Suggestions regarding care packages

Ryuji Ly

Ryuji Ly
Have excess materials from care packages that are already collected in one package instead of taking up the same amount of space for something like 5 lead, I am not even at powerplay rank 100 yet, and I still have tons of care packages I can't collected as I maxed them out.
Have a button to collect all.
Alternatively, increase the cap on odyssey materials.
Reasons for the suggestion: Too many care packages. Also they often jump locations, sometimes a package that was displayed at the top is displayed at the bottom, or second to last and vice versa. There are several friends that have far more care packages and for them just entering the interface of care packages freezes the game. I believe I read a similar post regarding this, so it may be a common issue for those that either don't collect them regularly, or are of very high rank.

On a side note. Rare trading and Escape Pods have been disabled since 19th of November, which is now almost 5 weeks ago. We Aisling players have been nerfed for 4 entire cycles... When will they be back
 

photomankc

photomankc
They are piling up to the point I can't even tell which ones are new and I can at least get the credits out of anymore. Then add in the list reorganizing each time you collect one... again, I have to assume someone is just trolling us. "The list is reordered on each use... did you not notice that? Nah, I thought it was funny".
 

pmejna

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I love lates progress of ED. Love how frontier changed attitude. But damn! Imagine being space traversing philanthropist, who owns entire fleets of spaceships, the one with fleet career working deep in the black, the agent of Galactic power, soon being able to colonize entire systems by constructing space ports, space stations, settlements and industrial estates - yet he can not own a storage for his materials 😅😅😅
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
You do have storage! A ridiculous amount, up to 300 of any material that can ever exist! It sits in your pocket dimension (real advanced tech that!) that you can carry anywhere and weighs nothing! And survives all sorts of disasters! Even the Goids and the Guardians dream of such amazing power! Only Santa has better tech! 🎅
 

Koma Pahu

Koma Pahu
I wonder if it’s really a problem. Or is the issue that people already have bins full of mats. PP game mechanics shouldn’t be made for people with 1,000s hrs in the game.

I signed my alt up before I’d unlocked any of the engineers and I don’t have the time to charge to level 100 in the first week, but I’m far from having too many mats.

I’m also curious why it’s an issue if you have a bunch of unused care packages, if you’re not using the mats why do you need more?

Although I do agree with the point about increasing Odyssey mats, and have done since the beginning, as you can’t even store enough to engineer three suits while you unlock the engineers.
 

photomankc

photomankc
It's a problem to me there are mats that I do need and one-by-one'ing through a list of packages that reorders itself upon interaction to get the ones I want is an extremely bad UI. There is also 500,000cr per unopened package but I can't tell which are opened and partial and which are unopened. Once you have 30 or 40 of them stacked up it gets exponentially worse.

Obviously some of us are doing FAR more than others in PP. That doesn't mean that UI issues, that are in fact bad UI issues for everyone not just us, should not be addressed or called out.

I'd be fine if they disappeared after a week or two as well. Not ideal, but at least it would work around the issue and make it less painful for those with huge numbers of partial packages.

The reordering-lists, and scrolling-you-to-random-points-in-the-list bugs are all over the power play UI. Collecting goods or malware, turning in data and loot have the issue as well. The mini-shell-game of "where did the thing I was selecting go" ought to be fixed. No good UI does that. It took me a while to understand why I kept having PP cargo that was wrong for the trip I was making till I figured out that after the first collection, the list is reordered and the item you were selecting is sent to the bottom.
 

gfldex

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I'm now at the point that the power contact UI locks up when I open the care packages section. The other ship panels still work, but I can't collect any packages or leave the power contant UI. Looks like I was a bit too busy.

However, I believe the simple (read: not easy to code :) solution would be to collaps packages (of the same type) into one during server maintenance.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Koma Pahu said:
I’m also curious why it’s an issue if you have a bunch of unused care packages, if you’re not using the mats why do you need more?
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If it had a better interface, it wouldn't matter - the problem is that while a lot of my material reserves are either full or have sufficient materials to last the rest of the game, there are a few G4 and G5 materials where the care package is still a really nice bonus.

But if I don't clear out the rest of them I risk the interface locking up because it's got too many packages on it - and long before that point being unable to find which package has the new bits.

metatheurgist said:
Nope, they should get deleted after 1 week just like missions. I can't store mats by holding complete missions, this shouldn't be allowed either. Use it or lose it. 😛
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I'd be entirely happy with this - the spare materials are ones that, by definition, I'm not using fast enough.

It wouldn't even need the care package interface at all at this point - just have the credits and whatever materials you have space for transferred to your inventory when you obtain it.
 

Shurimal

Shurimal
Yup, really annoying. My mat bins are chock-full of stuffz I rarely use and I can't even transfer Odyssey material to my Fleet Carrier due to the transfer bug (I wonder whether if the bar tender trading actually worked, the heavenly windfall of Odyssey materials along with the engineering refresh has crashed the player-to-player market for them anyway?). Care packages are piling up even at rank 20-something. Rolling all uncollected stuffz into one "surplus package" at the end of cycle would be ideal.

