COMPLETED CG Support Edmund Mahon in trade war (Trade)

[Kietrax]

Summary

System: Winiama​

Station: Bowersox Port (Coriolis Starport, large pads available, 1,929 Ls from main star, 77.26 Ly from Sol)​

Objective: Deliver Semiconductors, Ceramic Composites and Synthetic Fabrics​

Time limit: 5^th June 3311 @ 06:00 UTC​

Description

Two significant trading blocs have emerged in Alliance territory following the termination of the Strategic Defence Pact.​

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Last week, Sirius Corporation was ordered by the Alliance Assembly to reduce its involvement in Allied military infrastructure and logistics. The move, labelled ‘fascinatingly short-sighted' by Sirius Corp CEO Li Yong-Rui, has triggered an economic rush from Allied corporations to grab the lucrative contracts issued as a result.​

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The two trading blocs have somewhat predictably formed around the two leading voices in the Alliance Assembly – Edmund Mahon and Nakato Kaine.​

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Mahon’s supporters aim to reinforce the Prime Minister’s position via high levels of trade. A spokesperson said that Mahon ‘will prevent the economic disaster which Kaine’s Assembly motion has threatened.’​

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Both trade blocs have asked for shipments of Semiconductors, Ceramic Composites and Synthetic Fabrics. ​

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Commodities sold as part of this initiative will have a 55x price multiplier.​

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Trade pilots looking to help Edmund Mahon’s trade bloc can sign up at Bowersox Port in Winiama.​

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Pilots who register at least 1 contribution by delivering Semiconductors, Ceramic Composites and Synthetic Fabrics will receive the following rewards, regardless of which side wins:​

• 1x of each 6A/4A/3A/4D/3D pre-engineered power distributor, with both system and engine focussed modifications.
  Weapons: -25% capacity, -20% recharge
  Engines: +45% capacity, +40% recharge
  Systems: +45% capacity, +40% recharge
  No experimental effects can be applied.
• Credits, depending on success tier achieved and individual contribution level.

If Mahon emerges victorious, pilots in the top 75% and above, regardless of their pledged power, will receive:​

• Additional 1x of each 6A/4A/3A/4D/3D pre-engineered power distributor, with both system and engine focussed modifications, as above.

If Mahon emerges victorious, those who are specifically pledged to Mahon will also receive:​

• 40,000 merits,
• Mahon Powerplay banner cockpit customisation,

The two factions have set out two-week long operations to establish their positions in the system, which begin on the 22^nd of May 3311.​

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To be eligible for rewards you must sign up as an active participant before delivering Semiconductors, Ceramic Composites and Synthetic Fabrics to Bowersox Port in the Winiama system.​

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This is a competitive initiative and as such you may only sign up to one initiative at a time. You may switch sides at any time by abandoning the goal but note that any existing contributions you have made will be invalidated.​

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Commander power pledges will be taken as the pledged power at the time of initiative completion.​

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Be aware that faction-state changes and other disruptive events can negatively impact markets and station services, and could prevent the initiative from running smoothly.​

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Notes:

• Bowersox Port is orbiting planet 5
• Station services: Commodities Market, Shipyard, Outfitting, Repair, Restock, Refuel, Social Space, Material Trader (Manufactured)
• Prices at Bowersox Port:
  • Semiconductors: 59,620 Cr/Unit
  • Ceramic Composites: 22,110 Cr/Unit
  • Synthetic Fabrics: 19,470 Cr/Unit

Spoiler: Supply Stations

Last updated: 22/5 @ 09:00 UTC

Spoiler: Semiconductors

Spoiler: Ceramic Composites

Spoiler: Synthetic Fabrics

Latest status
Last updated: 5 Juney 9:00 UTC-finishedSIZE]

Current Progress:​	Current Participation Rewards:​
Global Progress: 188,111,232 units collected Contributors: 14,897 Reward Tier: 4/5 Global Reward: None listed	Top 10 CMDRs: 280,000,000 CR Top 25%: 230,000,000 CR Top 50%: 180,000,000 CR Top 75%: 145,000,000 CR Top 100%: 65,000,000 CR

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[Cmdr. Numa]

Sadly these competitive CGs are heavily skewed. Everyone not pledged to either of the involved powers will support whoever gets into the lead early on to get the double rewards.

 

[Kira Goto]

I say support Kaine [then, to get that early lead], because it's the better side than "corporate endorsement" Mahon... but I'm biased.

Also not everyone. At least me I won't support the old man because of the above, and I'm pledged to neither.

 

[kofeyh]

Sadly these competitive CGs are heavily skewed. Everyone not pledged to either of the involved powers will support whoever gets into the lead early on to get the double rewards.

CGs are almost always skewed. Be it combat, trade, mining or anything else. Given the rewards are based on percentages of involvement, and it's delivery, technically it's actually the reverse, the benefit is to back the worse performing of the two, as that reduces how much supply is required to hit top 75% and thus both rewards. CGs don't really fail at this point, as most all will hit the first tier.

 

[Outrunner85]

Sadly these competitive CGs are heavily skewed. Everyone not pledged to either of the involved powers will support whoever gets into the lead early on to get the double rewards.

Not those pledged to either one of these powers, they'll want the merits. Of course yes, the most popular power will likely win this, which I suppose is the point.

 

[Kira Goto]

Not those pledged to either one of these powers, they'll want the merits. Of course yes, the most popular power will likely win this, which I suppose is the point.

