Sticky for optimal Windows Mixed Reality Headset settings

Violins77

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Hdale85 said:
But a lot of that should be better on the business edition cause it uses an oled panel but lower resolution I believe 1440x1440 instead of 4k or whatever the standard one uses.
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Probably, there isn't a lot of info about the BE, I don't even know if you can find it in any online store. But the ghosting issues should definitely be lessened, if not removed from the BE version. Try the Pimax forums, this is probably the best source for people who have the BE.
 

Hdale85

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Violins77 said:
Probably, there isn't a lot of info about the BE, I don't even know if you can find it in any online store. But the ghosting issues should definitely be lessened, if not removed from the BE version. Try the Pimax forums, this is probably the best source for people who have the BE.
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The link that I left in my previous post is the store you buy it from lol. I'll have to check their forums, the only issue I have that usually is I tend to find people on those forums that generally overlook flaws or issues because they like the brand or are tied to it or something lol. I'll take a look though.
 

evanevery

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Violins77 said:
Hi there! I just thought I would chime in here with my experience with the HMD Odyssey.

First, I would like to mentioned that the issue evanevery mentioned happening were definitely real. The jittering in all mouse enabled panel was unbearable.

The situation is MUCH MUCH better now, I worked directly with Geoff from Microsoft, providing traces and describing the issue, and multiple bugs were fixed with the render. He also confirmed they are working directly with Frontier Development to fix even more.

For me the game is easily playable now. The glaring issues are definitely there, but I believe this is a limitation of the lens design. It is not really that annoying to me. One thing I would like though would be able to choose the refresh rate of the display. For Elite Dangerous, 60 hz would be enough for me, and I would be able to mostly run the game without ever triggering reprojection and "ghost images". I could obviously lower the graphics to maintan an almost constant 90 FPS, but I much prefer tha 1.5 HMD quality, even though I lock the game at 60 FPS which obviously triggers reprojection all the time.
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I re-tested my Odyssey at the last updates to SteamVR and WinMR4VR. Nothing had changed. Are you running beta code (MR4VR) or something that no one else has access to? Cause nothing has improved with respect to my WindowsMR HMD...
 

S1inder

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So I just got an Acer AH101 WMR and I am liking it so far. However, I have had several crashes in Elite and not sure what I should be looking for. The first time I loaded it up and it just worked I was blown away, its really a new experience. The reason I went with the Acer was because price...thats it lol. I was able to pick it up brand new for 200 USD and I am hoping the bugs will get ironed out shortly. The crashes that I am having do not appear to be time based or anything particular that I am doing. The last 2 crashes were while I was trying to dock in a station...no idea why they crashed, it appeared to be running smooth and then just freezes. Sometimes I even have to reboot...

System Specs
i7 4790K @ stock
16GB DDR3
Intel 600P 512GB M.2 NVMe
eVGA GTX 1080 SC

Any thoughts on why it could be crashing, are there logs I should be looking at to get an idea of what is going on? I have not really messed with the video settings, is there something I should change possibly?

Thanks all :)

EDIT: So did some testing last night. I had opted for the SteamVM Beta and lowered the Supersampling to .8 from 1.0. After logging in it instantly crashed while being docked. I then changed the settings back and opted out of the Beta and it still just crashes when I log in. My ship is docked somewhere in Hyel Yeh and I am unable to get out of the station because it just crashes within a few minutes of loading in.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

UPDATED: I figured out my problem, it was caused by me...of course. I had gone into Settings\Mixed Reality and then the Headset display option. In there I had changed the Visual Quality to high, this is what broke ED. I turned it back to Automatic and I was able to play for over an hour without issue...Wow its just beautiful with VR lol.
 
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Warwick Black

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Hi guys, I'm new to VR, my Lenovo Explorer arrived yesterday. I have a couple of questions ...
Do you have to download Elite on steam to play in VR, or can you play using the Elite Dangerous Launcher?
If you need to play from steam, do you have to uninstall the version installed with the Launcher?
Thanks.
 

Ism

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@WarwickBlack; When I got my Odyssey MR, I had to install Elite VR through Steam to use Elite in VR. I didn't remove the original Elite or the launcher.
When I sen't the Odyssey back, I uninstalled the Steam VR and was able to use the old launcher without re-installing everything.
 
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Moohbear

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Another update on my tribulation with WMR.
Got a Core i7-3770 instead of the Core i5-3570. No noticeable changes with regard to FPS or CPU load.
Swapped GTX 1060 6GB for a GTX 1070Ti 8GB. Big improvement on the FPS front. With the same settings (ss 1.0, hmd quality to 1.25, everything off or low), I went from 60-ish in station to almost 90fps constant. It's also very noticeable visually, a sort of eerie smoothness in motion. Looking to upgrade CPU/MB, but I'm wondering how the new Ryzen cpus fare. You get more cores than Intel's offering, but the per-core performances are lower.
 

