I didn't expect that to make it through the profanity filter.
South American representation needs work
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Frontier has proven to be very creative to invent so many animals for a continent "which has no animals"Europe has now more habitat species than South America
In any case, I'm confident that South America will also get the opportunity to grow
In my opinion Europe now only needs the Wild Boar and perhaps the Wolverine to be more or less completed. Especially the Wild Boar would be nice as it is essential for a true Wildpark. Sure, a chamois or a roe deer would be nice but I think there are other species which seem more essential for a Zoo game to me. Hopefully South America get a bunch of New animals soon. Not that I really care on any Continental distribution. Really, this does not care to much for me. But there are so many special animals (and perhaps not so special like Spectacled Bear or Ocelot) I would like to See in the game for this continent.Frontier has proven to be very creative to invent so many animals for a continent "which has no animals"
In any case, I'm confident that South America will also get the opportunity to grow
Lol I noticed this as wellEurope has now more habitat species than South America
I have been thinking about how the South America map could be filled up more - these would be among my top choices for habitat animals, each representing a different region of South America.
1. Black-rumped agouti - Small rodent, suitable for tropical mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Caatinga ecoregion.
2. Patagonian mara - Medium-sized rodent, suitable for grassland mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Patagonian Steppe ecoregion.
3. Venezuelan red howler monkey - A large New World monkey, suitable for tropical mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Guiana Shield ecoregion.
4. Chacoan peccary - A medium-sized ungulate suitable for arid and grassland habitats; represents the Chaco ecoregion.
5. Maned wolf - A large carnivore suitable for grassland habitats; represents the Cerrado ecoregion.
6. Spectacled bear - A large carnivore suitable for mountainous habitats; represents the Andean Mountains.
7. Grey-winged trumpeter - A mid-sized bird, suitable for tropical mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Amazonian ecoregion.
1. Black-rumped agouti - Small rodent, suitable for tropical mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Caatinga ecoregion.
2. Patagonian mara - Medium-sized rodent, suitable for grassland mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Patagonian Steppe ecoregion.
3. Venezuelan red howler monkey - A large New World monkey, suitable for tropical mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Guiana Shield ecoregion.
4. Chacoan peccary - A medium-sized ungulate suitable for arid and grassland habitats; represents the Chaco ecoregion.
5. Maned wolf - A large carnivore suitable for grassland habitats; represents the Cerrado ecoregion.
6. Spectacled bear - A large carnivore suitable for mountainous habitats; represents the Andean Mountains.
7. Grey-winged trumpeter - A mid-sized bird, suitable for tropical mixed and walkthrough habitats; represents the Amazonian ecoregion.
Great choices but no Coati in South America?
I would rather have two primates than two rodents.
South America just needs two animal packs
Given that the cougar is also found in SA, and SA areas in zoos often aren't that heavy on big carnivore species, I would find 2 more carnivores out of 7 new species a bit much.
Birds and monkeys should be among the best-represented groups in a SA roster IMO, and otherwise, there should be room for some of the more unique creatures of this continent. So I would swap either the maned wolf or the bear for another bird or monkey or maybe an armadillo or similar.
Honestly to me that's sort of like the whole, "crested porcupine is a European animal" thing. Yeah, it technically is, but nobody associates it with that. Just so with the cougar - it's technically a South American animal, being that it lives in South America, but it is firmly associated with North America by most people. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find South American cougars in a major zoo.
Most cougars I have seen in zoos or know of in European zoos have been in smaller places, that haven't been very themed around continents. And most cougars on zootierliste are of no specific subspecies. So in Europe, it doesn't matter much where they are from. If you go to zoos in NA, yes then they are probably seen as a native species, but that is probably also the case if you go to zoos in SA.
And given how big their range is in SA, I don't think we should just ignore it, just because people tend to forget about it.
Acknowledging association is not the same as ignoring fact. Yes, the cougar has an extensive range in South America, that is a fact. If you ask a layman what continent comes to mind when they see a cougar, though, they aren't going to say 'South America'.
I don't see why a single species shouldn't be able to represent more than one continent.
I think there is a good chance a good amount of people just wouldn't know where it is from unless they themselves live within their range.
The past year there have been a lot of ''puma sightings'' in my region of Denmark, experts have to go out again and again and explain why a wild puma migrating into Denmark is impossible unless it is an escaped captive animal. A lot of people don't seem to get it. Puma/Cougar seems to be used by some for an undefined cat-like animal.
So no, people might not say South America, but I am not sure most of them would say North America either unless they are American
I think there’s a big different between the two. Only a small proportion of the crested porcupine’s distribution is in Europe, and it likely did not colonise the region without human assistance (probably being introduced to Italy around 1,500 years ago and only recently expanding in range). Cougars however have around half of their distribution in South America, occur over a larger area and a greater variety of habitats than the jaguar, and are also found there naturally of course. For me at least I’ve also come to associate them as much with Patagonia and the Andes as North America, in part due to several recent nature documentaries depicting them hunting guanacos.
Yea because of the documentaries of them in the Andes I view them as a pan American animal
Maybe for people in the northern hemisphere. I'm from Argentina, and pumas are a common and well known predatory animal here and associated with the mountains and grasslands. And for the population of SA that lives in the Andes region i would say is the same thing. So basically half of SA (Andes, Pampas, Patagonia) asociates the puma with our region. I will even go as far as to say that most people here don't even know that pumas have a range that extends all across the american continent up to NA; they consider it a SA animal.
I think it has something to do with the many names.
When people address it in SA they use Puma
In NA they use cougar or mountain lion (PZ chooses cougar)
The animal of many names strikes again
When people address it in SA they use Puma
In NA they use cougar or mountain lion (PZ chooses cougar)
The animal of many names strikes again
Yes and also people usually thinks rainforest when they think SA, so jaguars are the predator that comes to mind, but pumas are more widespread and have a larger population than jaguars (both occur in my country but jaguars are rare, while pumas are common... i imagine the opposite happens in Brasil)
I am not sure if that has too much to do with the lot of names. In Germany we normally just say Puma to it (Mountain Lion is perhaps also a more rare used word for it) and me and I think most of German people associate the Puma mostly with North America. In the same way also the Jaguar could be treated which normally ist associated with South America but has a range far into NA (with even some rare sighting in the very South of the USA in the last years).
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