ACTIVE CG Support Edmund Mahon in trade war (Trade)

waiting for a CG that the princess is involved, specially if is against the feds.. that is going to be interesting..
Nope. Not interesting. Will still be the same. Players will flock to one side and the event will end and everyone gets a participation trophy lol. What NEEDS to happen is the introduction of consequence. "IF the players go this route for the shiny, they will miss out on XYZ." Or maybe one reward focusing on one style of play vs another of a diff style of play. Make it a real competition.
 
Nope. Not interesting. Will still be the same. Players will flock to one side and the event will end and everyone gets a participation trophy lol. What NEEDS to happen is the introduction of consequence. "IF the players go this route for the shiny, they will miss out on XYZ." Or maybe one reward focusing on one style of play vs another of a diff style of play. Make it a real competition.

Frontier used to have failing CGs. Can you guess what happened. Take a guess. Shouldn't take many to work it.

(Hint: cmdrs hate consequences.)
 
"IF the players go this route for the shiny, they will miss out on XYZ." Or maybe one reward focusing on one style of play vs another of a diff style of play. Make it a real competition.
In this case, nothing will be lost, PD is semi-useless, competition for the flag in the cockpit 🚩
 
Sorry, must have missed it in the last CG... can we sign up for both sides on this one, or will signing to another side cancel the first one?
Tbh thinking about making a quick delivery for the other side and grab some level 1 coin there, too.
Yeah, a bit immoral, but not much.

Edit: Thanks for the reply @Ashnak . My bad. That one sentence was under my "... ok etc ... blahblah". Ashamed a bit.
 
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Sorry, must have missed it in the last CG... can we sign up for both sides on this one, or will signing to another side cancel the first one?
Tbh thinking about making a quick delivery for the other side and grab some level 1 coin there, too.
Yeah, a bit immoral, but not much.
Did you read the OP?
This is a competitive initiative and as such you may only sign up to one initiative at a time. You may switch sides at any time by abandoning the goal but note that any existing contributions you have made will be invalidated.
 
It's definitely not a contest the way things are trending unfortunately.

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Well that last Powerplay CG had week 2 add some "spice" which resulted in Frontier taking the outcome as "system went back to Powerplay unoccupied" so there might be something for this one as well.

... I'm almost sure half of those Mahon "supporters" are just doing it because they get an extra reward supporting the "winner" that is too easily decided right in the beginning stages by offering a non-Powerplay extra for winning. Or just for the credits. Take notes if you want it to be actually competitive, Frontier, not "Steamrolls all around because the reward structure encourages picking one side purely for them".

Still going to do it for Kaine because of possible story implications if enough support is shown.
 
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Still going to do it for Kaine because of possible story implications if enough support is shown.

It also doesn't help that a good chunk of the Kaine followers are actually very pro-Mahon, so minimal motivation to push hard to make it a real contest. Not too long ago I was told by one such that the lore where Kaine is antagonistic towards Mahon didn't matter at all 🤷‍♂️
 
Well that last Powerplay CG had week 2 add some "spice" which resulted in Frontier taking the outcome as "system went back to Powerplay unoccupied" so there might be something for this one as well.
I'm not sure Frontier touched the Powerplay state of that system manually at all at any point

Starts: unoccupied, with only Grom, Winters and Archer in range to claim
Week 1: CG participation (and related activities) boosts Winters more than Grom, Winters takes the system, Archer well behind, contributions from the other nine powers irrelevant
Week 2: CG participation (and related activities) can be an undermining action for 11 powers and a reinforcing action just for Winters, Winters loses the system again

Mining is unusual in that it's a CG action and a reinforcing action and an undermining action - for trade or bounty CGs, the CG action reinforces but cannot undermine, so as we see here both powers have reinforced control of their CG system even though they're theoretically facing a lot more undermining players (including the interesting touch that each CG is in a system of the opposite power).

