It's an issue though with people that want something to do instead of staring at a screen doing nothing. It's called a "game" and as such, it's meant to be entertaining. Nobody says monopoly has to be played quickly, why not wait 10 minutes between turns staring at the board? There's a reason you don't. You might like doing nothing for ages but that doesn't make it a game or an experience because you may as well watch paint dry.
Supercruise is too slow in VR
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It's an issue though with people that want something to do instead of staring at a screen doing nothing. It's called a "game" and as such, it's meant to be entertaining. Nobody says monopoly has to be played quickly, why not wait 10 minutes between turns staring at the board? There's a reason you don't. You might like doing nothing for ages but that doesn't make it a game or an experience because you may as well watch paint dry.
Then don't use VR. It's there for immersion, but you want to pick and choose the immersion you get?
I'm with OP on this one but what annoys me most in SC is how some objects have some sort of artificial mass. Like I can't just slam on the brakes to access a USS in the middle of nowhere. Instead it causes me to decelerate much more slowly and shoot past it as if it had a gravity well. Meanwhile, I can just unlock it, slam the brakes, lock it again and drop. Who the hell thought that was a good game mechanic?
This is not vr related but possibly the most annoying mechanic in the game.
Hmmm well then I destroy your premise by being a third type of person becuase I love Arma and hate COD LOL but SC is boring as hell. However, I can point out where your analogy falls over.
Arma starts as soon as you get into the game. I play Coop when I play it so we have the first stage of the game which is planning. That doesn't exist in ED. After that you're travelling to your destination except you need to be on your toes, driving in formation if you're in a convoy. The point is there's always something to do even as you ingress on your objective. You're playing the part of a soldier as pretty much as real as you can get in a game - ED doesn't offer "as real as it gets in a spaceship" and you're left twiddling your thumbs in SC. I've never had that feeling playing any other game I've ever played before.
No, he wants immersion and not be bored to death.
I understand that it's a simulation and I like how supercruise takes some time, but currently there's really absolutely nothing to do during that time. A real pilot on longer journey would be able to read some news, check some systems, replace some damaged components, talk with other crewmembers - or just play a round of Dejarik
But in ED you can do absolutely nothing. You just sit there with the hands on the joystick and can't do anything except watch the contacts list.
If that time could be spent on something really interesting much fewer players would complain, probably even if supercruise was slower than it is now.
Good plan. Let's make it take literal hours to fly between planets and days between stars in disperse binaries and years between stars.
While we are at it: Newton paged... something about reaction mass, specific impulse, and g-forces.
It seems a great idea... until we discuss interdiction.
There's already engineer mods for FSD interdictors though
Supercruise is pretty good in giving a sense of scale, but could do with micro jumps between stars and major gas giants. The real problem is lack of gameplay in supercruise. I want to be able to fly stealthily, dodge patrols, avoid areas with bases/ships with interdiction weapons, avoid large spatial minefields or hazardous areas, use scanners to detect others rather than have things handed on a plate all the time etc.
If you're an explorer way out there I can understand why you'd say this. Out there, you don't have to watch your scanner for interdictions. Out there, signal sources are less common. You don't have much to do while supercruising.
In the bubble? There is plenty to do in supercruise. Supercruise is the time when you are most vulnerable to attack. It'd behoove you to pay closer attention.
Based on some of the things the devs have said, though, I suspect explorers will have more reasons to pay attention in supercruise as well soon...
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Agreed.
At a bare minimum: I'd like to jump between stars in a system (if you've scanned them at least).
Actually: I'd love to see astrogation let you drop near any body you have map information for.
While I wouldn't want to see a browser in game, how the older games used to deal with interplanetary travel was that you could subscribe to newsletters and read up on what was going on inside the bubble. This was kind of how they dealt with a bit of a storyline too you could follow the newspapers and join in, or simply not.
It'd be nice to be able to request the current trade prices of your destination too along with say, the current security status of the system. Things that would be nice could be things like APB's for wanted pirates (along with where they were last spotted). Alerts for when other players are interdicted in your system could be an interesting addition also, allowing other players to help out or join in the fight... (It would be interesting if the occasional npc cried for help, for the same reasons). More talking npc's, a little interaction like smugglers and pirates interacting (bribing) corrupt police or us doing the same (to pirates) to prevent them from interdicting us in the first place. There's so much that could be added to SC to make it more interesting, I really hope they do it justice.
This is ridiculous, it has nothing to do with instant gratification or scale. The request isn't universally (though there are some) to remove supercruise, it is to reduce the 'sit and do nothing at all, alt-tab or get a drink', essentially to remove the part that isn't gameplay or anything, it's just waiting, worse than a load screen. It's to reduce the nothing to get to the something. All the scale would stay, it would still take you longer to get to Pluto than Mars, but it would take you far less time to get to either. I love playing ED, I despise the parts of ED that make me wait in game to play it, parts like supercruise.
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Even in the bubble if you're watching for interdictors or signal sources or stations you're mostly just waiting, either dealing with it just as you start supercruise or ending it, the middle 90% is just waiting, no gameplay.
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I am not a VR user, so maybe there's a difference, but... The longest supercruise trips I've taken so far have been in the neighborhood of 300,000 Ls, or 55,884,600,000 miles (that's 89,937,600,000 km for Europe). These painfully long hauls take me maybe 3-4 minutes, if that, so I have to ask.. what are you doing? Flying at 1% throttle? I hear all kinds of complaints these sort of trips take too long. I must be missing something.
The need to remain alert against possible ambush adds tension and increases verisimilitude.
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In fairness, there are MUCH longer supercruise trips than 300k ls in the game. Also, I suspect that 300k ls takes you longer than you think it does.
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