Yes yes, we all know you hate Arena/CQC. But we both know that steam stats mean absolute jack and yet you keep dragging them out to prove what exactly? That everyone should hate it as much as you do? Tell me again what your point is here? Or better yet, don't.
It's the frst time I've ever posted a Steam stat like this I believe... but don't let that slow you down now you're seemingly on a
I will anyway... I thought the screen was quite funny... The thought of a single player in the whole world, all alone in a lobby
ps: Maybe lighten up a bit?
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Interesting, in the past 30 days, I have played over a thousand Deathmatchs often with the full complement of eight players and I can not think of a day I was not able to match at one time or another. If my connection timed out I just tried later. But I don't use steam.
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Either shows how unreliable those Steam figures are, how many people are playing through ED's CQC instead of ED Arena, or just how incredibly unlucky that chap was
I beg to differ...
Steam stats in fact quite reliable measurement of the trend. Frontier's attempt to revive CQC by spinning it off into a stand-alone game did not provide enough players. Even assuming that there are 3x more players from Xbox than Steam, there are only a dozen online players present on average and total ownership is perhaps 20K users...
And the trend is pretty clear - less and less players online at any given moment while steadily increasing ownership. Plus decreasing mean/median playtimes (1.4 hours average over past week).
The game is imploding (soon there will be no players at all, probably in the next month or so)
Frontier probably knew about the "downhill trend" for quite a while and gave up on CQC some time near the end of 2015..
There has been no significant maintenance / bug fixing for a while and "standalone game" spin off is just an effort to recover as much money as they can from the failed project..
That is my opinion.
And for the record:
- I like CQC (as a very promising "alpha" of a game)
- I work in the game industry (game analytics)
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Interesting, I just finished about an hours worth of play in Arena. Every match was full... during market prime time, just not seeing interest waning. I am seeing it actually increase.
Steam stats for Arena show a subsample of a subsample: people who are playing just Arena instead of the main E client, and *also* are using the Steam version at all. Seems necessarily difficult to generalize that number especially when we don't know the proportions of either subsample.
As far as "no significant maintenance for a while" that's true for the rest of Elite as well. CQC has not been specially neglected.
client, and *also* are using the Steam version at all. Seems necessarily difficult to generalize that number especially when we don't know the proportions of either subsample.As far as "no significant maintenance for a while" that's true for the rest of Elite as well. CQC has not been specially neglected.
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Steam stats for Arena show a subsample of a subsample: people who are playing just Arena instead of the main E
As far as "no significant maintenance for a while" that's true for the rest of Elite as well. CQC has not been specially neglected.
Not really. It is just a pool of users (different acquisition campaign) They should be fairly similar to the rest of the users (similar equipment, age, etc) and there are enough of them to make statistical conclusions.
As I said before both "players online" and median/mean playtime are on a sustained downtrend. Unless you have a strong argument why "steam users" are substantially different from the rest of the humans, we can extrapolate...
BTW if you are curious, here is "the good" view of thge stats: https://steamdb.info/app/443080/graphs/
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Fair enough. It's your area of expertise, and although I may be unwilling to draw conclusions I'm sure you can do so more confidently.
Nice chart, two 10 days periods. Thank you, confirms what I thought, upward ownership. I look forward to seeing your 26 week and 52 week comparisons and hearing the analysis then. So we can we can extrapolate further...
o7
Sad, when you take one of the best space games of all time and you dumb it down for marketing just to get a little bit more money and yet it all fails.
Lol, I just exited the main game to take a look, 52 seconds to get into a team death match full of players. Exit out, 29 seconds to join a full deathmatch.. Doesn't seem too bad to me, I don't use steam. Don't think I've ever had an issue finding full lobby's since they sorted it with the last mini update. Anyway, back to exploring Ariel..
I don't know why people feel the need to defend/bash Arena, devs have the true numbers, bashing just comes across as childish. It's an absolute frikin blast if you enjoy fast dogfighting, take it or leave it.
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Interesting, I find it not to be "dumbed down" at all for a space combat sim. Quite the contrary, I found in Arena I had to constantly evolve my tactics in some matches just to stay alive long enough to make a kill and survive. In the main game the combat there is just as tough. Why, just the other day I made the mistake of challenging a wing of three sidewinders "wanted" for piracy and I very quickly learned what it means to be bracketed in "three-way" by sidewinders armed with rail guns. The exploration and trade elements of the main game are very comprehensive, especially when the power play elements of undermining a local stations economy is taking into consideration as are the pre flight plotting considerations for a long journey to the galactic center. Watching Mars rise from Phobos is equally rewarding as the joy of boosting and swooping down into a CQC/Arena combat furball and come out grinning. Arena as a standalone introductory has all the elements of great space combat sims and is organized and laid out in a professional manner that tie nicely in with the main game. I suspect I am not alone in my conclusions as all matches I have had the joy of being in are full and follow normal high and low periods of interest thru out the day and week.
So accordingly, at 2 am, your widget with a know 50% error rate of reporting, shows active interest that has doubled from the original OP observation. Simply pointing at a "snapshot" of piece of swiss cheese and proclaiming it has holes and must be therefore must be unworthy of cheese is an interesting way to view things. I truly look forward to more analysis over longer intervals and I would like to digest a perfect report. I don't care if your report tails are skewed left or right over time, just please something better than a 20% error rate for a 26 week and 52 week period.
And finally as someone somewhat familiar with the process of producing various goods to deliver to market, one morning I asked my Pappi why not make raisons, he replied I don't sell grapes when I can sell wine, and I won't sell wine before its time. Cheers Pappi.
Well let's try that and record the results shall we? Let's see how "fast" it really is!
[video=youtube;h-d23cNDtII]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-d23cNDtII[/video]
lol, dude, I just tried 3 times in a row, max wait I get is 60 seconds. Like I said, not bad considering I am near Dubai with a wireless connection to my ISP. +3 Gmt at the moment, it's past 11pm in the UK on a weeknight. And before you ask, yes I have video evidence from shadowplay, I'll upload it.
Either you are getting shafted by your ISP, or you haven't followed the router tips the devs posted a little while back.
[video=youtube;klmZArXB5MY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klmZArXB5MY[/video]
Either you are getting shafted by your ISP, or you haven't followed the router tips the devs posted a little while back.
[video=youtube;klmZArXB5MY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klmZArXB5MY[/video]
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nope line is still 200 Mbps down - and 12 mbps up and I live virtually next door to the data centre so...
router is fine too
[h=2]Players online[/h]
- 6right now
- 624h peak
- 54all-time peak24 days ago
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nope line is still 200 Mbps down - and 12 mbps up and I live virtually next door to the data centre so...
router is fine too
[h=2]Players online[/h]
- 6right now
- 624h peak
- 54all-time peak24 days ago
Dude, the video speaks for itself.... Your connection speed has very little to do with it, it is mainly down to your ISP, my home in the UK has fibre optic with Virgin broadband, it's actually a lot worse than my home out here in Dubai on wireless. Anyway, I am starting to sense that you are a bit of a troll, no time for that in my life. I'm outa here.
Cheers
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Excuse me? (sorry to go offtopic) I find it rather bad form to be called a troll by the likes of you, it reeks of baiting.
If you do that to your family fine, but please keep it civil here
I think my video also speaks for itself moreso as my internet connection is better than yours. There seems to be a correlation between the matchmaking behavior observed by several people and the steam stats maybe there are more elite peers playing in the desert, who knows...fact remains.
From a technical point of view I have to disagree with you as what you stated there is utter nonsense.
good for you!
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