Retrograde

Retrograde
Ism said:
@WarwickBlack; When I got my Odyssey MR, I had to install Elite VR through Steam to use Elite in VR.
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No. I have the HP WMR headset and there is no need to install Elite through Steam. You of course do need Steam installed on your system in order to get SteamVR and Steam WMR, but Steam doesn't need to be running.
 

heretowatch

heretowatch
Moohbear said:
Another update on my tribulation with WMR.
Got a Core i7-3770 instead of the Core i5-3570. No noticeable changes with regard to FPS or CPU load.
Swapped GTX 1060 6GB for a GTX 1070Ti 8GB. Big improvement on the FPS front. With the same settings (ss 1.0, hmd quality to 1.25, everything off or low), I went from 60-ish in station to almost 90fps constant. It's also very noticeable visually, a sort of eerie smoothness in motion. Looking to upgrade CPU/MB, but I'm wondering how the new Ryzen cpus fare. You get more cores than Intel's offering, but the per-core performances are lower.
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IMO the benefit of upgrading your CPU is not worth the money. The i7-3770 is still a very capable CPU and it's been proven that CPU power has a minimal influence on VR performance (it sounds like you reached this conclusion as well, as you saw no gain when switching from an i5 to an i7). It's all in the GPU. Now that you have a 1070Ti I'd suggest waiting to see what Nvidia's next offering is. Plus it sounds like the WMR drivers need more work, so a bit more time wouldn't hurt at this point.
 

Moohbear

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heretowatch said:
IMO the benefit of upgrading your CPU is not worth the money. The i7-3770 is still a very capable CPU and it's been proven that CPU power has a minimal influence on VR performance (it sounds like you reached this conclusion as well, as you saw no gain when switching from an i5 to an i7). It's all in the GPU. Now that you have a 1070Ti I'd suggest waiting to see what Nvidia's next offering is. Plus it sounds like the WMR drivers need more work, so a bit more time wouldn't hurt at this point.
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Upgrading the CPU is not just for VR and Elite. But I checked the prices, with RAM at over $200 for 16GB and Intel 300 series mobo prices through the roof, I'll wait.
 

Hdale85

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Moohbear said:
Upgrading the CPU is not just for VR and Elite. But I checked the prices, with RAM at over $200 for 16GB and Intel 300 series mobo prices through the roof, I'll wait.
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? You can get a Z370 motherboard for well under 200 bucks, and you can get a fully featured Z370 motherboard for about 250. The Gigabyte Aurus Gaming 7 has everything you'd ever want including some of the best audio features ever seen on a motherboard or even an external sound card and it's only 249. Personally I see a lot of high value in the Z370 motherboard line up. Memory prices have been pretty crap for a while though....
 

Moohbear

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Hdale85 said:
? You can get a Z370 motherboard for well under 200 bucks, and you can get a fully featured Z370 motherboard for about 250. The Gigabyte Aurus Gaming 7 has everything you'd ever want including some of the best audio features ever seen on a motherboard or even an external sound card and it's only 249. Personally I see a lot of high value in the Z370 motherboard line up. Memory prices have been pretty crap for a while though....
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Welcome to Canada, the land where everything is more expensive (except healthcare :D)
Although Newegg.ca has Z370 mobos in stock now. For $144.99+tax+shipping.
 

mossfoot

mossfoot
Just to add my two cents here.

I got a Lenovo Explorer and got it working for Elite Dangerous - BOTH through Steam (using a key) and just through the desktop inside the cliff house using the regular app. It still needs to have Steam VR installed, I believe, but I found it interesting that they access different versions of the game (I had changed the HUD colors on one, not the other)

I had a HELL of a time getting it running, though. In the end it turned out that my on-board 3.0 USBs weren't cutting the mustard, so I had to get a PCI card expansion for dedicated 3.0 slots. And even then I had to uninstall drivers, reinstall them, uninstall, DELETE, reinstall, etc... but eventually things clicked. But it was a serious pain.

I'm running an i5-3450 @3.10GHz processor and 16GB of RAM using a GTX970. It's playing pretty damn smooth, smoother than the PSVR using Trinus and with better resolution too. I hated the time it took to get it running, but now that it is, it runs very well.

Downsides - very small sweet spot in terms of visuals. Not as comfortable as PSVR (I feel I have to tighten it too much, and then my skull pays the price).
 
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Th3Sharky

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Hello.

I have a Lenovo Explorer and started noticing some flicker in the screen that i believe could have started in the last updates (As i didn't played too much in VR lately i cannot precise the update). The flickering of the screen was very strange as it was only in the background, if i had the menu open it would not flicker, only the background. After digging out for an answer in google (not found) i was trying to test if it was reprojection, settings, super sampling and accidentally started playing without the mouse (pressed Win+Y) and it stopped. Played for some hours without the mouse and never happened again. The mouse pointer is causing this! Tried all the options for the mouse and always does the flicker. Anyone had the same issue?
 

mossfoot

mossfoot
Whoa! And for Elite that's all you need.

Good buy, I have one and can definitely recommend it, in case anyone here is on the fence.
 
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