Guess I should go over my fleet, engineer everything to G5 even if it's completely unneeded, buy and upgrade more space suits and small arms that I'll never need and start synthing premium ammo every time I'm bounty hunting. Never thought I'd have this kind of a problem with engineering in the game--but hey, it's better than the old problem of never having enough materials for that one G5 module you actually need🤪
 

Billaien

Billaien
Im at Rank 56, just up-traded a ton of on-foot mats to the point where it went from 1000/1000 to 557.
picked up a bunch of care packages, and its full AGAIN.

While it does make engineering more accessable i guess, it created a whole new problem:
i hear other commanders having the UI starting to glitch as they have hundreds of unclaimed Packages waiting for them.

Honestly, i feel the Engineering Mats for Power related activities are kinda out of place in the first place.
 

Tifu

Tifu
Billaien said:
Honestly, i feel the Engineering Mats for Power related activities are kinda out of place in the first place.
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I strongly disagree, for returning players and new players struggling to get mats and catch up it's a godsend.

People who are full up with mats and struggling to manage their big pile of unopened care packages need a solution but depriving the rest of us of mats isn't the fix you're looking for.
 

Koma Pahu

Koma Pahu
Tifu said:
I strongly disagree, for returning players and new players struggling to get mats and catch up it's a godsend.

People who are full up with mats and struggling to manage their big pile of unopened care packages need a solution but depriving the rest of us of mats isn't the fix you're looking for.
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It’s very different receiving the care packages when you have zero mats in the bin. Being able to get mats without having to park your PP activities is really quite handy.

My honest opinion, having too many mats to use the care package sounds a bit like a first world problem. But if it’s causing issues then it needs to be to be fixed, making it like the Thargoid war rewards would be an obvious fix to me.
 

Shurimal

Shurimal
Koma Pahu said:
My honest opinion, having too many mats to use the care package sounds a bit like a first world problem. But if it’s causing issues then it needs to be to be fixed, making it like the Thargoid war rewards would be an obvious fix to me.
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It is a first-world-problem exclusive to well-established commanders, absolutely 😉 If it didn't cause UI glitches and clutter, it'd be perfectly fine (splendid even!) to have some "emergency reserve" in the locker of your Power contact. But as it is now, it's just not working very well UX-wise. The idea of PP care packages is great, though, I wouldn't want it to be nerfed or removed!
 

Ryuji Ly

Ryuji Ly
Tifu said:
I strongly disagree, for returning players and new players struggling to get mats and catch up it's a godsend.

People who are full up with mats and struggling to manage their big pile of unopened care packages need a solution but depriving the rest of us of mats isn't the fix you're looking for.
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Yeah I am not saying that, I also found them really helpful considering I only joined Elite Dangerous late September this year and didn't have much materials stocked up.

Even then, not even above rank 100, I can't even claim around 30 care packages unless I trade some materials because they just contain 5 of a material I am topped up on. And that's a big problem when it takes up the same space as a full care package, as well as all the packages shuffling around with each interaction.
Moreover trying to claim them after unleashing a merit bomb which ranked me up by 12 ranks in one go was bloody impossible. Gave up trying to claim them after struggling with the interface for a good half hour.

My suggestion wasn't to change what the care packages give, and how they are earned, it is the way we collect them that I have issues with.
 

Varsol

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Ryuji Ly said:
Have excess materials from care packages that are already collected in one package instead of taking up the same amount of space for something like 5 lead, I am not even at powerplay rank 100 yet, and I still have tons of care packages I can't collected as I maxed them out.
Have a button to collect all.
Alternatively, increase the cap on odyssey materials.
Reasons for the suggestion: Too many care packages. Also they often jump locations, sometimes a package that was displayed at the top is displayed at the bottom, or second to last and vice versa. There are several friends that have far more care packages and for them just entering the interface of care packages freezes the game. I believe I read a similar post regarding this, so it may be a common issue for those that either don't collect them regularly, or are of very high rank.

On a side note. Rare trading and Escape Pods have been disabled since 19th of November, which is now almost 5 weeks ago. We Aisling players have been nerfed for 4 entire cycles... When will they be back
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Absolutely a pain even if my 50+ partial packages could be consolidated into just one list it
would solve most of my issues.
 

Par'Gellen

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I have so many unclaimable care packages that it breaks the UI and as soon as I try to collect one it glitches out and freezes. The only way to recover is to log out to main menu and reenter the game. Trying to collect another care package results in the same freaked out UI and lockup.
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
All we need is the facility to sell them instead. I'm not even bothered about the amount we get. Running off to the material trader or station bar every day just to try keep the UI clean seems a bit silly to me.
 
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