Horizons SRV uncontrollable; keyboard bindings wiped out, entire ship uncontrollable, total DISASTER.

[x76]

Chronologically: I accepted a mission that required an SRV, so I acquired a vehicle bay and a Scarab, found the planet, set down a few kilometers away only to discover the SRV was uncontrollable -- steering, acceleration, et cetera. Complete chaos. Long story short, I crawled back to the ship with a few minutes of oxygen left, trying to figure out how to get the SRV and myself back on board. I could see the glowing bay area, but could not get on the ship. BOOM apparently a lack of oxygen causes the SRV to explode. Very dramatic.

Does the SRV have to be so insanely difficult to control?

So I'm miraculously back on my ship, in space, when I discover that my frantic re-mapping and re-binding of my controls in an effort to control the SRV has resulted in the DECIMATION of my existing bindings. Total idc*2nnd009dgw9u298g (gibberish subbed for those delicate snowflakes). Major clusterthrust. The game is unplayable. So I limp back to the closest base, only to be set upon by the usual interdictors, manage to crash land on a pad, fiddle with the bindings/options/controls OVER AND OVER again only to find that I cannot control the simplest of things, such as bringing up control menus and being able to navigate between them, you know, ULTRA basic controls. The game is unplayable at this point.

I have an "Xtreme 3D" joystick. What can I do? I tried restoring my existing bindings and that seemed to make matters worse. How is this game supposed to be played when your bindings just drop into a manure pile like this?! The        g wheels came off.

This could only be worse if the on-screen language suddenly changed to Bulgarian or Swahili. So that was about four hours of frustration yesterday on a 95F degree day. Not exactly my finest hour(s) with ED:H.

Any suggestions? "Learn Swahili" would not be considered constructive.

 

[D.G.Cerberus]

Chronologically: I accepted a mission that required an SRV, so I acquired a vehicle bay and a Scarab, found the planet, set down a few kilometers away only to discover the SRV was uncontrollable -- steering, acceleration, et cetera. Complete chaos. Long story short, I crawled back to the ship with a few minutes of oxygen left, trying to figure out how to get the SRV and myself back on board. I could see the glowing bay area, but could not get on the ship. BOOM apparently a lack of oxygen causes the SRV to explode. Very dramatic.

Does the SRV have to be so insanely difficult to control?

So I'm miraculously back on my ship, in space, when I discover that my frantic re-mapping and re-binding of my controls in an effort to control the SRV has resulted in the DECIMATION of my existing bindings. Total idc*2nnd009dgw9u298g (gibberish subbed for those delicate snowflakes). Major clusterthrust. The game is unplayable. So I limp back to the closest base, only to be set upon by the usual interdictors, manage to crash land on a pad, fiddle with the bindings/options/controls OVER AND OVER again only to find that I cannot control the simplest of things, such as bringing up control menus and being able to navigate between them, you know, ULTRA basic controls. The game is unplayable at this point.

I have an "Xtreme 3D" joystick. What can I do? I tried restoring my existing bindings and that seemed to make matters worse. How is this game supposed to be played when your bindings just drop into a manure pile like this?! The g wheels came off.

This could only be worse if the on-screen language suddenly changed to Bulgarian or Swahili. So that was about four hours of frustration yesterday on a 95F degree day. Not exactly my finest hour(s) with ED:H.

Any suggestions? "Learn Swahili" would not be considered constructive.

Wow!
First off, try this and find out what your bindings are actually doing.
https://www.mcdee.net/elite/

In parallel, go to control options and find out what has gone on!

Ensure latest drivers etc all downloaded, Google those Joystick settings for Elite Dangerous (Sorry, I am not familiar with it) and post results here. We can then help further.
Good luck

Edit: I meant, once you have the bindings via the Mcdee site, FIX the issues in control options if possible! I also like to have a secondary command for most controls - not always clear that there is an alternate column for many of the controls, but I always bind them to keyboard presses/ combos so I can VA them.

PPS: SRV can be separately bound in controls too......

 

[Chris Simon]

As said above - SRV has separate control schemes.

If you managed to bork your bindings, and have Windows set to automatic backup, you can go to:
C:\Users\ your username \AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings

Right-click the folder and choose "Previous versions" tab and roll back a couple of days to the point you know the bindings were fine.

 

[Eloy]

Really? Apparently most ôther players can handle the SRV because ... no other complaints.
Did you even try to read the manual, search the forum or youtube or invest some minutes on the config settings?

 

[x76]

Really? Apparently most ôther players can handle the SRV because ... no other complaints.
Did you even try to read the manual, search the forum or youtube or invest some minutes on the config settings?

Not a        g word. How hard could it be? I can drive in meatspace. No dice. By the time I realized how badly chiffoned I was, I watched videos and read up on the controls which lead to the ultra-borkage of my existing bindings, which I'm still trying to piece back together.

