I thought the Star Wars thing was just a funny meme thing, but you guys really took it and ran with it!
it beats threads about how fdev isn't telling us anything or that it might be in the middle of a buyout and doom and the lack of content etc etc.
debating the merits of a fictional government in a laughably simplistic universe can easily be more engaging than just beating dead horses. Unless you're a bronie
That was implicit in the statement. Anything above a certain, fairly modest, level is surplus that I am willing to sacrifice if I think it will make my world a better place to exist in.
obviously that isn't shared by the masses in star wars universe, because the empire is recreated over and over thru it's history. and it's not a rogue government. It's an evolution of a shared desire among thousands of member states.
I consider the imposition of authority to be a bad thing, in and of itself. Something to be done only in extremis, and only to the minimum degree and magnitude required to prevent a greater problem, and something has to be pretty goddamned bad for me to think it's worse than sticking my nose into someone else's business.
everyone is all about their freedom and keeping the government out of it until a bigger guy comes and tries taking your stuff and/or ruining your way of life. Then it's more authority to an entity even bigger than them so that everyone plays nice with eachother.
You can venture out and try being mostly alone, but anywhere where your concentration of people gets to be bigger than what you find in a small town, you start to need police, lawyers, the empire ...to make sure everyone can coexist so every day you're alive isn't a potential last day you're alive and you're not having to protect your way of life constantly with the threat of violence.
the empire isn't inherently bad because of it's authority and power and control. It was bad because it was being run by a religious zealot bent on genocide and power. But it would have had just as much power and authority and control if it had been run by it's less sith-y managers and would have avoided much of the evil as witnessed by the unwilling member states shown in the movies.
But even with that destruction and devastation, the empire could have come back from that still overall good if it hadn't been bankrupted and fragmented by the actions of a mad leader. We never get to see much of the actually populated worlds where the empire was supported. The hundreds if not thousands of planets that voted it into existence. We dont see what their situation is like without that authority, and how quickly that vacuum of power is sucked up by uncertain/unknown people or organizations with their own motives and connections to who knows what. But if there's so much criminal interest and murder invested in a sand pit like tatooine, the potential for problems and the need for a strong authority is going to be felt greater by magnitudes in densely populated city planets and the like.
even what we see of the rebel alliance trying to bring order to their territory is impotent with this insufficient numbers and inability to enforce their authority. The need for security and order among different species and among hundreds of billions of sentients ...is valued as a greater good than what you give up in freedom ...because that freedom is what gets you war lords and the mafia having fights and releasing monsters in the streets destroying your home and business and killing your friends any day of the week without recourse. The empire controlled and stopped that (where they were in power) and the people were better off.
so long as the galaxy tries living together ..the empire is inevitable ... not as an evil bad entity. But because it's the minimal degree solution for the quality of life most of the population desires and gets to experience. and as long as that number of people is greater than the number it negatively impacts...it's not evil. And certainly not as evil as one that is negatively impacting more than it benefits,...like some rogue state.
The jedi and sith orders have both played puppeteer to their own ends at the expense of millions of lives (the jedi's hands are not clean either). Their existence is more of an evil than what the empire was. Their orders benefit extremely few people and yet they orchestrated entire wars. Their negatives far outweigh their positives. The Jedi and the Sith should be treated as hostile ...borderline terrorist organizations that should be dismantled and eliminated. Way more than the empire.
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