Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Mrrshal

Mrrshal
Firkrayt said:
Ah, yes, Bioware.
The Russians did it:

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Thing is, I never heard of anyone investing thousands of $$$ in Anthem... And even if someone did, he did that after he got the game.

P.S. to clarify, I meant 'after he got the released game'. Sorry if I was too vague.
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TiberiusDuval

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Viajero said:
Yeah. Just a cursory look at the rest of the videogame landscape as a whole it is obvious how much of an extreme outlier Star Citizen is in terms of its alpha duration world record (this is indeed never been done before).

Arguing SC Alpha is normal is everything but.

The graph is old (circa 2016) but it is funny to see how even the wildest and most hyperbolic projections at that time already considered 2021-2022 for SC worth plotting in the chart at the time (just for the pre-alpha/alpha!). Well it turns out those estimates were not as hiperbolic after all, and may even get pulverised actually.
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Even if we add in there Diablo 3.

Nevermind if we add cases like Daikatana, Duke Nukem FE, Godus, BGAE2 all clear cut cases of development hell, and not reasonable alphas.
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Half Life was certainly published game before 2004. I remember playing it with my Pentium 225MMX before 2000... Half Life 2 perhaps?
 

sovapid

sovapid
Viajero said:
I do not know any either.

And I am afraid that is precisely the point. The "but it´s alpha" explanation does not work very well to rationalize 10+ years of it precisely because there are no other alphas of 10+ years. You will also be hard press to find alphas of 8 or 9 years, probably even less.

But if "it´s alpha" can not properly explain the 10+ years, what can then? Well, some suggest development hell can.
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Arguably development started around 10 years ago, but your contention is that the "Alpha" started the same day development started?

That is odd. What other games were in "Alpha" at the same time the first line of code was written?

Don't think it is Alpha until there is something people are downloading and playing/testing.

For SC you gonna say Alpha started when the Hanger Module came out? Arena Commander? The first release of the PU?
 

MTBFritz

MTBFritz
Mrrshal said:
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hint: you need to download it to a SSD mate.....looks like the fault is on your side what can i say? Works perfectly and has always worked perfectly for me ^^
 

Viajero

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Viajero
sovapid said:
Arguably development started around 10 years ago, but your contention is that the "Alpha" started the same day development started?

That is odd. What other games were in "Alpha" at the same time the first line of code was written?

Don't think it is Alpha until there is something people are downloading and playing/testing.

For SC you gonna say Alpha started when the Hanger Module came out? Arena Commander? The first release of the PU?
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Call it conceptual, pre alpha, alpha whatever, add them all together. Internal or public. Anything before an eventual beta, which is where SC still seems to be at the moment, and will probably be for quite a while. It does not really make much of a difference. SC´s is still wildly abnormal.
 
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Viajero said:
Call it predev, pre alpha, alpha whatever, or all together if you wish. Anything before an eventual beta. Internal or public. It does not really make much of a difference.
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At the end of the day if people can discount CIG's start of development based on when they implemented certain parts, you can say the same about any game. Duke Nukem didn't take so long because they had to redo everything anyway and they switched engines and they changed teams and direction (no idea if any of this is true, just making the point).

If backers can say "development only really started in 20XX" then i don't see why other projects can't say the same.
 

ECity

ECity
sovapid said:
In that case odyssey is in alpha! How ya'll liking it? Can you post some links to peoples thoughts on it in the forums?
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Odyssey pre-sales started a little over two months ago.

Games in development that have not taken any customer money yet, don't count the same as pre-sales and Kickstarter projects (like Odyssey and Star Citizen).
 

Pug

Pug
sovapid said:
In that case odyssey is in alpha! How ya'll liking it? Can you post some links to peoples thoughts on it in the forums?
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I think ED is still in Beta as there are a few bugs relating to Game play, BGS and RNG issues to sort.
What's in an designation?
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Pug

Pug
Viajero said:
Call it conceptual, pre alpha, alpha whatever, add them all together. Internal or public. Anything before an eventual beta, which is where SC still seems to be at the moment, and will probably be for quite a while. It does not really make much of a difference. SC´s is still wildly abnormal.
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It is abnormal in relation to anything that has went before, at least they are a first in something :) :(

I do still find it odd that a moderator is jumping on the punishment train.

I thought moderators - moderated?
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Viajero

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Viajero
Pug said:
It is abnormal in relation to anything that has went before, at least they are a first in something :) :(

I do still find it it odd that a moderator is jumping on the punishment train.

I thought moderators - moderated?
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