The 65000 LY from Sol Club

[Arnoldo]

A good evening considering I only meant to have half an hours play

Total Travelled now: 206,711
Kano: 44,230
Abyss Crossing: 14,995
Beagle Point: 28,192
Farthest Out: 44,361
Current Grid: 14670;175;41910

Hope some of the other nearest 7 have run out of fuel, stopped for a picnic, had a close encounter with Thargoids or rocky things etc.

best wishes Cdrs...

 

[CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI]

A good evening considering I only meant to have half an hours play

Total Travelled now: 206,711
Kano: 44,230
Abyss Crossing: 14,995
Beagle Point: 28,192
Farthest Out: 44,361
Current Grid: 14670;175;41910

Hope some of the other nearest 7 have run out of fuel, stopped for a picnic, had a close encounter with Thargoids or rocky things etc.

best wishes Cdrs...

Updating, and would give rep but i can't. I've sniped you in a thread and you are amongst the most frequent reporters. BTW, you jumped in 3rd position, but take your time. It's not a race and you will be in the first 50 anyway.

 

[CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI]

I have a question for club members. ow that boosts are introduced I fear some CMDR would boost their way out, take a pic to submit a new record, and then self destruct.
I don't like such a thing becouse it's against any possible RP, so my idea would be to accept a new record only when a proof that it was not a suicide attempt is made. Like posting a pic with yur position back where star density is good, with a subsequent date. Not to heavy checking and rules, ones that wanna fake it can fake it all, but at least that would disencourage normal players to do suicide attempts. What do you think, dear club members?

As a subsequent note soon Horizon will go live. I will not make a new list. The list shall go on in chronological order. Allitnil preboost distance record will forever be engraved in the list with a special colour (was thinking at orange), post horizon record will be in red, no matter if it was achieved with boosts or without. What do you think?

I'm a keeper, not a king, your suggestions are of uttermost importance.

 

[Jim Steinman]

Small update from me, had a little time to play today so I'm now past Sag.A and 31k ly out from Sol.

 

[Allitnil]

I have a question for club members. ow that boosts are introduced I fear some CMDR would boost their way out, take a pic to submit a new record, and then self destruct.
I don't like such a thing becouse it's against any possible RP, so my idea would be to accept a new record only when a proof that it was not a suicide attempt is made. Like posting a pic with yur position back where star density is good, with a subsequent date. Not to heavy checking and rules, ones that wanna fake it can fake it all, but at least that would disencourage normal players to do suicide attempts. What do you think, dear club members?

As a subsequent note soon Horizon will go live. I will not make a new list. The list shall go on in chronological order. Allitnil preboost distance record will forever be engraved in the list with a special colour (was thinking at orange), post horizon record will be in red, no matter if it was achieved with boosts or without. What do you think?

I'm a keeper, not a king, your suggestions are of uttermost importance.

As far as I'm concerned, the first discoverer is the one with their name on the star. Suicides or anyone else who doesn't return can never be more than an unsubstantiated rumour.

 

[CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI]

As far as I'm concerned, the first discoverer is the one with their name on the star. Suicides or anyone else who doesn't return can never be more than an unsubstantiated rumour.

So your suggestion is to accept distance record only of people that made it back to the bubble and can show a tag? I'm not ironic, it's a real question. I want this place to be good for all the members.

@Jim Steinman: incoming updated and grats.

 

[IliteratSqirel]

Dear CMDR Masakari,

given I have been on this journey since roughly 1 November (pre-boost, also, on MacOS, so no Horizons anyway as far as I know), may I humbly request to be put onto the incoming list, in whatever pre-boost format you eventually decide on?
I was not sure I would go through with (or even be able to) venturing out this far, but having made it out to 31K by now in fairly ok shape, I would now announce my intent to get to 65K. This post here tells you a bit more about my set up: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=116861&page=62

Warm regards
CMDR iliteratSqirel

 

[Macros Black]

I have a question for club members. ow that boosts are introduced I fear some CMDR would boost their way out, take a pic to submit a new record, and then self destruct.
I don't like such a thing becouse it's against any possible RP, so my idea would be to accept a new record only when a proof that it was not a suicide attempt is made. Like posting a pic with yur position back where star density is good, with a subsequent date. Not to heavy checking and rules, ones that wanna fake it can fake it all, but at least that would disencourage normal players to do suicide attempts. What do you think, dear club members?

As a subsequent note soon Horizon will go live. I will not make a new list. The list shall go on in chronological order. Allitnil preboost distance record will forever be engraved in the list with a special colour (was thinking at orange), post horizon record will be in red, no matter if it was achieved with boosts or without. What do you think?

I'm a keeper, not a king, your suggestions are of uttermost importance.

