Suggestion for new Odyssey/VR compatible min spec graphics card

GunnerBill

GunnerBill
I'm currently using a Nvidia 1080Ti with a pretty healthy OC to run Horizons in VR. I have no performance issues with that even at fairly high graphics settings.

However as you might expect it's a bit choppy in Odyssey.

I'm looking for some suggestions for a graphics card upgrade but can't really afford the very highest spec so I guess what I'm after is the minimum spec I can get away with to make EDO run smooth on my Rift VR rig.

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amcb10

amcb10
Mine runs great with a 2070 Super on a Reverb G2. I use the EDProfiler to reduce some settings but for the majority it looks and plays amazing.

Settlements is a different matter though and the frames do drop slightly but no where near like they used to do.
 

HappyMoonMonkey

HappyMoonMonkey
Check the comparisons on userbenchmark.com. Broadly your going to get equivalent performance from a 2070 and a 3060 eg: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4090vs3918

You do also need to pay attention to whether your CPU or ram upgraded may be necessary. EDO is really CPU intensive and you may not see any performance increase by upgrading the GPU alone. Run MSI Afterburner and look at the performance charts or the performance charts in task manager. I'm running a 1080 and I know that I can't get any better performance out of it via the resolution and quality settings because it's CPU bound. I have an upper limit beyond which frames rates will fall but below that, decreasing quality only ends up with the GPU working less hard, rather than giving me more frames. I'm hopeful the Frontier will further optimise but who knows?
 

BigBANGtheory [VR]

BigBANGtheory [VR]
Its really hard to say because you will have your own perception of quality, both visual fidelity and frame rates, mapped on to the capability of your HMD hardware. You then need the CPU to drive the rendering pipeline fast enough to not bottleneck a modern GPU.

I'd also be very cautious of players claiming 'mine runs great with a 2070 Super on a Reverb G2', not to say they are being dishonest but rather their quality expectations and tolerances might greatly differ from others. There is no way a 2070S can drive a Reverb G2 in Odyssey at its full resolution with SS 2.0 and all the other video quality settings turned up whilst not falling back on ASW and reprojection - that just isn't happening, somewhere there will be big compromises going on.

If it looks good and plays good great, the point is that its near on impossible to say where one persons thresholds are vs. another.

Personally given you've got a Rift which is pretty modest on the resolution front I'd stick with your 1080Ti until you can double your performance which is 6800XT, 3080 and above blended in with what ever next gen GPUs deliver at in 6months.
 

AlSki

AlSki
Your question depends on things you didn't include;
  • What is the resolution of your headset?
  • What FPS does it want to run at?
  • What FPS can you tolerate (different people are more affected etc) ?

I ran a 1070 and i5-8400 with a Rift for years happily under Horizons playing hours at a time, using a custom graphics settings that was a mix of VR Ultra/High. (i.e. 1200x1080x2 @ 45FPS with ASW)
Now with a move to a 3080 on Odyssey (same old i5-8400 though), I can run 4K Ultra in pancake with 50-60 FPS even in settlements.
In VR, Oculus Debug tool shows about 50% headroom at 90FPS, so it should be silky smooth, but it randomly stutters and drops frames. I get this even if I run VR Low (moving up VR high etc just reduces the headroom).

I'm now struggling with headaches after 10-15 mins, which is probably due to all the dropped frames. Sat in my cockpit looking out out over a settlement, the lighting seems particularly evil with individual light sources flickering differently both in each each eye, and from other light sources.

My personal guess based off my experiences and other anecdotes, is that there is some piece of code that has a single threaded dependency and this causes the frame drops. Until FDev sort this out, then you need either a cast iron stomach, or a CPU capable of very fast single threaded operations to mitigate when it happens.
YMMV.
 

GunnerBill

GunnerBill
Thanks for all the replies everyone.

This is my CPU: Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-7700k (4.2GHz) 8MB Cache.

I run my rift at a mix of Ultra and High. Right now my experience is very similar to horizons when in space, but it does get jittery when you add more ships. However as expected the performance is nauseating (literally) in settlements.
 

Dooguk

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GunnerBill said:
Thanks for all the replies everyone.

This is my CPU: Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-7700k (4.2GHz) 8MB Cache.

