There seems to be a pattern to these threads tho. People who dont want the ADS back arrive, first they counter, then they start insulting, then they accuse others of throwing insults and then eventually there are calls for the thread to be closed. All that happens is somebody makes a new thread after a while anyway.
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There seems to be a pattern to these threads tho. People who dont want the ADS back arrive, first they counter, then they start insulting, then they accuse others of throwing insults and then eventually there are calls for the thread to be closed. All that happens is somebody makes a new thread after a while anyway.
Did you forget the flying through space part that would be needed to proximity scan?
Easy mistake to make when the FSS removes the need to do that part.
Well, to map a body you nevertheless need to fly near it. Old ADS needed same to map a body, minus probe scan.
Might want to scroll back and see who started flinging first. Might also want to see who keeps starting these.
Meanwhile, let's ask Elsa what we should do:
Might want to scroll back and see who started flinging first. Might also want to see who keeps starting these.
Meanwhile, let's ask Elsa what we should do:
First rock thrown:
SHow do you know that? For all you know, there could be a Mossad agent behind me making me do this.
Well im not scrolling back all i can tell you is whos been flinging a constant stream of abuse at me. I just think if there is an issue you squash the posters not the thread. When you see a steam review cursing the mods and cursing frontier and complaining how the forum is filled with trolls that do what they like and shoot down peoples threads. How you gonna argue against that?
I would point out that the letter thread is at 128 pages and nobody is harrassing that one.
I would point out that the letter thread is at 128 pages and nobody is harrassing that one.
Well im not scrolling back all i can tell you is whos been flinging a constant stream of abuse at me. I just think if there is an issue you squash the posters not the thread. When you see a steam review cursing the mods and cursing frontier and complaining how the forum is filled with trolls that do what they like and shoot down peoples threads. How you gonna argue against that?
I would point out that the letter thread is at 128 pages and nobody is harrassing that one.
Hey don't knock the mods here. They're brilliant. Stigbob gets moderated out more than i do.
The modding at reddit though is whatever they feel like on the day sure.
Actually i like the mods here alot. They are most tolerant group of people i've seen in any game forum if you keep it civil. The point is they certainly do not side with the white knights. Respect.
i didnt... comprehension round here. I think they are very tolerant. I just dont think people should be allowed to shut down threads they dont like.
Incase it wasnt clear i mean indigo is making it come true.
The last person that shut down fss was that xoubel guy when he started having a conversation about dogs. Im going to return the favour should that guy a conversation about anything serious.
The mods don't do it because of the topic, its the rubbish chat. Its best to ignore white knights when they push that way to keep the thread clean.
EDIT: Havent bothered since beta finished for 3.4.. but almost a year later mine would be:
- Put the unexplored entries in the nav panel after the honk.
- The state of prediscovered but unexplored doesn't add value, that can go to let people have a choice again. Its completely undiscovered or discovered. I doubt explorers and non explorers are relying on these credits if there is a difference. There's no other point to the distinction?
- After extended use, there is nothing wrong with orienting yourself via your ship then using the fss (doing the fss panning outside the fss). Its really elegant to do this, try it with going about your business but checking for signal sources only on your path. Best ever. (For the naysayers, it takes longer to this than just pan in the fss so double take before accusing cherry pickers).
- I wouldn't bother with the ads as an optional module for the body reveal, but if it was to be a module, have it so it would reveal signal sources instantly (nav beacon). A real advantage for a real cost (ive definitely gotten used to the extra slot, especially in the cobra 4). Better than what we had before.
- Noone cares what happens to the system map. Oh wait maybe Ziggy does sorry. But noone cares means "no complaints either way". Yes yes yes!
- Given the spectrum is only available in the fss, there would be immense potential for synergistic route plotting while completely avoiding spoilers. If you only wanted a certain type, you could tune into it, avoid pressing the grand click, remember the distance, select the same entry in the nav panel and do selective exploring completely without spoilers finally.
No, I do not remember that. I remember a lot of Community Mouth-noise about these being "Squadron Carriers", but I do not recall any Frontier statement that did not refer to these as "Fleet Carriers". If you can find an actual Frontier post that references these as "Squadron", please share.
See above.
Or they could just give the ADS back. Its just a game after all and its meant to be fun.
I dont want an echo chamber but some people just spout rubbish and disrupt to the point that any feedback value is lost. You can see how upset some people are by the loss of the ADS, whats the problem? Just give the thing back. Im going to guess that if there really was any good reason why not we would have heard it by now.
Anyway i promise ill post less in november ok?
I dont want an echo chamber but some people just spout rubbish and disrupt to the point that any feedback value is lost. You can see how upset some people are by the loss of the ADS, whats the problem? Just give the thing back. Im going to guess that if there really was any good reason why not we would have heard it by now.
Anyway i promise ill post less in november ok?
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Go check the original FDev post accompanying the livestream. It explicitly states that carriers are a squadron asset, not owned by the leader.
I'd link it myself, but I'm on my phone.
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My bad, it was a summary of the livestream, not the official post, still:
Summary of Focused Feedback Squadrons livestream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4T20enqOk Original Reddit post Squadrons ≃ "guilds", and a multiplayer organisation tool, to enhance and organise existing gameplay Not being designed around Solo CMDRs, being designed around groups of CMDRs Leaders/Officers will not gain benefits (credits...
Salient point:
- Carriers are of Megaship scale, and cost will be paid for by the Squadron, not specifically the Leader
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Might want to scroll back and see who started flinging first. Might also want to see who keeps starting these.
Meanwhile, let's ask Elsa what we should do:
Is FD included?
Exploration is hard, isn't it?
Nah, the FSS only makes it annoying.
By removing the need to entering the FSS to resolve a body, by making targeting of that body available in the Nav Panel. If the passive scan at proximity resolves the same information as the FSS, the FSS becomes redundant.
If, on the other hand, the information gained by resolving a body in the FSS is never made available by other means (other than outright buying it or scanning it from a Nav Beancon), I will gladly support getting the ADS back as an optional module. Preferably at least class 3 or 4, of course, as it must be ancient technology and therefore huge.
I'm not sure about this but doesn't the FSS also resolve a body in close proximity?
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This one? Doesn't say it's a squadron-only asset. In fact, older posts about it are mostly worries that they would be squadron only. But nothing from FDEV stating that explicitly.
Gamescom Reveal.
SThis one? Doesn't say it's a squadron-only asset. In fact, older posts about it are mostly worries that they would be squadron only. But nothing from FDEV stating that explicitly.
Gamescon Reveal.
See my edit to my post above.
Also, not that one, the original Squadrons livestream - where they talked about carriers. The ONLY place they talked about carriers in 2018.
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Ahh the classic "you're doing it wrong", because we can obviously control our likes at will, I still remember the times when Iphones had to be held in specific angles or else the internet signal vanished, Apple's answer? You are holding it wrong.
Ah yes, but that live stream was about squadrons, not fleet carriers. It is also ancient by internet standards. When did StuartGT speak for FD or for the community anyway?
In the relevant live stream and subsequent forum waffle, the boats are fleet carriers and held by a single player, in any mode available. According to the Q&A, other squadron members can't even contribute to them! Surely FDEV must mean they can't contribute directly when purchasing the boat. But there must be way to pool credits for the purchase to the player that will own it. I'm getting EVE flashbacks...
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