Anything. reproducing bugs, testing out a build, trying out changes to a mechanic or new mechanics and how it will effect your game play, testing out the self destruct for the hell of it. ANYTHING.
Test Server Access?
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Anything. reproducing bugs, testing out a build, trying out changes to a mechanic or new mechanics and how it will effect your game play, testing out the self destruct for the hell of it. ANYTHING.
Not me, maybe the op. I have no problem not being able to test, and am grateful there are testers that catch the majority of bugs. My only point is that more testers = less bugs. Glad you have more to be able to test with them transferring credits.
Nope, thats not what this thread is about. To quote OP:
When are Betas going to made open to the public OR at the very least Beta accesses be purchasable by those of us who only learned of this games existence recently?
Since Betas are about bug reporting and making sure the features are complete and balanced BEFORE they go Live I would think they would want as many people as possible to test these things out to avoid issues.
So its not about the general availability of a test server, its about public access to the beta test. Seems you dont know what your point actually is...
Now THAT is very VERY true!
Sounds like you should apply for a qa job at frontier. What you describe is not what beta testing is for. It's for getting balance and load. It's why mp games normally have them.
Why ?
You sound like a crying 6 year old.
It is how it is so grow a pair and get over it.
Look, it's pretty simple, they copy our live accounts, we get a discount on ships and weapons modules that need to be tested '100 credits' Once they have enough feedback they shutdown the test server and release the update.
It doesn't need to be open to everyone, if it was, the bulk of people would just use it an excuse to fly around in whatever ship they want. The devs are getting good feedback as it is, and from experienced users that have been in the game before release, and users that fully understand the mechanics (good or bad). It seems lessons where learnt from the 1.1 testing period, it's an ongoing learning curve.
Yes I do, I was using lingo, because on this board when referencing the Beta Server, that's the Test Server. I've already PMed a mod to update my thread title accordingly.
In some games, specifically (F2P), PTS access is sometimes sold as a extra, for free accounts per se, so that may have added to the confusion, in which case I apologize. That is why about half way down the first page I changed my wording. Threads are conversations and they can evolve and refine over time. please be aware of that.
But my overall point is still valid, that the Test Server, should be opened up for the purposes of testing, even between content releases. Especially since certain things can be expensive to test over on live, like testing exactly how much damage say, an anaconda can take with Weapon XXX before exploding. things like that.
I don't feel he was pounced on at all. He was throwing a bit of a tantrum and was spoken to in a no nonsense way. Though I do agree that the test server should be open to more, I do see how that would open up more problems for FD.
Why would FD need you to test that? That sounds like you testing it for your own benefit, not FD.
Nope, on this board, beta means beta. It doesn't refer to a test server in the way you seem to want Frontier to provide. Youll also have to get the mod to change what you said in the first post to match what you have the thread title changed to.
You want access to the beta server (notice how i refer to it as the beta server, not the test server)? Tough, you didnt pay the right amount of money at the right time. Its how it is. Moaning and being patronising wont change that.
Some of us paid quite a bit of money so that you even have a game to be able to play.
Rather than moaning, you should perhaps be saying "thank you".
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The test environment is limited in capacity, it makes no sense to buy more from Amazon when they have enough people testing. There may come a time when FD do offer beta passes for non-backer/alpha/beta/mercenary testers, but it will always be gated.
I know, right.
That may be the difference. I for one was in before release but have no want to play beta releases. I waited almost 30 years for this game and wanted to support FD before release. Now saying that I have seen many a bug that should have been caught in a testing environment before it was allowed to go public. Maybe that is FD not listening to the testers, or maybe its not enough testers playing "beta" releases. All I know is there are a lot of online MMO, pvp, etc games that have an open test server. I for one don't understand (not that I have to) why FD wouldn't want as many people testing as they could get.
I do thank the testers for their time and effort as quite a few bugs are caught this way.
I guess if everyone had access to beta patches then they arent beta patches are they, they are simply untested early released patches. Theres a historic closed alpha / beta list that was assembled a long time ago, it has nothing to do now with who paid for what. Its entirely dependant on server capacity and FDev number requirements.
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Perhaps the bug you think should be caught in beta actually ARE caught in beta, but take a while to track down and fix? when it comes to testing software, finding bugs can be the easy part. Replicating, determining the scope of the pre-reqs for the bug, the circumstances when it can happen, producing the root cause analysis, then adding into the queue basedon impact and severity all has to be done before fixing. The when the bug comes to the top of the queue to be fixed it then has to be unit, integtration and fucntionally tested and then regression tested, then scheduled for release, packaged and released, fixing the bug can take a long period of time.
Just because bugs arent fixed immeadiatley doesnt mean they arent being fixed or worked on.
There is no test server.
You won't get access into any of the beta tests unless FD change their policy.
Why?
Because FD decided that only those who paid for Alpha and Beta development phases before release will have access to any future beta builds. It's usually only for a week to allow testing to occur.
If you chose to not be part of the Alpha or Beta phases, or you had no opportunity, or you missed the opportunity, then I'm afraid you're out of luck.
What does the amount of money you paid have to do with anything? I'm not talking about honing in on your swag, which is what it is, in game, out of game, it's all swag, that is NOT what I'm talking about, I even said that in my OP, I'm talking about an open Test Server, and I referred to it as the Beta server, because that's what OTHER players have called it.
I keep hearing about I paid this money, I paid that money, wah wah wah. If anything You and people like you sound like the 6 year old, who doesn't want to share his toys.
I'm gonna say this one more time, I DON'T WANT YOUR STUFF.
What I do want is an open test server, so people can test thing out for themselves instead of having to read about them on the forums as second and third hand information. How are people supposed to adjust their play style if they can't try things out before it launches and plan for them.
how can people test whether or not a certain build is good for them BEFORE they grind a bunch of credits and time for them. Especially since there are many players who's time is limited and have real life work, so it would be good to know that the grinding that's being done on live is for something they ultimately want anyway.
More over, when major content releases DO come out, wouldn't it be better if you have all hands on deck to test the crap out of it for bugs before it releases, so we don't repeat the 1.1 debacle, with showstopper bugs. And those weren't even the worst kind of showstoppers.
I don't understand why there is this resistance to such a simple idea other then the fact that you perceive it as a slight against your "status" and that you see it as something that belongs to you. How childish is that?
There is no resistance.
What it is is people wanting access to things that we paid for, without them paying anything.
That's the unfair part.
My suggestion is to stop wanting things for free that others have paid for.
What it is is people wanting access to things that we paid for, without them paying anything.
That's the unfair part.
My suggestion is to stop wanting things for free that others have paid for.