If you purchase a car, you expect it to function on some basic level WITHOUT having to assemble every bit of it and define the range of motion or speed or steering. As in "depress the throttle and move forward". Move joystick left, vehicle moves left. NOT THE CASE. It was like some insane 1970s home computer project using nothing but DIP switches to enter code. At the very least it should have a Mode control scheme. Not an undergrad physics problem.

 

[Chris Simon]

Not a        g word. How hard could it be? I can drive in meatspace. No dice. By the time I realized how badly chiffoned I was, I watched videos and read up on the controls which lead to the ultra-borkage of my existing bindings, which I'm still trying to piece back together.

If you purchase a car, you expect it to function on some basic level WITHOUT having to assemble every bit of it and define the range of motion or speed or steering. As in "depress the throttle and move forward". Move joystick left, vehicle moves left. NOT THE CASE. It was like some insane 1970s home computer project using nothing but DIP switches to enter code. At the very least it should have a Mode control scheme. Not an undergrad physics problem.

It's not a real car. It's a virtual, game car.
There is a bunch of zeroes and ones between you and the car. You have to at least try and setup some sort of interface between your hands and the wheels on the screen.

 

[Sevenperry]

I could see the glowing bay area, but could not get on the ship. BOOM apparently a lack of oxygen causes the SRV to explode. Very dramatic.

Does the SRV have to be so insanely difficult to control?

So I'm miraculously back on my ship, in space, when I discover that my frantic re-mapping and re-binding of my controls in an effort to control the SRV has resulted in the DECIMATION of my existing bindings.The game is unplayable at this point.

I have an "Xtreme 3D" joystick. What can I do? I tried restoring my existing bindings and that seemed to make matters worse.
This could only be worse if the on-screen language suddenly changed to Bulgarian or Swahili. So that was about four hours of frustration yesterday on a 95F degree day. Not exactly my finest hour(s) with ED:H.

Any suggestions? "Learn Swahili" would not be considered constructive.

Can't really help you, except to say I feel your pain. Last week I tried to change one setting and found my entire bindings suddenly absent, as if overwritten and then put in an envelope and sent a way to an obscure location. I fortunately had an old bindings file from previous horizons in another place.

This is indeed frustrating, as indeed was loading the non horizons version to exit the planet, only to be blown up by some player near a space station, who found my damaged ship straight after an NPC battle had done me serious damage, ah well bye bye exploration data.

I feel your pain, hope the other posters helped more than I. You can sort it I'm sure however the time it takes is frustrating though.

 

[Tuub t Tute]

The same "between the legs" panel you accessed to launch the SRV is the one you access to "board ship". You need to be right under the cargo space which can require a bit of fidgeting to line up correctly.

 

[PiggyPiggyPig]

Chronologically: I accepted a mission that required an SRV, so I acquired a vehicle bay and a Scarab, found the planet, set down a few kilometers away only to discover the SRV was uncontrollable -- steering, acceleration, et cetera. Complete chaos. Long story short, I crawled back to the ship with a few minutes of oxygen left, trying to figure out how to get the SRV and myself back on board. I could see the glowing bay area, but could not get on the ship. BOOM apparently a lack of oxygen causes the SRV to explode. Very dramatic.

Does the SRV have to be so insanely difficult to control?

So I'm miraculously back on my ship, in space, when I discover that my frantic re-mapping and re-binding of my controls in an effort to control the SRV has resulted in the DECIMATION of my existing bindings. Total idc*2nnd009dgw9u298g (gibberish subbed for those delicate snowflakes). Major clusterthrust. The game is unplayable. So I limp back to the closest base, only to be set upon by the usual interdictors, manage to crash land on a pad, fiddle with the bindings/options/controls OVER AND OVER again only to find that I cannot control the simplest of things, such as bringing up control menus and being able to navigate between them, you know, ULTRA basic controls. The game is unplayable at this point.

I have an "Xtreme 3D" joystick. What can I do? I tried restoring my existing bindings and that seemed to make matters worse. How is this game supposed to be played when your bindings just drop into a manure pile like this?! The g wheels came off.

This could only be worse if the on-screen language suddenly changed to Bulgarian or Swahili. So that was about four hours of frustration yesterday on a 95F degree day. Not exactly my finest hour(s) with ED:H.

Any suggestions? "Learn Swahili" would not be considered constructive.

I had some trouble with my keyboard yesterday after a Windows 10 update, thankfully I wasn't playing ED. Seems to not have reoccurred.