Normal players don't go to Beagle Point, maybe Sagittarius A*, but not BP. Going this far is a serious commitment, even if you plan to set a record with no plans of coming back. It is a very big undertaking, and should be allowed to be recorded regardless. The likelihood of anyone doing so is in my eyes minuscule, so IMHO keep the rules as is, but request full disclosure on max (final?) FSD Boost range to get there.

I swear I heard the B star whisper "Welcome my friend" as I jumped into this Black hole system, finding the B star 7Ls to my left...

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And if these Black holes don't stop, I'm never going to make if back, all those shinies, oh my.

 

[CMDR AKIRA MASAKARI]

Dear CMDR Masakari,

given I have been on this journey since roughly 1 November (pre-boost, also, on MacOS, so no Horizons anyway as far as I know), may I humbly request to be put onto the incoming list, in whatever pre-boost format you eventually decide on?
I was not sure I would go through with (or even be able to) venturing out this far, but having made it out to 31K by now in fairly ok shape, I would now announce my intent to get to 65K. This post here tells you a bit more about my set up: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=116861&page=62

Warm regards
CMDR iliteratSqirel

Sure thing CMDR IliteratSqirel, you will be switfly added to the incoming list

Normal players don't go to Beagle Point, maybe Sagittarius A*, but not BP. Going this far is a serious commitment, even if you plan to set a record with no plans of coming back. It is a very big undertaking, and should be allowed to be recorded regardless. The likelihood of anyone doing so is in my eyes minuscule, so IMHO keep the rules as is, but request full disclosure on max (final?) FSD Boost range to get there.

I swear I heard the B star whisper "Welcome my friend" as I jumped into this Black hole system, finding the B star 7Ls to my left...

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And if these Black holes never stop, I'm never going to make if back, all those shinies, oh my.

Ok, so your oinion is accept anything. I'll wait for other CMDRs opinion. For now we have 2 extreme ideas (only tags - accept any record), and mine would stricke in the middle

 

[Allitnil]

So your suggestion is to accept distance record only of people that made it back to the bubble and can show a tag? I'm not ironic, it's a real question. I want this place to be good for all the members.

Yes, that's what I would go for because it's the only objective in-game measurement.

The thing is I already know what is the absolute furthest system that can be reached since the galmap shows all we need. As such I could photoshop it today. I could also photoshop any other 'proof' that could be used to corroborate it other than the ultimate proof which is that anyone else who goes there would see (or not see!) my name.

I did give some thought a while ago to whether it made sense to establish a list of distance records (furthest north, furthest south, etc) and I couldn't really think of a better alternative for ultimate records other than having your name on the star. Ship based records (eg "furthest north in a sidewinder") would have to be based on the trust of screen shot evidence since a CMDR in a higher jump range ship could have already tagged the star.

 

[BlueTeamMember]

I had a memorable moment in college during history class one day.
The Professor asked the class " What is the most important thing an Explorer of the New World accomplished?"
The hall was silent for a good long moment and then I opined "He came back"
The Class erupted in laughter and the Professor did not hear me. He moved closer to me and asked me to repeat, thinking I was being a disruptive smart .
I repeated "He came back" and he smiled and said "That's not funny" turned to the class and pointed towards me and told them "He is absolutely right. If you didn't tell anyone that you've cut down a tree, how do they know if there is a forest?"

 

[Arnoldo]

I'm inclined to agree that a named stellar object (even if only a moon) is the best proof. Don't doubt the honesty of anyone but the boosted jump range and self destruct does kinda take the pain out of the journey and, in my humble opinion, diminishes it..

PS: @Cmdr Akira Masakari - as with most things in life; the only thing I'm racing is myself (but I still wanna be in the first 50)

 

[Bartizan]

It bruises my soul a little when conversations about accomplishment go this direction. Society is full of people who work very hard at not actually doing anything with their life. Prefer to cheat and cut corners for what? To say you're part of a small group who did do that thing? How starved by belonging or acceptance does someone have to be to just fake or lie about something completely doable, but requires some effort? I had a master chief who use to say, "actions over accolades" shipmate. Basically, do a thing or don't do a thing, no one cares if you have the badge for it, it's not for us you did that thing.

 

[CMDR Eryn Liamson]

My opinion on this, if anyone can make it out to Beagle Point, they deserve to be in the club. Even with a max range Anaconda and a full load of jumponium it'd still take at least 1000 jumps. Just having the resources to do that would be quite a feat! Actually, you'd spend more time gathering the resources than actually getting there the normal way.
My trip out there and back took just over three weeks, and when I left I wasn't even a member of the forums. For me, it was about personal achievement, just knowing that I'd been there, done that, got the mug.

(btw, we need a mug).

 

[Kerenn]

To contribute to the discussion, although I am not yet part of the club :

I sometimes play with the idea of doing the Rusti-Flick (or self destruct for the non-Rats among us) once I breach the 65k barrier. Should my accomplishment be held in lower regards, knowing full well I've travelled all the way there ? Making it back will only double my exploration data. And enable me to cash it and put my names on those lovely A, B, L, Y stars I came across and licked.
What if I reach 65k and don't scan anything, or everything I scan is already marked down ? (there WILL come a time when everything's been scanned beyond 65k).

