[Suggestion] Andromeda Galaxy

FunsiHD

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Hey,
Before I go further, I KNOW that the Milky Way Galaxy has enough Stars to explore but I think this Idea is good.

a other Lifeform has colonized the Andromeda Galaxy and have that stuff what Humans have in the Milky Way Galaxy but Alien like. You need a new hyperdrive that you can use to travel to the andromeda galaxy. In their Space Stations you can buy Materials from their Planets and Space Ships that have more functions. You can install new weapons that are better.

There are so many Ideas for a Andromeda Galaxy Update.
 

VonBlade

VonBlade
I would be happy with a new race or similar hidden away on another spiral arm of the Milky Way. FD know where we've been, and there must be more than enough bits of the galaxy that are equivalent to the bubble on the edge. Build something that looks a bit like the Boron's stuff in X and just quietly leave it there for people to discover.
 

JesusRocks1988

JesusRocks1988
Honestly, I'd be happy if they just made the Andromeda galaxy in the skybox look like the Andromeda galaxy.

Someone else posted this comparison on the forum a long time ago:

andromeda_zpszagfxwb0.jpg


Left is ED skybox version, right are photos of the real thing. It looks bad compared to the real thing.
 
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Chrystoph

Chrystoph
Theoretically, you could use stellar streams and a some variety of hydrogen scoop or a modification of the current scoops to traverse between galaxies.

The problem currently inherent is that FSD has a max that is low enough that it would take the better part of a century or more to ride the stream to the Magellanic clouds on the presumption you could fuel the ship. We would need at least four more orders of magnitude, and more realistically, five, of speed to make the trip viable.
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
JesusRocks1988 said:
Honestly, I'd be happy if they just made the Andromeda galaxy in the skybox look like the Andromeda galaxy.

Someone else posted this comparison on the forum a long time ago:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m113/TA-Zach/Elite-Dangerous/andromeda_zpszagfxwb0.jpg

Left is ED skybox version, right are photos of the real thing. It looks bad compared to the real thing.
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Most of the images we get from NASA and other agencies aren't just constrained to the visible light spectrum. They're "false color" images that often include infrared, ultraviolet and radio spectra in addition to what can be seen with the human eye.

The universe looks so much more crisp in radio waves:
light-46-728.jpg
 

JesusRocks1988

JesusRocks1988
Galactic Fork said:
But the image on the right is highly magnified.
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Jaiotu said:
Most of the images we get from NASA and other agencies aren't just constrained to the visible light spectrum. They're "false color" images that often include infrared, ultraviolet and radio spectra in addition to what can be seen with the human eye.

The universe looks so much more crisp in radio waves:
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/light-111019102905-phpapp02/95/light-46-728.jpg?cb=1319020268
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I think you're both missing what I'm saying. Firstly, the bottom right image is in visible light that you can see through a ground based amateur telescope (the top right is clearly Hubble).

The real problem I'm pointing out is that unsightly beige (lol) blob that makes it look like the galaxy has had something dripped on it - the galactic core in the bottom right image is a lot smaller and more defined. It definitely needs redrawing.
 

CMDR Yates

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JesusRocks1988 said:
The real problem I'm pointing out is that unsightly beige (lol) blob that makes it look like the galaxy has had something dripped on it - the galactic core in the bottom right image is a lot smaller and more defined. It definitely needs redrawing.
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Yeah, in-game it looks almost like a black hole with an accretion disc as opposed to a galaxy. I remember getting excited when I first noticed it :D
 

varonica

varonica
CMDR Yates said:
Yeah, in-game it looks almost like a black hole with an accretion disc as opposed to a galaxy. I remember getting excited when I first noticed it :D
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The thing is, that's really all you can see with the naked eye;

http://28oa9i1t08037ue3m1l0i861.wpe...p-content/uploads/2014/06/andromeda-small.png

Because the galaxy is so far away the light from the rest of the disk is really not bright enough for the unaided eye to see, so all you can really see is the central blob. if it was bright enough for the naked eye to see it would be more like this in the night sky;

http://28oa9i1t08037ue3m1l0i861.wpe...content/uploads/2014/06/Andromeda-FEATURE.png

The actual view we get in ED is much closer to what we would see than any telescopic image.
 

dogsolitude_uk

dogsolitude_uk
I've got mixed feelings about adding other galaxies :/

On the one hand you get that more remote, more 'alien' vibe, from the idea of a whole new galaxy. This is undoubtedly cool. But that said, why would something that evolved in the Andromeda galaxy necessary be more alien and exotic than something that evolved in our own galaxy? The essential building blocks of matter, gravity etc. would be pretty much the same as in ours.

My big minus point would be that the order of magnitude of differences in distance is so huge the it would stretch credibility to introduce tech that would get us there. With Elite, it's very much modelled on current scientific theory, with a few stretches here and there for things like FSD. I like that 'hard SF' aspect of it: our tech is limited by some agreed consistent principles based on a pseudo-realistic projection of current scientific knowledge.

So... For me any way of getting us to Andromeda would need to be credible. A black hole that contains charge could create a wormhole for example, but we'd need some way to harness that... Apparently they can be very unreliable...

With 100 billion stars in our existing one, I should imagine (and I'd be fascinated to see some stats on this) that vast areas of our existing one still haven't been visited, so I'm more in agreement with VonBlade on this one I think.
 

CMDR Yates

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varonica said:
The thing is, that's really all you can see with the naked eye;

http://28oa9i1t08037ue3m1l0i861.wpe...p-content/uploads/2014/06/andromeda-small.png
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Yeah, I've seen Andromeda before with the naked eye and with telescopes, and it does indeed look like the first image you posted. Thing is, I don't think the skybox version resembles that closely enough: it has a taller, more spherical central blob and a very distinct vortex of galactic arms tightly coiled around it, so in that sense it actually looks like a much closer/brighter object. On the other hand, we see it in Elite without the handicap of Earth's atmosphere, so these parts may well appear brighter and more distinct, but then I would also expect to be able to see more of the fainter parts visible in the second image.

In-game it doesn't look like Andromeda from Earth or what I'd imagine it'd look like from space (though I could be wrong).
 
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daviddayag

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JesusRocks1988 said:
I think you're both missing what I'm saying. Firstly, the bottom right image is in visible light that you can see through a ground based amateur telescope (the top right is clearly Hubble).

The real problem I'm pointing out is that unsightly beige (lol) blob that makes it look like the galaxy has had something dripped on it - the galactic core in the bottom right image is a lot smaller and more defined. It definitely needs redrawing.
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This is my image, I captured it last year from the desert with an 11 inch telescope:
Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UV8MsgvS9/?igshid=1fs835rxhapnb

ED is amazing but the image of andromeda is wrong there and needs work.
 
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