 

[Moonax IRL]

Chronologically: I accepted a mission that required an SRV, so I acquired a vehicle bay and a Scarab, found the planet, set down a few kilometers away only to discover the SRV was uncontrollable -- steering, acceleration, et cetera. Complete chaos. Long story short, I crawled back to the ship with a few minutes of oxygen left, trying to figure out how to get the SRV and myself back on board. I could see the glowing bay area, but could not get on the ship. BOOM apparently a lack of oxygen causes the SRV to explode. Very dramatic.

Does the SRV have to be so insanely difficult to control?

So I'm miraculously back on my ship, in space, when I discover that my frantic re-mapping and re-binding of my controls in an effort to control the SRV has resulted in the DECIMATION of my existing bindings. Total idc*2nnd009dgw9u298g (gibberish subbed for those delicate snowflakes). Major clusterthrust. The game is unplayable. So I limp back to the closest base, only to be set upon by the usual interdictors, manage to crash land on a pad, fiddle with the bindings/options/controls OVER AND OVER again only to find that I cannot control the simplest of things, such as bringing up control menus and being able to navigate between them, you know, ULTRA basic controls. The game is unplayable at this point.

I have an "Xtreme 3D" joystick. What can I do? I tried restoring my existing bindings and that seemed to make matters worse. How is this game supposed to be played when your bindings just drop into a manure pile like this?! The g wheels came off.

This could only be worse if the on-screen language suddenly changed to Bulgarian or Swahili. So that was about four hours of frustration yesterday on a 95F degree day. Not exactly my finest hour(s) with ED:H.

Any suggestions? "Learn Swahili" would not be considered constructive.

Xbox controller makes the SRV easy to drive and when you have proper bindings it's an excellent vehicle to drive. If you can cut and paste the srv controls from the xbox default bindings and incorporate them into your hotas bindings then your sorted. Same trick for the galaxy map controls.

 

[verminstar]

I use keyboard and mouse combo and was doin donuts on moons on my second day in the game...yay go me. Seriously though, those donuts were a bit all over the place and I heartily recommend remapping the keys, including the often forgotten handbrake which is very useful for controlling those donuts. A good understanding of how to remap mouse keys is useful at this point as I find that the handbrake is more of a priority than the fire key which I move to elsewhere...everyone is different but any driver can tell ye how important a handbrake is, especially off road.

Drive assist on and off also has a very dramatic effect based on what yer actually trying to do and where...try navigating near sheer walls and mountains that look like stalactites and then ye get to call it insanely difficult to control...it's really not...not after some initial cursing and swearing and adapting of keys and mouse.

I heartily recommend a gaming mouse if ye can afford one btw...I'm biased though because I'm weird...I actually prefer the keyboard mouse combo to a stick. Heard a funny thing about players getting seasick in VR too...made me chuckle cos I get seasick just looking at the screen sometimes and I still love it. Ironically, I'm rubbish at just about everything else in this game...I sometimes logout in the SRV...that's how much I love it.

It's not impossible to get to grips with to the point where ye can navigate around just about any terrain, both in low and high gravity planets. It is damned tricky learning how to turn driver assist on and off and using the thrusters and mouselook at the same time, but it can be done. Sorta done...carry 2 SRV just to make sure ^^

 

[x76]

Thanks to all for the information.

What I've found is that when I fire up ED:H I may or may not have the bindings I expect, especially on the joystick, but then (this is the weird part) after fifteen or twenty minutes or so, they'll suddenly become active, not due to any fussing on my part.

I've got things more or less put back together. I do have a few stupid questions:

1. On the right hand panel I can choose items going to the right, but not to the left. Which binding controls this?
2. I used to bring up the left hand panel (Nav, etc) with joystick top hat to the left and key "A", but no more.

Thanks again!

 

[Chris Simon]

Thanks to all for the information.

What I've found is that when I fire up ED:H I may or may not have the bindings I expect, especially on the joystick, but then (this is the weird part) after fifteen or twenty minutes or so, they'll suddenly become active, not due to any fussing on my part.

The binding files are stored on the system disk. Are you sure you are running the Elite with the administrator rights, so it can access and change files there.
(Just guessing, obviously. Some weird problems you have.)

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

Thanks to all for the information.

What I've found is that when I fire up ED:H I may or may not have the bindings I expect, especially on the joystick, but then (this is the weird part) after fifteen or twenty minutes or so, they'll suddenly become active, not due to any fussing on my part.

I've got things more or less put back together. I do have a few stupid questions:

1. On the right hand panel I can choose items going to the right, but not to the left. Which binding controls this?
2. I used to bring up the left hand panel (Nav, etc) with joystick top hat to the left and key "A", but no more.

Thanks again!

The bindings are linked to the connected controller. It seems, that your controller isnt properly recognized. Maybe check in that direction... Some joysticks, like the X-55, are very power hungry and suffer from ghost inputs and other problems, when they are not properly powered. Usually that happens, when the controller is plugged to an un- or insufficiently powerd USB hub.