The big bang theory. Love that show [big grin]
The Current Direction of Elite Dangerous is....
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The big bang theory. Love that show [big grin]
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Actually, comparing to ED to Farmville is sort of rude. To the latter one. In terms of progression, Farmville just smokes ED.
I too cannot imagine that people find steam numbers around 100k pleasing when there were 1.3 million of copies sold.
I feel bad nowSee, I don't play Elite through steam and I know I am not the only one. So every time someone trots out steam player stats I feel a little sorry for them because they are basing their rants on a subset of the players.
It's getting kind of boring having to repeat things over and over.
Check out ED total sales, then use something like steam spy or steam charts to see the number of steam accounts that own a copy of ED.
You will realise the Majority of people bought ED via steam, not the other way round.
It's hard to provide evidence when people are constantly jumping the fence.
I was a fan boy back at the beginning, spent well over £100 on the game and loved the way it started and the potential.
Since David Braben handed the wheel to someone else, jumped out the plane with his parachute and landed in planetcoaster land, the game development and mechanics have taken a nose dive into oblivion, and It made me cross to the dark side.
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I am still enjoying the game and could give two (maybe three) farts if anyone else likes it or not.
So far as I can tell, not once in the past year has the ratio of positive to negative posts, steam 'stats', or number of sentences written in all caps has had any discernable impact on what I see and experience in game, so...
So far as I can tell, not once in the past year has the ratio of positive to negative posts, steam 'stats', or number of sentences written in all caps has had any discernable impact on what I see and experience in game, so...
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It's been the same thing every year after they release a new patch. The game is thriving for a few weeks then the game dies out because they add nothing of value and the content is shallow, non existent and barebone at best.
I think one of the most interesting aspects of the latest batch of "Steam Stats" is this gem:
The "All Time Peak" of players is 18,039, set way back in 2015. According to the "Last 30 Days," we reached a peak of 14,435, just 3,604 short of tying the record. Game dying? Hardly! If anything, I should thank the OP for pointing out how much better Elite: Dangerous is doing the least few months!
The "All Time Peak" of players is 18,039, set way back in 2015. According to the "Last 30 Days," we reached a peak of 14,435, just 3,604 short of tying the record. Game dying? Hardly! If anything, I should thank the OP for pointing out how much better Elite: Dangerous is doing the least few months!
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Really? Given the number of copies sold, what does this tell you about the number of customers sticking around?
Nothing, since the steam charts numbers don't tell us anything about it. They just show how many players are logged in simultaneously at a specific time on a specific platform. How do you see any correlation to CMDRs sticking around?
Your post us a lot of bull, do you honestly believe that every owner of Elite must be logged in 24/7? Could you guys please finally understand that you have no idea what you are talking about and which numbers you are failing to compare?
If people were sticking around, the number of people logged on would rise steadily over time as more sales are made. It isn't.
I did that earlier and proved that the game is quite healthy, especially if you compare it to other 3 years old games.
That happens with every game and every major update. And no, the graph doesn't show the sharpest and quickest drop in players. The graph shoes wrong information that is flawed due to the nature it's represented (dismissing earlier numbers, just using peak numbers for the first 3 years and using lots of data points for the last months). I explained all of that in a different post.
If everyone could read and understand it and stop posting false information, that would be great
.Just to clarify (again...):
These sharp spikes and drops existed before. Due to the way steamcharts gathers and stores data they are no longer visible for events that lie in the past. You can easily check this yourself by hovering over the graph and count how many data points exists for the past and how many data points exist for the present. Since they are deleting most of the old data points and only keep a few the graph looks flattened / smooth for old events and spiky for the current player numbers. The graph is wrong because it compares two different sets of data.
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The idea that if a game is popular, everyone who purchased a copy is constantly playing that one game is a fallacy. Consider this: GTA V sold over 9 million copies on Steam, yet today's peak player count was ~90K. Using the logic that 1 copy sold = 1 daily player if the game is popular, this means that GTA V is a deeply unpopular game. I think we know that is not the case.
The average player doesn't religiously play a game day in and day out. Instead, gamers jump into and out of a game as the mood strikes them. Elite is no different.Again, the thing I find so interesting about Elite's recent numbers is how there is an upturn in peak player count. Typically, a game will enjoy a downwards burn, especially if the game in not being well received (as many critics of Elite allege). With ED, we are seeing the opposite: the game is now growing its player base. That is no small accomplishment!
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Well I'm surprised to see this thread still going the next morning and I see its still mostly an argument of how statistics work.
The problem is that this entire thread is an opinion based OP that chose a set of data to support his statement. I did the same recently with one about forum activity but I stated how it was only supporting my opinion rather than proving it so the thread was much more civil. You should be discussing the opinion put forward, not the data because as people have rightly pointed out, the data is sketchy and flawed. Its interesting and shows a potential trend but does not prove Jack poop.
I actually agree with the OPs opinion that the direction of Elite is away from the one I'd like. That is geographically downwards I suppose but as its only my opinion, I also see how it could be upwards for some.
For me it's how the focus is being placed on Xeno narrative and discovering stuff in the black. I fully respect what Canon do as a group but it is frustrating to see how the developers treat them like a favourite child because they are interested in the content currently being pumped out. There are much larger player groups that are far more interested in BGS, faction building and getting those megaships but currently I feel they are a secondary objective because we didn't conform to the content currently being produced. It's like they made a game for themselves and put some stuff on the side for other people to enjoy while funding their own area of the game.
All that said, if you like the current Xeno narrative then you are probably very pleased. That's your opinion and it's impossible for me to state otherwise.
The problem is that this entire thread is an opinion based OP that chose a set of data to support his statement. I did the same recently with one about forum activity but I stated how it was only supporting my opinion rather than proving it so the thread was much more civil. You should be discussing the opinion put forward, not the data because as people have rightly pointed out, the data is sketchy and flawed. Its interesting and shows a potential trend but does not prove Jack poop.
I actually agree with the OPs opinion that the direction of Elite is away from the one I'd like. That is geographically downwards I suppose but as its only my opinion, I also see how it could be upwards for some.
For me it's how the focus is being placed on Xeno narrative and discovering stuff in the black. I fully respect what Canon do as a group but it is frustrating to see how the developers treat them like a favourite child because they are interested in the content currently being pumped out. There are much larger player groups that are far more interested in BGS, faction building and getting those megaships but currently I feel they are a secondary objective because we didn't conform to the content currently being produced. It's like they made a game for themselves and put some stuff on the side for other people to enjoy while funding their own area of the game.
All that said, if you like the current Xeno narrative then you are probably very pleased. That's your opinion and it's impossible for me to state otherwise.
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