I run my rift at a mix of Ultra and High. Right now my experience is very similar to horizons when in space, but it does get jittery when you add more ships. However as expected the performance is nauseating (literally) in settlements.
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Did I read somewhere that the games AI could be the cause of this problem? That would make sense to me if the stuttering happens when sitting in a ship outside a settlement or when AI controlled ships appear.
I don't have any evidence to back this up because unlike most posters on games forums, I am not a game developer. ;)
 

AlSki

AlSki
AlSki said:
I'm now struggling with headaches after 10-15 mins, which is probably due to all the dropped frames.
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So I took another stab at this today, I flew EDH style around a starport and then hopped between a good few jumps over to do some engineering. This time no headaches, so maybe it is just settlement based issue for me.
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
No GPU will fix the issues in Odyssey, but if you want to get one at a good price and are patient then keep an eye on the AMD and NVidia sites as they regularly have cards for sale at RRP. I picked up a 3090 that way for cheaper than most sites were selling a 3080 at the time. It didn't make my EDO experience any more enjoyable (I have an HP G2).
 

aXeL

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I just picked up a 3090 for £750 on Gumtree, with 2yrs left on the warranty ( warranty was a must for me on a 2d hand GPU ). I had an old 1080Ti and if I'd paid even current MSRP on the 3090 I would've been bitterly disappointed with the value. I know supply chains and inflation are still wrecked but retail prices are absurd.
 

BigBANGtheory [VR]

BigBANGtheory [VR]
aXeL said:
I know supply chains and inflation are still wrecked but retail prices are absurd.
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Unfortunately its because Nvidia and board partners are trying everything they can to keep price artificially high in preparation for the next gen launch in Q3/4. I seriously wouldn't put it past them to take the products out of circulation than lower the pricing to meet market demands. August will be in interesting month imho....
 

aXeL

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BigBANGtheory [VR] said:
Unfortunately its because Nvidia and board partners are trying everything they can to keep price artificially high in preparation for the next gen launch in Q3/4. I seriously wouldn't put it past them to take the products out of circulation than lower the pricing to meet market demands. August will be in interesting month imho....
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I must respectfully disagree. No manufacturer wants inventory sitting in the warehouse much less pull it from resellers otherwise it's all opex and asset cost that has to be written off which means sunk cost and of course lower EPS. I might take a gander at their quarterly reports when I'm done with BoE.

Edit: NV opex has just had its first really bad quarter as has their earnings. Before that their opex was going up inline with income so, no, they're definitely not doing anything 'artificial' with pricing. AMD is showing similar form, Now checking Intel.. same again.

Edit err Edit: In fact all the price cuts we've been seeing in NV GPUs lately make perfect sense given how badly the last 3 months went for them. They clearly are having trouble selling inventory.
 
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BigBANGtheory [VR]

BigBANGtheory [VR]
aXeL said:
I must respectfully disagree. No manufacturer wants inventory sitting in the warehouse much less pull it from resellers otherwise it's all opex and asset cost that has to be written off which means sunk cost and of course lower EPS. I might take a gander at their quarterly reports when I'm done with BoE.

Edit: NV opex has just had its first really bad quarter as has their earnings. Before that their opex was going up inline with income so, no, they're definitely not doing anything 'artificial' with pricing. AMD is showing similar form, Now checking Intel.. same again.

Edit err Edit: In fact all the price cuts we've been seeing in NV GPUs lately make perfect sense given how badly the last 3 months went for them. They clearly are having trouble selling inventory.
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Of course they don't want to keep stock, but they REALLY don't want to lower price and will do everything they can to hold it.

You can't trust Nvidia's financial reports, they've been caught and fined for lying their asses off several times now there is even a class action against them for deceiving investors over GPU supply to miners which is a known volatile market.
 

aXeL

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BigBANGtheory [VR] said:
Of course they don't want to keep stock, but they REALLY don't want to lower price and will do everything they can to hold it.

You can't trust Nvidia's financial reports, they've been caught and fined for lying their asses off several times now there is even a class action against them for deceiving investors over GPU supply to miners which is a known volatile market.
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Looking at the substance of the above my visceral reaction is:
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No offence intended, just nothing really I can add
 
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ebbrell

ebbrell
Don't be buying anything until AMD and Nvidia launch their next gen.

In will soon be here, then fill your boots
 
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