I realise there is little new to talk about (So what's new, eh?)... but if we keep getting dragged into comparing SC with a successful commercially released product, someone might get upset...
Star Citizen Thread v6
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Perhaps we should throw NMS into the mix?
Released with a couple of delays. Updated three times now, each adding significant new gameplay. Has a dreadful flight model. Seamless station to surface gameplay. A storyline, base building, buggies, FPS elements, space legs, trading, mining, multiple ship ownership, pretty rubbish space combat, impressive art-house graphical styling, superb music, free play and ironman options, engineering, nascent multiplayer, way more than a couple of moons round a single star, and an orrery integrated into their star map.
All done by a tiny team working out of very modest premises in Guildford.
I am helping here, right...?
Surely compared to this utter shambles, SC looks ever more the gleaming beacon of ultimate success and fidelity that we dull nay sayers are clearly too silly to comprehend. Yes?
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Hallo Games keep updating and I even might buy their game. Dint jump on the hype.
Just like with SC.
Comparing projects is always a good idea, however it must be comparable.
Mass Effect Andromeda was also a project with many issues and road blocks, internal discussions, arguments and lot of problems in general.
They managed to get a product out, it was not the original vision, and we all know the issues, most corrected now, by launch.
This is directly comparable, because the engine used for ME:A was also not ready for that type of game. However the game was released and it's now playable.
The story is interresting, especially if you also follow the SC train wreck project.
Shows the importance of project management. Mass Effect had this in spades, being a big publisher.
With the amount of funding and time spent, a fully functioning game could easily have been released by now. Even with missing functionality to be added with future updates.
SC seems to always want to add something extra, or push the boat out there just a bit further. Or, oh wouldn't this be awesome, let's invent a whole new technology to do this and re-invent the wheel.
To an outsider, the whole thing is mind boggling.
I already hit 40 while waiting.
In my case that would take some real groundbreaking software engineering.
Viajero
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This depiction of the subject is simply disingenuous I am afraid, primarily because it fully ignores the previous ocasions (plural) all the way to end of 2015 (closing on 100 million, i.e. well past stretch goals total amount of 65 million) where CR had already confirmed that both SC and SQ42 were fully funded and CIG had enough reserves to complete the whole thing. No caveats were made.
The need now to issue the caveat for SQ42 to fund SC should pledges stopped is a direct contradiction with those original statements (issued over a cash reserve margin of already at least 35-40 million over stretch goals) and it therefore shows not only a significant weakening in CIG finances but also the formal appearance of a tangible and explicit risk of non delivery, that were hitherto nonexistent.
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40 decades perhaps.
dayrth
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I was in my 40s when development started. I'm not any more
Don't worry, maybe we get to play it in our deathbeds.
Imagine the joy, followed by utter disappointment.
In my next reincarnation perhaps, as I've just retired at 65. I was a mere youngster of 60 when I backed.
Which is curious since the SC faithful keep saying the game's only been in development for about 2 years. I'm sure glad I got my refund a couple of years ago, before development even started
A quote from my original refund letter sums up my experience of SC -
And in the 2 years since then things have only got worse :O
This has been widely commented on before, but this is not how professionals manage any large and complex project.
Such projects require, very broadly, these steps: scope, specify, design (in the process you set the designs in stone), plan, cost, budget, execute, and then continual monitoring, reporting and review of actuals vs estimates - time, money and progress - against the plan.
This is how professionals run a large project - and certainly any sizeable IT project - assuming the project is actually supposed to succeed.
I could go into proper risk and contingency management, but I'd bore myself, and similarly with change management, such as - CR, CRB, CAB, DRB, DAB, CN, CC, DRM (aka DM)... ...oh god I've started... ...yup... it turns out that Prince and ITIL really aren't fit topics for everyday conversation...
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I, personally, find the Spectrum forums rather confusing.
I'm already pushing 70 this Sept so I honestly don't know if I'll be here when it hits the shelf. 40 to 70 ... I seriously doubt it.
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Well we will have to wait till Citizencon for the powerpoint.
First-timer SC video, beware tho, this guy is known for his strong language (also the reason why I have him subbed
very sweary video removed
My personal favorite....."obviously this is a game with a lot of trash in it" ^^
Pretty entertaining! Also, "love" the comments, its gonna fill up with toxic fanboys soon. Seriously, I dont even mention to ppl I know that I`m a backer coz they look at me funny....
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