OP - Beta backers have this. Havent you got it?
System map overhaul needed
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Btw, guys, let's do the walk - drop your suggestions from *current* gameplay point of view for Orrery map here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/388279-Pitch-for-Orrery-map?p=6093435 this is thread in suggestions forum where devs read all posts.
I do agree with that, and while I would be happy to have it as an aid for exploration, I can really see it being used for all areas of the game.
Squadrons with their fleet carriers jumping to a strategic place using the orrey map would be very useful. At the moment, there is just no way to do this. This is one example and there are plenty of others on this thread.
CMDR Thrust says it's great.
While all the information may be available via text, it's more accessible to be able to absorb that information visually. The orrery view was dangled by FD, so it's not surprising there is a demand for it.
You guys wouldn't like to know where each body is in relation to the others? You wouldn't want to know before you accept a second missoin to the same system that the 2 bodies which neighbour each other in the current map aren't on opposite sides of the system? You wouldn't like to plan your planetary scan routes better when exploring? All these people crying that exploring needs more love, THIS is what they're talking about amongst other things.
For me this is one of the biggest QoL changes needed. Even if it is a nice 2d diagram, top down view of the current system configuration (I know that would have limitations too, but it would be much better than what we have), showing where the planets are in their orbits and giving a better visual cue on distances.
Of course we would like to see that.
But it is one of those things where there is always something more important to implement. I do hope FD finds the time to work on this, of course.
I'd guess this would entail a mammoth task. So mammoth that even other mammoths would exclaim. Wow, thats big. Every system map would need to be fluid to be able to produce the orrery on demand at any given time. Thats 400 billion systems constantly updating on the system map. So that whenever you opened it, it represented how that system is at that particular moment. Therefore the system map application would be a continually calculating tool or would seek to look up data from the bgs at the instance of launching the system map. I suspect this would be a pain in the , cause delays and people would in time moan about it on here.
I have no problem with the simple interface as it stands.
I have no problem with the simple interface as it stands.
Originally the Orrery is what Frontier wanted in the game, but right before 1.0 they announced that Elite would ship with the flat system map and the Orrery would come at a later date. Now, 3 years later, Frontier seems to not have it planned at all anymore.
It is 'planned' as being on 'todo list'. It isn't planned for Beyond though.
As I've said at tedious length before, apart from all the obvious loveliness you'd get from an Orrery View, it would also be the ideal place to visualise system states, the relationship between factions, traffic and many other things. There are all sorts of clever things going on with the BGS that at the moment are just presented as text in menus that you'd be forgiven for not noticing. If you could actually see where battles are taking place and how ships are moving around in a system in a sort of "strategic view" it would bring already existing stuff to life. I was half-way through doing mock ups of how this sort of thing could look before real life got in the way but will revisit if I ever get a chance!
EDIT: I do wonder if the main reason this hasn't been done is that by clearly visualising everything you actually expose weaknesses in the way it's all implemented. So doing it would mean having to revamp lots of other complicated things.
EDIT: I do wonder if the main reason this hasn't been done is that by clearly visualising everything you actually expose weaknesses in the way it's all implemented. So doing it would mean having to revamp lots of other complicated things.
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Of course we would like to see that.
But it is one of those things where there is always something more important to implement. I do hope FD finds the time to work on this, of course.
I do agree, which is why my left eye starts twitching every time someone mentions space legs or atmo landings. Like we need those in the game right now. Mercy.
I'd settle for a different 2d representation, top down, with real positions of planets!
[video=youtube;zIV4poUZAQo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIV4poUZAQo[/video]
We are the Knights Who Say "NI!"
We want.... An orrery!
Thank you! It seems like a no brainer that his would be way more useful to everyone than an extra ship or fancy seat cover. I care nothing about either of the new ships announced.
I doubt any Orrery Map would ever show ships in flight (other than your own position, and maybe wingmate positions), and honestly I don't think it should (that's what the radar is for), but it could easily show shipping lanes and such.
Its a bit depressing looking back at some of these pictures because it reminds me of what I thought the game was going to be..
Somehow the game has failed to meet the expectations which stuff like this set:
[video=youtube_share;VE8B4KptyVI]https://youtu.be/VE8B4KptyVI[/video]
Too much got lost on the 'cutting room floor'..
Well, anyone who wants an orrery map of THIS level of precision can just fly 20kLs up and look at the system from above.
Orrery map is much desired feature yet to be implemented by FD. Recent thread disappointed us a bit with Dale saying it is not on map for Beyond
However people have mentioned lot of reasons why it would be good to have orrery. Just add voice for it and hopefully devs will notice.
As much as needed
Did they really say it isn't much of an improvement? Because if the Orrery displays the current constellation of system bodies it's far easier to scan all bodies during exploration trips. Shame, really.
Where's this to do list you keep referring to?