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varonica said:
Yeah, senior gets thrown around a lot, but senior doesn't necessarily mean most capable, often people are senior because they know how to manage people who often are more skilled than they themselves are in certain areas, but who otherwise have no real skill with things like project management, time management, budget management and etc and it needs someone with those particular skills to manage the team. Of course I suspect this isn't what is happening at CIG given the decade of mismanagement we have seen, it appears that people get promoted regardless of their ability to manage anything at all!
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You can't run a scam and present only bloody rookies. You have to appear as employing staff that is qualified.
 

varonica

varonica
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You can't run a scam and present only bloody rookies. You have to appear as employing staff that is qualified.
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Senior Engine Programmer? Sounds qualified to me! You see the thing is you only need to "sound" qualified, plenty of people have pretended to be all sorts of things, Doctors even, once you get a high and mighty title you don't actually need to actually do anything, you just have to avoid being caught not doing anything!
 

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varonica said:
Senior Engine Programmer? Sounds qualified to me! You see the thing is you only need to "sound" qualified, plenty of people have pretended to be all sorts of things, Doctors even, once you get a high and mighty title you don't actually need to actually do anything, you just have to avoid being caught not doing anything!
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Exactly, have you noticed these bogus progress reports where these departments do all kinds of things that are pretty much nonsense?
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
sovapid said:
do you work in tech?
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I'm tech adjacent ;). (Work with our in-house devs when the team needs new tools / maintenance on old ones. We used ML like 7 years ago, catch up CIG ;))

sovapid said:
sr engineer isnt always really that high on the food chain.

when i was consulting, everyone was a senior engineer. 🤣
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Were lots of those Snrs in their early 20s though?

That's the thing with CIG...

VR Golgot said:
TLDR:
  • Half the Senior+ devs leaving CIG in 2023 had a tenure of < 2 years. [Average tenure: 10 months].
  • A quarter of those promoted to Senior+ level got their first job in gaming at CIG.
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And it's important because, as others have said, they're likely short on experience...

VR Golgot said:
I always think this whole 'green dev' theme is most telling for senior engineers too. It's common to hear tales of experienced engineers being gold dust precisely because they know how to structure code to avoid pitfalls and conflicts downstream as everything scales up. (Having run into various self-inflicted walls themselves, and dealt with the capricious scope switches of stakeholders, in prior projects etc).

As much as I'm not sure any dev could future-proof the code against Roberts-tier revisions, I can't imagine these student promotions are gonna fare any better...
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VR Golgot said:
I'm tech adjacent ;). (Work with our in-house devs when the team needs new tools / maintenance on old ones. We used ML like 7 years ago, catch up CIG ;))



Were lots of those Snrs in their early 20s though?

That's the thing with CIG...



And it's important because, as others have said, they're likely short on experience...
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Experience doesn't matter. The lead of department just has a nice report to present how well-staffed his department is now due to their competence.
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
Factabulous said:
Someone else posted it (unscripted take on the SQ42 promo) on Spectrum (finally). Not moved yet ...

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(and getting lots of love)
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Factabulous said:
.... and it's gone. Stuart was right not to bother posting it :D
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Agony_Aunt said:
Ooof, not even moved to concern or fan creations. Actually deleted.

Someone at CIG really didn't like it.

I wonder who...
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Ed02349

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No, a long, long ways off.

Might come out after Star Citizen is released.
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https://steamcommunity.com/app/494840/discussions/0/3955910653937681264/

I don't know if this is someone from here, but I've been seeing little jabs at Star Citizens in games that had nothing to do with Star Citizens a lot more regularly. It's a far cry from the days when everyone has to preface comments about Star Citizen with how much they've pledged.
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
Ed02349 said:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/494840/discussions/0/3955910653937681264/

I don't know if this is someone from here, but I've been seeing little jabs at Star Citizens in games that had nothing to do with Star Citizens a lot more regularly. It's a far cry from the days when everyone has to preface comments about Star Citizen with how much they've pledged.
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Definitely not me, no alt accounts on Steam or anything. I'm always Mole HD or plain old Mole on everything :)
 

sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
I do work in tech, and junior to senior in 3.5 years is unheard of, unless they are some sort of goddamn protegee.

Being senior isn't just about knowledge, its about experience. Its also about the ability to stand up to management who want to make idiotic decisions, which most young people don't have the stones to do.
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Actually it is not.

Principal or staff engineer. No way. Senior engineer, absolutely.
 

Viajero

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Viajero
Asp Explorer said:
I’m not sure how the reality of there being zero released CI-G products in 2023 can be seen as insulting.

There are zero released CI-G products, and old wobblechin still owes us two games.
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CIG has indeed released SC (in early access). Keep in mind there is no real distinction between early access and regular releases, other than the stated expected quality for the product. Let´s not confuse released with complete.
 
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