You will be able to buy it for 5 million aUEC, no need of real money.Not many ship designs in SC catch my attention but dang this thing looks kind of awesome. Shame its 700$ or so
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Viajero
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No, that has nothing to do with the post you responded to. The "ED has issues ergo SC good" rhetoric has been happening since day one, much much earlier than EDO. The "logic" of the argument hasn´t changed a bit since then.
As for the mAsSiVe ED player exodus to SC you seem to alude to, to be fair outside the anecdotal testimonies you can find here or on reddit etc there does not seem to be many figures or metrics that support it including SC´s own funding and citizen number trackers for the past 3 months.
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It’s funny checking back on that 2018 vid. They’ve been focusing on the day-to-day quality of life of SC so hard from that point.
While simultaneously reducing the launch criteria down to some bare tech bones. (Object state persistence, dynamic NPC universe reacting to player actions, Server Meshing allowing large player numbers). With the advertised gameplay features & content somehow pushed into a post-launch realm.
Nearly 3 years later, and some of the QoL is in, but the key tech pillars are still either decidedly wobbly or absent entirely. The fantastical features doubly so. It is still currently the 'theme park' that Chris doesn’t want it to be.
But at least the theme park doors are open, and tickets are on sale I guess. I’m sure many 'alpha as a service' adventures await
A mess. And now they are doubly disappointed.
Well it might not be an issue to some it's very normal that it can be to others. So similar to what is happening in this side. Like Roberts promised things also Braben did. Clearly talking about a 10 year plan and at least 1 BIG update every year or two. So it shouldn't be unreasonable that some CMDR's expected more by now or also feel they haven't gotten their moneys worth yet. Since all the SC updates and features are included in the basic package it can be considered also a kind of LEP, which afaik is cheaper than LEP. Frontier also have thrown several dates around that missed, nothing odd in that, specially in the crowdfunded development scenario.
Well that's because those are non issues to point out since they could very well be applied to Frontier and ED Odyssey. In fact, they could be very well applied to multiple games and companies. It's only the need to parade it and make it seem like a special event that's the oddity.Lol, you just deleted a list from that quote which is entirely demonstrable:
Fancy a little example of the last one?
- It’s a perpetual alpha. (Please see the last 8 years.)
- Prone to misleading roadmaps. (Please see 3.14 for the most recent examples.)
- Compromised by fundamental technical travails under its shiny hood. (Please see 3.14
- With a habit of drawing money out of players for content which doesn’t exist yet.
Although I could cite extensive evidence for all of those points until the cows come home
Because those claims, my dear LTNTDan, are true…
You really are peak Star Citizen friend. Extolling the game, and decrying its critics, without ever having played it. Amazing
Clearly ED has let you down so hard that SC stars now twinkle and delight around your head…
Get your kit, play the game, have your fun. But if you could stop burbling bizarre nonsense in the interim that would be wonderful…
Won’t hold my breath.
Have you forgotten that we are still missing interiors in all our ships? We don't even have damage states for anything besides the Conda after 7 years. How do you expect Frontier to implement EVA ship repairing without those for example?
Would that be peak some Elite: Odyssey copium? The case for double standards, glass houses and all.
So you find it unusual for someone to discuss about a game who hasn't played yet when that's what seemingly been happening in these threads for years?Wait, what? A maiden so fair and perfect that she has a loyal knight vehemently defend her honour without ever having met her. What a strange scenario.
Even stranger that it's not even a maiden, let alone a person at all, but a game in protracted alpha development
Does anyone know if there's a psychological explanation for this phenomenon? How very, very unusual.
Or is it "unusual" because it's not doubling down on bashing the game? Seems like it never really mattered that much before.
While I'm disappointed by how Frontier has progressed Elite's development I'm still reasonable enough to understand that things never go as planed, and while I'm looking forward to actually try sc for myself after watching Kate series and other CMDR's series, even if as just an escape to clear some Odyssey frustration. I can guarantee you won't be seeing me on the SC forums pushing some kind of deceitful negative narrative about the state of Elite for some obscure or vindictive reason.
Surely SC is able to stand on its own, cough, merits rather than have to be discussed as not as bad as something else, whatever that may be.
Good games are played by people passionately even if they are annoying or have issues. Games that don't have much going for them can only point at competitors and go "Hey look! They've done bad things too!"
SC is definitely an advert for how much good art 380M USD can get you. Pretty screenshots, for sure. Gameplay? Better get pledging cause apparently that 380M is no where near enough.
Good games are played by people passionately even if they are annoying or have issues. Games that don't have much going for them can only point at competitors and go "Hey look! They've done bad things too!"
SC is definitely an advert for how much good art 380M USD can get you. Pretty screenshots, for sure. Gameplay? Better get pledging cause apparently that 380M is no where near enough.
Can you point me someone claiming "ED has issues ergo SC good" outside of this thread ? Are you sure this rhetoric exist elsewhere ? For what I've seen of ED refugees testing/playing SC it's more "I enjoy this in SC and I wish I could have it in ED", nothing more.
I doubt anyone would go "I have this ship reclaim bug - why can't we have that in ED, too?"
Unpopular opinion: if Star Citizen was a full release it would have a way bigger playerbase.
Viajero
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Well, you just did (or allegedly those you described). I just pointed out this is not the first time it happens either in this thread or elsewhere. Happens constantly in one form or another. This has been happening well before EDO.
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Not really, because the gaming press could review it bugs and all.
Well I mean of it was relase-ready. With no bugs.
Not for very much long. People know a buggy mess when they see it. And they don't stick to it in general.
Like that's ever going to happen.
The thing I don't get with people changing from Elite Dangerous to Star Citizens is that they basicly run from one bugged game to another. Can anyone enlighten me?
Yes, it's like they actively seek out to play a bugged mess. Maybe they are all playtesters. Like Timid Kickbin.
And then watch that 5 million disappear when they do a wipe.
Backers learned to point at other games from CR himself. He's compared SC/SQ42 to so many games now its ridiculous.
What was the first instance?
Perhaps in 2014 when he said he would put SQ42 up against any AAA game out there. That one was classic. 7 years later and still no SQ42 to put up against any AAA game.
He talks a good game, shame he just has no clue how to deliver one.