Again, what about someone wanting to go there the old fashioned way after Horizons comes ? They could post a loadout or intent NOT to boost-jump and do the thing like we do right now. Plus, isn't making it to the 65k line an accomplishment in and of itself, no matter how you do it ? If I can provide a screenshot of myself after the 65k mark or one from my right hand panel that says "furthest distance from starting point : 65xxx" doesn't it mean I'm qualified to join the club ?

Regarding cheating, I like that saying that goes "when you cheat, you cheat only yourself".

 

[Arnoldo]

My trip out there and back took just over three weeks

3 WEEKS? Some serious travelling there Supermoose. Way to go

 

[iain666]

I wouldn't really worry about people cheating - whether the outright cheating of photoshopping their evidence or the sort of cheating of going out on boosted jumps knowing you'll never be able to get back and then self destructing.

Things to tag will run out eventually (I'm not there yet so I'm not sure exactly how many systems are over the line but if a big chunk of the Distant Worlds expedition makes it there and fans out all seeking tags...). You could then insist that to go on the list you have to add Akira (or one of their nominated proxies) to your friends list and be seen in-game and over the line by them (notionally cheatable by hacking Akira's client but seriously, nobody's going to go that far...).

I don't really think it's worth the bother and taking it on trust is fine. What do we lose if CMDR BoredIdiot claims a place on the list without going there? Nothing, or about as much as they gain. I was heading there for my own satisfaction when this post started and that won't be altered one jot by the number of names on the list before mine or worrying if some of them might have been lying about it (not that I think any of them are).

 

[Draco25240]

I might head out for an attempt to reach 65k sometime next weekend, after messing around with 1.5 and Horizons a bit. Not 100% decided yet though (it's a long trip afterall), but we'll see

 

[Allitnil]

This seems to have gotten side-tracked.

The discussion about suiciding is only relevant to someone claiming to have set a distance record and as such is a distance record issue, not a 65K club one. Posting a screenshot of yourself over the 65K line (or other similar evidence) is all that has ever been required to be a member of the club. Heck, you don't even need to post a screenshot: if you've tagged a system out there and someone else comes across it & reports it then you'll be inducted whether you want it or not

nb: unfortunately the "furthest distance" value in our stats can't be used as evidence as it is known to be bugged. Lots of CMDRs have values that would mean they had travelled well beyond the limits of the galaxy!

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Things to tag will run out eventually (I'm not there yet so I'm not sure exactly how many systems are over the line but if a big chunk of the Distant Worlds expedition makes it there and fans out all seeking tags...).

There are many, many, many thousands. Those at the limits of Anacondas', Asps' and even Cobra's ranges have been extensively tagged already but even then mostly only the primary star. But there are countless thousands of systems between 65K and 65.2K that are completely untagged. The Distant Worlds expedition won't be enough to put a major dent in the numbers.

 

[Zeeman]

As far as I'm concerned, the first discoverer is the one with their name on the star. Suicides or anyone else who doesn't return can never be more than an unsubstantiated rumour.

To a point. If aCMDR stays out to try and sicker new things, and only comes back many months later... they were still the first there, even if someone else takes the tag.

I'd like to see those making claims also have to at least get part way back tot he bubble. Also, I'd like to see FD implement a "first discovered by" vs "First explored by" tags.

First explored is the first person to scan and sell data (as now). first discovered applies tot he system only, and is a minor tag for the first person to jump into a system (as in ever) and do a honk. No bonus, and the tag is more of a subtext, but the record of the first visitor is there, regardless, with main credit going to the person who actually explores and returns data.

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I wouldn't really worry about people cheating - whether the outright cheating of photoshopping their evidence or the sort of cheating of going out on boosted jumps knowing you'll never be able to get back and then self destructing.

Things to tag will run out eventually (I'm not there yet so I'm not sure exactly how many systems are over the line but if a big chunk of the Distant Worlds expedition makes it there and fans out all seeking tags...). You could then insist that to go on the list you have to add Akira (or one of their nominated proxies) to your friends list and be seen in-game and over the line by them (notionally cheatable by hacking Akira's client but seriously, nobody's going to go that far...).

I don't really think it's worth the bother and taking it on trust is fine. What do we lose if CMDR BoredIdiot claims a place on the list without going there? Nothing, or about as much as they gain. I was heading there for my own satisfaction when this post started and that won't be altered one jot by the number of names on the list before mine or worrying if some of them might have been lying about it (not that I think any of them are).

Most tags are around the main PI's, I think. (EG - Beagle Point), with large areas being fairly untagged, I suspect dropping or raising a few lightyears on the plane may reveal a plethora of yet to be tagged systems. I actually can't wait to get back out with my Exploraconda!

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