System Authority Ships in Anarchy system
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I've never seen an anarchy system have police response. There would need to be crime reported for that to occur. I've killed countless passenger ships in these systems and have never seen an authority vessel responding to it.
Why would authority exist in anarchy? It seems to defy the definition of disorder and non-recognition or absence of authority.
From ED Wiki (or whatever it's called)
A star system with a controlling Anarchy minor faction allows crimes to be committed without consequence. The system security level is also set to Anarchy, there are no System Authority Vessels present, and no ship will show as "wanted" unless scanned with a Kill Warrant Scanner. Anarchy minor factions are usually criminal organizations with internal arbitrary rule systems that do not apply to outsiders. Traders and travelers passing through Anarchy systems should be wary of interdictions and unprovoked attacks. Conversely, many combat-oriented pilots travel to Anarchy systems specifically hunt other ships without penalty.
Uninhabited systems are also classified as Anarchy systems as even though there is no trace of civilization, security forces have no reason to be stationed there or patrol the area.
Why would authority exist in anarchy? It seems to defy the definition of disorder and non-recognition or absence of authority.
From ED Wiki (or whatever it's called)
A star system with a controlling Anarchy minor faction allows crimes to be committed without consequence. The system security level is also set to Anarchy, there are no System Authority Vessels present, and no ship will show as "wanted" unless scanned with a Kill Warrant Scanner. Anarchy minor factions are usually criminal organizations with internal arbitrary rule systems that do not apply to outsiders. Traders and travelers passing through Anarchy systems should be wary of interdictions and unprovoked attacks. Conversely, many combat-oriented pilots travel to Anarchy systems specifically hunt other ships without penalty.
Uninhabited systems are also classified as Anarchy systems as even though there is no trace of civilization, security forces have no reason to be stationed there or patrol the area.
Were you in a jurisdiction within that system controlled by a lawful faction?
Also note... some USS "spawn" system authority ships controlled by the system controllers... in anarchy systems, they will belong to an anarchy faction.
Also note... there may be an underlying relationship to ethos (hidden from the game). Not all Anarchy factions have the Criminal ethos... in particular some PMFs don't have that (so; their mission boards generate "lawful" missions, rather than criminal ones)
There used to be a bug where Sysauth ships would spawn in supercruise in anarchies, if you can repro it report it.
However, if in normal space, as somebody pointed out, double check the jurisdiction you're in. The system might be controlled by an anarchy faction (which isn't meant to spawn Sysauth ships), but pocket of space inside the system may belong to other factions which do police their space, but the likelihood of an interdiction ending in such a pocket is very slim.
However, if in normal space, as somebody pointed out, double check the jurisdiction you're in. The system might be controlled by an anarchy faction (which isn't meant to spawn Sysauth ships), but pocket of space inside the system may belong to other factions which do police their space, but the likelihood of an interdiction ending in such a pocket is very slim.
Anarchy in Elite is not really an Anarchy. It's more 'Mob rule', 'Crime Syndicate, or 'Mafia' system. So I take authority ships as enforcers for said groups.
That said, I could see how a true Anarchy might have its own protection. An Anarchy is a lack an any form of central government. That does not equal chaos and violence. An Anarchy might be perfectly safe and peaceful, due to the people being in it being heavily armed and banding together to put down any threats with extreme prejudice.
That said, I could see how a true Anarchy might have its own protection. An Anarchy is a lack an any form of central government. That does not equal chaos and violence. An Anarchy might be perfectly safe and peaceful, due to the people being in it being heavily armed and banding together to put down any threats with extreme prejudice.
The sys auth ship who helped me fight off mission target belonged to PMF who controlled the system.
Sounding more like non-criminal-ethos Anarchy
There should be No Master rank in anarchy systems.
No God either.
Actually does anyone know if Braben is on record as being an atheist?
The game doesn't give much airtime to theocracies, and is pretty dismissive of cults.
I just kind of think if Braben bent his knee to the lord, then we'd get a more kinda handmaids tale kinda future.
No God either.
Actually does anyone know if Braben is on record as being an atheist?
The game doesn't give much airtime to theocracies, and is pretty dismissive of cults.
I just kind of think if Braben bent his knee to the lord, then we'd get a more kinda handmaids tale kinda future.
I can confirm when a pirate shot me within no fire zone, authority ships in an anarchy system were spawned.
Also, when a mission target and pirate interdicted me in anarchy system, the lawless pirate helped me to fight off mission target first.
Last but not least, when I was farming merits in an anarchy system controlled by Archon, his Kumo Crew called the police
Also, when a mission target and pirate interdicted me in anarchy system, the lawless pirate helped me to fight off mission target first.
Last but not least, when I was farming merits in an anarchy system controlled by Archon, his Kumo Crew called the police
Star Ports seem to be an exception as no matter what they have an anti-crime patrol to atop anything that might disrupt star port activitiesI can confirm when a pirate shot me within no fire zone, authority ships in an anarchy system were spawned.
Also, when a mission target and pirate interdicted me in anarchy system, the lawless pirate helped me to fight off mission target first.
Last but not least, when I was farming merits in an anarchy system controlled by Archon, his Kumo Crew called the police
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every system with a population has a system authority and each station has its own system authority which belongs to the faction controlling the station.
so depending on where in a system you are you might have the system authority or a local faction authority.
not always the same thing as system security and even that can vary depending on system state as well as power play control
so depending on where in a system you are you might have the system authority or a local faction authority.
not always the same thing as system security and even that can vary depending on system state as well as power play control
As Cmdr Milesred said, the system's security status is not the only factor. The more important question is that of local jurisdiction. An anarchy system can still have pockets of policed spaces inside it, around stations and surface installations controlled by factions that are not anarchy. Outside of these pockets however, no authority ship will spawn, as the jurisdiction defaults to anarchy.
If you got shot at near a station and the police stepped in to help you, that's because the station wasn't lawless.
Last but not least, when I was farming merits in an anarchy system controlled by Archon, his Kumo Crew called the police
If the local jurisdiction was lawless (again, local jurisdiction is not necessarily the same as the system's) and the police actually showed up (as opposed to it just being an empty threat by the NPC), you need to report it as a bug.
This is not a horror game.