Thank you for the reminder

I bet it's getting as old as Elite FdLs and Condas wanting to kill you for 4t of worthless mission reward cargo.

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Or you rebuy, which expires it.

I have never willingly allowed any of my vessels to be destroyed. The closest I've ever come to doing so were the PvP matches where I was flying as an extra for ToC against RSM. We lost, and it felt better to go down swinging than run away from an organized match after being the last one standing on my side...not that I could have run far, I was using an undersized FSD for mass reasons and only had 35 minutes of fuel each time (again for mass reasons).

I have 20 rebuys total. 8 of them are SRVs from when SRV destruction was a rebuy screen, and none of those were intentional either (it's almost inevitable to lose some when you put thousands of km of driving in).

In general, if my ship goes down it's because I made a very rare and very serious mistake and/or because my foes really earned it. My CMDR doesn't risk his life to even magical ejection seats on a whim.

The thing is EVEN IF YOU WANT TO, you can't RP pirate, because you don't HAVE the mechanisms to do so. Not merely no crime and punishment to make you weigh up your crime spree vs the mayhem or profit, but there's no way to limit yourself to that.

I agree, and I've mentioned piracy being a farce in ED more than a few times.

I'm not blaming you for not being an RP pirate: it's just not possible. Even if you limited yourself voluntarily to Anarchy systems, you will find engineers impossible to play for, Powerplay gone, most of the good ships or upgrades "hidden" either in law abiding systems or behind a wall of them in another anarchy system.

I've never tried to be a pirate, nor do I have such aspirations. I would like piracy to be more viable than it is, so it doesn't just seem like a poor caricature, but have no particular desire to engage in it.

When I shoot at people it's because they did something to offend me, not because I want their useless junk.

Or just do what ever you want do do in the system next to the one where you are wanted… ;)

Or in the system where I am wanted.

It's not like the wanted tag means much other than it's prudent to dump a heatsink once I get within sensor range of a starport's security.
 
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I don't think there's a need to go to CGs in Solo... furthermore i think CGs etc shouldnt even be allowed in Solo, but that's not a discussion for today.

On a real note though: One should go to a CG "prepared", meaning don't fly in a shieldless ship to maximize profits, and then wonder why somebody would see that as easy target.
Rather pack big shields and 1 SCB module, be aware of the hollow squares and triangles, high wake if needed - hell the other day 1 Python trolled me pretty much by dropping from S/C & low waking whenever i made my move to interdict [1st time i was actively seeking for player engagement tbh]

I'm not implying that OP is flying around shieldless at CGs, but unfortunately a lot of CMDRs do - and then they come whine about how super cruel open is etc.
 
I have never willingly allowed any of my vessels to be destroyed.

Never said you did. I DID say that there is actually NO MECHANIC for you to play pirate. And one example is that you die and you face the rebuy screen and the rep is gone. Whether or not someone tries to defend themselves, that's the mechanic. With the best will in the world, unless you name your character "Pegleg Pete The PvP Pirate", nobody will know you are a pirate if the bounty has gone.

And when you rebuy, you won't necessarily get the ship you want in the statin you want, so you go to some Imperial or Federation secure high tech system, buy your ship, and there's no background checks. Only when what you want is also available in low-sec and Anarchy ports can you even play this.

And I bet you don't. Even though you try to live as piratey as you can, the game won't let you.

So solo.

(for the other poster: if goals or whatever are hidden behind Open Only, then why not take the whole game with you and stop pretending you're not taking ownership of Elite. At least be honest)

Coffee gone, so gotta put the new graphics card in the PC.
 
I'm not implying that OP is flying around shieldless at CGs, but unfortunately a lot of CMDRs do - and then they come whine about how super cruel open is etc.

On a related tangent:

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I strongly suspect that some of the CMDRs present there would have had a fit if the CMDR I encountered about five minutes previously and was asking them about had encountered them first. Not even the most basic defensive precautions taken. Just glancing at the area I could tell that there were three unoccupied ships on the ground (three sets of lamps on the surface means at least three SRVs). Anyone with the mind to do so could have come across these CMDRs and sent them all to the rebuy screen in seconds.
 
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I strongly suspect that some of the CMDRs present there would have had a fit if the CMDR I encountered about five minutes previously and was asking them about had encountered them first. Not even the most basic defensive precautions taken. Just glancing at the area I could tell that there were three unoccupied ships on the ground (three sets of lamps on the surface means at least three SRVs). Anyone with the mind to do so could have come across these CMDRs and sent them all to the rebuy screen in seconds.

