The arena mod - Use skills and only skills to defeat your opponent

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Lord_Crazy

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Dear Commanders,

Some of us love PvP. Others are not really into it. Some people are also concerned about losing a 200m ship just for few minutes of fun shooting at other players in a similar situation.

Here is my potential answer: the Tiny Ships Arena Mod (TSAM - unregistered tm).

Imagine two AI capital ships fighting, with all the laser, turrets, torpedoes and all those stuff. Exciting, right?
Now imagine that these AI capital ships need squadron of tiny fighters. These fighters are all the same, are cheap, and do not have FSD (see F63 Condor and Imperial Fighter). Well what about you are the one flying them? Your mission would be to ensure that your capital ship survives. The best way to proceed would be up to you: destroying enemy fighters (ie. other players), protecting your capital ship while it is tanking the enemy capital ship; protecting torpedoes after launch to make sure they hit the target (ahhh Starlancer!); or even going crazy on the capital ship shield generators to make bite the dust.

Now why is it appropriate for an arena mod?
1) We all have the same tiny fighter: it's all about skills, not how much you have been grinding to outfit your ship;
2) The fighters are made for mass production, and presumably cheap: you would not spend tons of money because you decided to fight;
3) These fighters don't have FSD: players could not steal a ship and go around, they remain attach to their capital ship. Win or die, no way out, like in a real arena;
4) Multiple choice: victory can be achieved through several means, either by being defensive or act more aggressively;
5) Far from "normal" play: the capital ships would encounter in an undisclosed location. Since you are just a pilot in a tiny spacecraft with limited systems, you don't know much about what's around;
6) Capital ships battle!!! I mean, come on!!!!

Over the time other scenario could be imagined, like one capital ship versus a fleet of small ships, pirate base versus security crew, ...
What do you think?
 

Lord_Crazy

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Rubbernuke said:
Sounds like the PvP mode assets found in the installer a while back...but an interesting idea.
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I remember something about an arena mod found in the files, that's why I used that name. That being said I have no idea whatsoever about what was in these files.
I just thought F63 versus Imperial Fighter was the most logical choice: we would be on equal foot (besides skills of course) and could nicely kill each other without loosing millions of credits :)
 

Bokugo

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I want space battles akin to the ones in Battlefront 2. Each capital ship has a set number of spawns. Docking into enemy ships let you take destroy them from the inside out. Using their own turrets against them. So many things. Those space battles were the epitome for me (so far).

Of course a simple arena mode would be great. Give everybody balanced loadouts so not everyone is flying the same ship. Maybe make it so if you're in a big and powerful ship, the rewards wouldn't be as great if you were in a smaller ship.
 

CMDR Beltane

CMDR Beltane
Nice idea OP. But personally, i would make it a virtual battle. Like a game in the game. That way its obvious why you don't have to pay insurance and such, and it would be more accepted to have such an arena. Cause there i not one possible reason a faction would waste real ressources to such a thing. At least that would be something i could live with.
 

Lord_Crazy

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Cmdr Irenicus said:
No thanks. Besides moot point, there will never be mods so...
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Ok not a mod, an update then. Call it as you like, I am basically talking about a part of the game where players can PvP in an arena of some sort using the same or very similar ships, with only skills being involved, no outfit and no credits (or almost no credits).

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CMDR Beltane said:
Nice idea OP. But personally, i would make it a virtual battle. Like a game in the game. That way its obvious why you don't have to pay insurance and such, and it would be more accepted to have such an arena. Cause there i not one possible reason a faction would waste real ressources to such a thing. At least that would be something i could live with.
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Yeah I was actually thinking VR could make things more easy to explain and justify how it works. Maybe both could be nice.
 

Looney Toon

Looney Toon
ED will need some sort of pvp arena for it to succeed on the consoles. If it doesn't get one I don't think it will be popular for console players.
 

[VR] Deggial

[VR] Deggial
CMDR Beltane said:
Nice idea OP. But personally, i would make it a virtual battle. Like a game in the game. That way its obvious why you don't have to pay insurance and such, and it would be more accepted to have such an arena. Cause there i not one possible reason a faction would waste real ressources to such a thing. At least that would be something i could live with.
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Why not? Sounds good! :)

I mean, meaningful content for the eventually upcoming "walk the station"-expansion is direly needed and a "tactical combat training simulator" might be an interesting addition.

Commanders interested in such a training might be able to invest a certain amount of "points" to outfit their virtual ship and combat against other pilotes and/or AI ships.
It might not even be unheard, that some self-confidant pilots wage large ammounts of credits on their victory over other competing pilots, trying to make a fortune in this contest.
 
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CMDR Beltane

CMDR Beltane
Viajero said:
I can only say... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=121017&page=9&p=2392281&viewfull=1#post2392281

You may get your request sooner than you expect :p
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Hmm, we will see. Though i have to admit that doing something like that would be quite the... bold move, to put it politely. Sorry, as much as i would like to see some kind of virtual arena for our PVP'ers or those who would like something like that - imho there are more pressing matters at hand at the moment.
 

Lord_Crazy

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Comrade Napoleon said:
I would not be surprised, but then I would have quit the game.

Cheers Cmdr's
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Could you specify why you would quit the game? How a bunch of players deciding to fight separately without impacting the galaxy would make people react like that?
An arena does not have to compete with regular PvP. I actually see it as something different and additional, again based more of pure skills with limited ships choice. The rest of the galaxy would not be impacted and players who like to fight each other could do it without worrying too much about loosing their credits. Those who need more adrenaline could still stick to traditional PvP.

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Viajero said:
I can only say... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=121017&page=9&p=2392281&viewfull=1#post2392281

You may get your request sooner than you expect :p
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I hope I do :D thanks for sharing that.
 

Tuub t Tute

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If it was added as a new sub menu next to contacts and bulletin board as "Arcade", or something and it was the in-game equivalent of stopping off at a motorway café and sticking a couple of quid in the coin-op arcade games, I don't think it would have any impact...

Limited number of selectable ships, in a totally virtualised arena with Sumo-style leave the arena penalties. Have a medal table for people to compare who is the Masta-Pewpew-ista and let folks get on with it.

If it is 3300 I'm sure Total Recall style VR immersion will have been surpassed and every kid with a Matchbox car dreamed of being James Hunt, so why not let space truckers be Maverick for a few hours? ;)
 
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