It also doesn't help that a good chunk of the Kaine followers are actually very pro-Mahon, so minimal motivation to push hard to make it a real contest. Not too long ago I was told by one such that the lore where Kaine is antagonistic towards Mahon didn't matter at all
Also the CGs don't have any obvious Powerplay effects
- you get 5 bonus ranks if your side wins, but that's mostly out of your control and most of the serious "in it for the Power" CMDRs will have got rank 100 anyway by now.
- there's no bonus to the power as a whole for winning, or indeed penalty for losing, so if you want your Power to win systems you can just keep doing that for two weeks.
- it's not even all that likely to change ownership of either CG system, and even if it does it's only one system

I think they're more to potentially attract newer players into Powerplay and encourage them to pick a side.
 
I'm not sure Frontier touched the Powerplay state of that system manually at all at any point
They did not, I’m pretty sure. Rather they took the outcome of that second week to let it go unoccupied, rather than Winters winning [the CG] and coming out with it. Of course Winters may get it this week instead if they win the race against Archer, so… shrug
 
I say support Kaine [then, to get that early lead], because it's the better side than "corporate endorsement" Mahon... but I'm biased.

Also not everyone. At least me I won't support the old man because of the above, and I'm pledged to neither.
Too much folks have a tendency to outright forget the actual codex of Mahon and Lakon case, quick reminder, Mahon started as a lawyer specilized in corporate abuse and worker right, before switching to politics when he discovered the corruption within the profession.

As for Lakon, I remind you that Kaine was absolutely against for the Alliance buying them.
Mahon and Kaine seek the same thinks, reinforce the Alliance, but they want do it in very different way.
Kaine seek to reinforce the Alliance inward, relying exclusively of the member system of the Alliance do do it, she is an isolationist.
Mahon seek to reinforce the Alliance outward, by integrating new members system by trade deal and acqusition of corporation, he is an expensionist.

A narrative evolution which could make sense if Mahon win the CG is that Falcon Delacy may eventualy replace Sirius for the job, why them?
Because Falcon Delacy (which is an indy corp) is based in Reorte, the most vocal system which was against the Sirius deal to begin with and it's an Alliance system, having Falcon Delacy starting to get closer to the Alliance would be the most symbolic conclusion of Mahon victory of his policy, right into the heart of the system which contested him the most.
 
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Mahon started as a lawyer specilized in corporate abuse and worker right, before switching to politics when he discovered the corruption within the profession.
And then he just let the biggest, most corrupt corporation of them all that will outright bully smaller corporations into buyouts or make opposing voices face mysteriously convenient deaths, then take over, walk right into the Alliance’s house?

Yeah… sure… I’m not sure that the old man’s still the same. Saying that, I would not care (nearly) as much if it weren’t for the whole Sirius deal.
 
And then he just let the biggest, most corrupt corporation of them all that will outright bully smaller corporations into buyouts or make opposing voices face mysteriously convenient deaths, then take over, walk right into the Alliance’s house?

Yeah… sure… I’m not sure that the old man’s still the same. Saying that, I would not care (nearly) as much if it weren’t for the whole Sirius deal.
Did Achiles has been buyed by Sirius? Nop
What is sure is that the Sirius deal is now meaningless and needed to end, even most Mahonist are agree on that.
 
FDev should follow up on the Achilles Vs Sirius plot line soon. With the latter hemorrhaging profits and influence, it's becoming questionable if LYR can even maintain it's status as a Power.

Unless there's a plot twist of course 😉
 
Did Achiles has been buyed by Sirius? Nop
And evidently Achilles is not a small company even before its extreme (and sudden) success with the SCO drive. The skimmers you see all over the place? Made by them (if I recall correctly). They also apparently have a business in androids, not that we ever see those in-game. Not walking around, anyway.
 
And evidently Achilles is not a small company even before its extreme (and sudden) success with the SCO drive. The skimmers you see all over the place? Made by them (if I recall correctly). They also apparently have a business in androids, not that we ever see those in-game. Not walking around, anyway.
I was saying that because Achilles is a de facto Alliance corp, there birthplace and HQ being Alioth system
 
FDev should follow up on the Achilles Vs Sirius plot line soon. With the latter hemorrhaging profits and influence, it's becoming questionable if LYR can even maintain it's status as a Power.
Don't you dare touch my power. I don't want to do the merit grind for the module access twice. I'd have much preferred the modules had been removed from Powerplay and being offered through other channels, but it is what it is.
 
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