I dont know whats so difficult to understand with SC. Your maximum save travel speed is determined by the gravity that affects you. If you come close to celestial body your maximum speed gets strongly reduced. When you fly with full throttle your actual speed is decreased slower than your maximum and so you loose control. With your throttle in the sweetspot your deceleration is more effective and you dont have to worry about the maximum.
Supercruise "uncontrolled acceleration" seems unintuitive
- Thread starter Cazliostro
- Start date
Takes a little practice to get the intuition for how tight a spiral to use, but I picked it up quite quickly.
Remember that you can shed quite a bit of speed at the end in many cases by doing a close pass of the planet, if the station isn't in a ridiculously high orbit.
Keep your throttle line in the middle of the blue bars, and you will notice that the throttle line itself turns blue too. In normal space this determines your optimal speed for tightest turning circles but in super cruise it's a speed regulator - keep the line blue and the computer will automatically manage your speed so that you don't overshoot.
Deleted member 38366
D
--- Deleted ---
Last edited by a moderator:
The way I understand it is that your ship has a kind of "base" SC speed, which is the speed you would travel at if you were well away from gravitational attraction. Your acceleration/deceleration are defined in terms of this speed. You can kinda see what this means when you accelerate away when you're fuel scooping.
The actual speed you travel at is a function of your base speed and any gravitational modifiers. So, when you're moving at 300c and try to pass a nearby star, your actual speed reduces. When you've passed the star, your actual speed climbs to a faster speed (I think your SC speed tops out at 2001c) Now comes the tricky bit. If you attempt to approach a station from the planet side, but you end up moving towards the station and thus away from the planet, then your actual speed increases faster than your base speed is decreasing, so although you're slowing down in SC terms, the decreasing gravity is causing you to speed up more.
And... how do you fix it? Go to 75% throttle when you're miles out from bigger planets. Once you've switched to 75% throttle, so long as your base speed would get you to your destination in more than a "destination time" of 0:06, then you're safe and cannot overshoot. It's only if your throttle is >75% that you can overshoot.
Last bit, then it's time to go shopping: If you're around 5Mm away from the station and your speed is <1Mm/s, then hit 100% throttle. You'll accelerate, but you cannot go faster than 1Mm/s that close to your target. You need to be REALLY fast to hit "J" or "K" to exit SC as you'll be inside 1Mm doing around 750Mm/s. You get about 2/3 of a second to disengage!
I've never experienced this problem, ever, in over 200hours of play. SC works a charm for me every time.
Simple mode: Set to 0:06 and hold it there.
Advanced mode: Go in faster and spiral your approach, as others have said. Both get you there as near as makes no difference the same speed.
Simple mode: Set to 0:06 and hold it there.
Advanced mode: Go in faster and spiral your approach, as others have said. Both get you there as near as makes no difference the same speed.
Your FSD does not stop on a penny, what you are experiencing with the "speed up" is actually your decceleration being inadequate for a safe drop; that's why the engine roars it's trying to stop slow you down and your too close and too fast.
You can always just ignore it and have an unsafe drop ( a few hull points easily repaired) NPCs seem to do this all the time BTW; they are the masters of the unsafe drop (that's why you see them screaming past you in the last seconds of a controlled decelleration).
The Blue zone of safe FSD usage moves around, and as you are going too fast it thus falls further down, this plus the engine roar as it struggles to decellerate creats the illusion of speeding up.
The more you know.
You can always just ignore it and have an unsafe drop ( a few hull points easily repaired) NPCs seem to do this all the time BTW; they are the masters of the unsafe drop (that's why you see them screaming past you in the last seconds of a controlled decelleration).
The Blue zone of safe FSD usage moves around, and as you are going too fast it thus falls further down, this plus the engine roar as it struggles to decellerate creats the illusion of speeding up.
The more you know.
This is all you need to know when dealing with Supercruise. Forget trying to figure out the hows and whys of mass and acceleration/decelleration etc, just use this formula and you will arrive perfectly every time. Bind a key or button to "Set throttle to 75%" and hit that key when you are 6 seconds away from your destination.
The other misleading thing about Supercruise that made me believe I was actually speeding up when I decreased my throttle was the sound of my engines and the shaking of the ship. In any other game these cues would be consistant with huge acceleration, when in Elite Dangerous I think it's meant to represent your autopilot system struggling to reduce your speed but failing due to mass (or something).
![[HJ]-RedRaven](https://forums-cdn.zaonce.net/data/avatars/m/67/67389.jpg?1553527112){kind=avatar}
I'm with Cazliostro - I'm sure there is some acceleration when on final approach and throttle is set to zero. (Or is it just increasing pitch on the FSD sound effect like the drive is screaming trying to slow down?)... even if the actual speed is decreasing, the sound increasing and the throttle bars going up is kinda counter-intuitive to whats actually going on.
We need a youtube clip showing the effect (I'm at work atm doh).
We need a youtube clip showing the effect (I'm at work atm doh).