Which then just makes it actually non-competitive because everybody knows the outcome already when you compare Mahon to Kaine in Powerplay, by pure size.

The outcome of Kaine winning would be significantly more interesting, particularly with that recent kicking out of Sirius, but if it goes the usual way of "Randoms go the most obvious old way"... the CG might as well just have had one side to begin with, and it's not Kaine's.

 

[Outrunner85]

Which then just makes it actually non-competitive because everybody knows the outcome already when you compare Mahon to Kaine in Powerplay, by pure size.

The outcome of Kaine winning would be significantly more interesting, particularly with that recent kicking out of Sirius, but if it goes the usual way of "Randoms go the most obvious old way"... the CG might as well just have had one side to begin with, and it's not Kaine's.

You are not wrong.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Which then just makes it actually non-competitive because everybody knows the outcome already when you compare Mahon to Kaine in Powerplay, by pure size.

But that's primarily because Mahon inherited a very large position from Powerplay 1, Kaine was given a much smaller position as a new Power in Powerplay 2, and the nature of Powerplay is that those numbers don't change very fast.

LYR has gained systems about as fast as Mahon + Kaine combined (and would likely walkover win a CG versus either, or even both combined), but is still massively smaller than Mahon because that inherited position was substantial.

Given the rewards are based on percentages of involvement, and it's delivery, technically it's actually the reverse, the benefit is to back the worse performing of the two, as that reduces how much supply is required to hit top 75% and thus both rewards.

That makes very little difference, in practice. In the recent Grom vs Winters CG, Grom lost but had a higher 75% threshold and basically equal 50%/25% thresholds.

Similarly here - while it's early days, Kaine's tier thresholds are higher at top 25%, 50% and 75% levels. That doesn't overcome there being over twice as many people supporting Mahon.

 

[AceMcKool]

Here's the mandatory question:

Will these pre-engineered PDs accept experimental effects?

 

[St0rmFury]

Here's the mandatory question:

Will these pre-engineered PDs accept experimental effects?

Nope.

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

Can't see any use for Sys and Eng focused PD together for any of my ships, let alone 2 of each size module (10 unused modules?????), so going for Kaine, just for trade CR's, not interested in rewards modules.

Already have my Weapons Focused PD's for Mining, so no need for Eng and Sys focused. Got Eng focused for Exp DBX/Mandaly/etc.

 

[Go'Gen]

As non-Mahon and non-Kaine, should I assume that Mahon will be the winner, so I can start doing my part for modules?
Inara shows a bit of advantage already. o7

 

[Vlad plus]

As non-Mahon and non-Kaine, should I assume that Mahon will be the winner, so I can start doing my part for modules?
Inara shows a bit of advantage already. o7

I hope so , a one-jump flight for Semiconductors ~ 42 million and maybe a badge in the cockpit, that's already not bad

 

[Neilski]

Will these pre-engineered PDs accept experimental effects?

I'd have thought so, but...

Nope.

What makes you say not?

Edit: Ah, just spotted Phil's post in the other thread :

No experimental effects can be applied.

I could have sworn that most (all?) other pre-eng rewards have accepted exptls.

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

I could have sworn that most (all?) other pre-eng rewards have accepted exptls.

Some did and some did absolutely not.

 

[g0oglyeyes]

That kind of makes these power distributors worthless? Focused engineering comes with penalties for the other 2 allotments, and these modifiers are multiplicative. So we end up with:

SYS + ENG capacity: +36%
SYS + ENG recharge: +22.4%
WEP capacity: -27.8%
WEP recharge: -9.8%
Ineligible for experimental effect

Where would I possibly see a use for this? An extremely lightweight exploration ship with undersized modules needs ENG focused to boost with the minimal sized distro, but you just nerfed the actual ENG focused portion with the penalty from SYS focused. For any other purpose, Charge Enhanced gives you more to work with period. Who thought this up???

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

Charge Enhanced gives you more to work with period. Who thought this up???

Yep, Charge Enhanced is very good overall over 3 sys, eng and wep so where is the advantage?

 

[forbiddenlake]

That kind of makes these power distributors worthless? Focused engineering comes with penalties for the other 2 allotments, and these modifiers are multiplicative. So we end up with:

SYS + ENG capacity: +36%
SYS + ENG recharge: +22.4%
WEP capacity: -27.8%
WEP recharge: -9.8%
Ineligible for experimental effect

Where would I possibly see a use for this? An extremely lightweight exploration ship with undersized modules needs ENG focused to boost with the minimal sized distro, but you just nerfed the actual ENG focused portion with the penalty from SYS focused. For any other purpose, Charge Enhanced gives you more to work with period. Who thought this up???

I love split discussions... not.
Your numbers are off, see the other thread, though your conclusion isn't necessarily. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/support-nakato-kaine-in-trade-war-trade.637815/#post-10634275

 

[g0oglyeyes]

I love split discussions... not.
Your numbers are off, see the other thread, though your conclusion isn't necessarily. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/support-nakato-kaine-in-trade-war-trade.637815/#post-10634275

I ran my calculation assuming twin G5 based on what you would normally get from The Dweller. Looking over at the official response, it looks like these PDs have hand-tweaked, unique stats. In any case, I still can't find a reason to equip my ships with them. If they paired Charge Enhanced with any of the Focused, or even High Charge Capacity with any of the Focused, I would.

 

[Shaurin]

waiting for a CG that the princess is involved, specially if is against the feds.. that is going to be interesting..