And would they have learned anything from that? Nope. Most likely they would have just resorted to the typical response of coming here to the forum for a bout of hand wringing.
 
And would they have learned anything from that? Nope. Most likely they would have just resorted to the typical response of coming here to the forum for a bout of hand wringing.

Surviving hostile attacks while investigating surface ruins should be a tutorial mission.

Game would probably need some real AI first though.
 
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I strongly suspect that some of the CMDRs present there would have had a fit if the CMDR I encountered about five minutes previously and was asking them about had encountered them first. Not even the most basic defensive precautions taken. Just glancing at the area I could tell that there were three unoccupied ships on the ground (three sets of lamps on the surface means at least three SRVs). Anyone with the mind to do so could have come across these CMDRs and sent them all to the rebuy screen in seconds.

I know exactly what you mean and would've thought the same.. but my ship got destroyed once while i was in my SRV [whole small outpost i raided was a trespass zone and my ship was parked pretty close coz lazy].
While i was expecting a rebuy screen i actually spawned right into my orbiting ship and just lost that SRV i was in at the time of ship destruction.

Now i'm all confused about the whole issue of what happens [and what SHOULD happen] when your ship gets destroyed while in a SRV.. Is there a difference between player caused destruction vs outpost/npc caused destruction?


Also, pls don't answer and just ignore if this counts as hijacking the thread.
 
Read the OP, skipped to the end, I fly in open from time to time, but as I live and work down the bottom of the bubble I never see a soul, If im heading into the centre or I fancy CG which isn't often TBH. Always make sure I have a look and then look again ..S O L O check. :)
 
I haven't seen a shieldless trader complaining about destruction on these forums in months. I would go so far as to say a year or more if I had to make a reckoning. The whining trader flying without shields is not a concern anymore. Let it drop. How long can you base your game outlook, on a thing of the past?
 
I haven't seen a shieldless trader complaining about destruction on these forums in months. I would go so far as to say a year or more if I had to make a reckoning. The whining trader flying without shields is not a concern anymore. Let it drop. How long can you base your game outlook, on a thing of the past?

We have to keep up the pressure or they may return.
 
I know exactly what you mean and would've thought the same.. but my ship got destroyed once while i was in my SRV [whole small outpost i raided was a trespass zone and my ship was parked pretty close coz lazy].
While i was expecting a rebuy screen i actually spawned right into my orbiting ship and just lost that SRV i was in at the time of ship destruction.

Sounds like a bug. If your ship is destroyed, you are supposed to be trapped in the SRV until it's destroyed via some means (self destruct, running out of fuel, taking a header into a canyon, whatever), then you should be at the rebuy screen for your whole ship.

There was a known issue where people can cheat their way out of a rebuy by loading the non-Horizons version of the game while in the SRV and this would just put them in their ship like nothing happened. I'm not sure if this was ever patched.

I haven't seen a shieldless trader complaining about destruction on these forums in months. I would go so far as to say a year or more if I had to make a reckoning. The whining trader flying without shields is not a concern anymore. Let it drop. How long can you base your game outlook, on a thing of the past?

Hmm, maybe people are starting to learn.
 
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How long can you base your game outlook, on a thing of the past?

Oh, that's a good one! I'm going to have to take it out of context to use it in other threads where people lament about how the game used to be and how it is now. Thanks man.
 
Usually I don't fly in open that much but I decided to give it a try again and went there. As I arrived to system I noticed couple of FdL circling around, probably waiting to interdict players in transport ships as they were not interested in my cargo-less vulture. Went to do some RES hunting, seen couple of commanders there before I head in to station to cash the vouchers. Swarm of players around planet and station... almost no docking position left on station (first time ever to wait for docking position). Everything was full of FdL, FAS and Vultures. Noticed only one player in T6, probably the bravest commander of all of us... Not sure how successful "delivery" part of CG was with all those FdL flying around. I guess CG is great way to have player to player interaction, but IMHO to meet another commander far away from bubble would be probably more rewarding experience and would probably not ended with killed without reason scenario.
 
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Is "Don't play in Open because it's full of peckerheads" on the list too?

That's on the "how to never meet peckerheads list". This is the "how to survive peckerheads list".

You can do anything and everything in Open and be largely safe, if one is willing to take a few basic precautions. If one isn't, then you get to the "Don't play in Open" part.
 
That's on the "how to never meet peckerheads list". This is the "how to survive peckerheads list".

You can do anything and everything in Open and be largely safe, if one is willing to take a few basic precautions. If one isn't, then you get to the "Don't play in Open" part.

Fair enough...
Though the mindset of attacking players out of their ships exploring on the ground mystifies me.
 
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