The Debug Cam (free roam) Camera Range Increase.

Would you like to see the debug camera range increased?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 91.1%
  • No

    Votes: 9 8.9%

  • Total voters
    101
  • Poll closed .
I've been thinking about this from the very first moment i tried the free roam cam and realized my ship barely fits into the picture. Why is the range so limited? Having more range (or no range restriction at all) would enhance our Elite experience a great deal, especially for Horizons.

Many people who like to role play and those who enjoy taking screen shots and are very limited by this restriction, as are those who make youtube videos (and who are basically advertising the game for free). This would benefit both the community and FD. The reason I put this to a poll, is because I have a feeling it will be a landslide "yes" and since this would take a single dev about 5mins to implement, I want to see if they are listening to the community. If the large majority vote "yes", then its not a question of do people want this, or difficulty/time and resources to make it happen, but rather a question of, do any devs actually read these forums and can those participating here make a difference?

The reason for this post however, is because this isnt a small thing, this to me would be a huge feature! Although obviously i wouldnt be happy about it, I think i would even be willing to pay an expansion fee to have it. I want it that bad!

Also before the Vultures jump on me, I should point out this isnt a whine post, or one that suggests that FD isnt doing their job, as I think they are, and a wonderful job at that. Also Im sure nowhere in the job description does it say that "they must follow and do what the community suggests". Its more like going above and beyond of whats expected. So I'm not exactly sure this will happen, but man would it be a nice surprise to see "debug cam range increased" in the next update.

Please leave your comments/suggestions/Votes. And if you believe there is a good reason for this range restriction, please explain why.
 
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Forget the debug camera, I'd like to see it removed altogether. Let's get some camera drones instead, launch it like a limpet then take direct control through a secondary screen or neural connection. Could fly it as far as its Lil fuel pack would allow.

Might be a good idea too... am I correct to assume that you would also like to have more than the current range?
 
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It could do with being pushed out a little further. I always suspected it was so you couldn't explore too far around stations with it. As it is you can float through docking bay walls etc... maybe they didn't want ppl wandering too far.

I'd love them to actually implement some physical presence like a drone for the debug cam. At least then there would be some logical reason it couldn't travel too far from your ship.
 
It could do with being pushed out a little further. I always suspected it was so you couldn't explore too far around stations with it. As it is you can float through docking bay walls etc... maybe they didn't want ppl wandering too far.

I'd love them to actually implement some physical presence like a drone for the debug cam. At least then there would be some logical reason it couldn't travel too far from your ship.


I thought about that too, but you can already get stuck in the stations and go under ground on planets and its not that big of a deal for now. Its far from perfect and as other have suggested could be improved over all, not just in range. I'm just saying for now, this would be a very easy thing to do for a large reward. Then down the road, something more advanced can take its place.
 
I think it needs a range increase, and I also think it's a good feature, as long as you consider it only to be a screenshot tool.
 
It's useless. Scrap it, and put in a proper external view like we had in FE2 and FFE.

I'm thinking baby steps here. If you cant get a dev to log into a computer for 5 mins to do something this little, I doubt we should be expecting anything grand, like a proper camera/drone.
 
Let's get some camera drones instead, launch it like a limpet then take direct control through a secondary screen or neural connection. Could fly it as far as its Lil fuel pack would allow.
Brilliant idea.
And since drones have arms and pincers, they could be used to go inside shipwrecks and do other things in space. It would open up whole new areas of gameplay.
 
1) please dont spend too much time on such things, so no new drone-features or whatever.
2) increasing the range would take approximately 12 seconds of dev time, and has AFAIK no drawbacks.

I vote 'yes'.

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It's useless.

If you'd bother to check some of the screenie topics here you could easily see for yourself that many of us do use that feature, so it is clearly not useless.
 
1) please dont spend too much time on such things, so no new drone-features or whatever.
2) increasing the range would take approximately 12 seconds of dev time, and has AFAIK no drawbacks.

I vote 'yes'.

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If you'd bother to check some of the screenie topics here you could easily see for yourself that many of us do use that feature, so it is clearly not useless.
I've seen screenshots. I've taken screenshots. That's all the debug camera is good for. It's not a proper external view. Go back 20 years in Elite gaming to see what I'm talking about.
 
How about removing those stupid invisible boundaries around some ships? For example around the Fed Corvette´s nose on left and right side... that idiotic 50 feet of invisible boundary seems pointless and causes to make some epic screenshots very hard..

Oh and also allow debug cam usage while docking computer is docking..
 
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inb4: "Hey guys, it's actually a config file setting buried over here. Have fun and don't fly into the sun!"

If you cant get a dev to log into a computer for 5 mins to do something this little, I doubt we should be expecting anything grand
I hope you realise how passive aggressive this sounds. If I was a dev I'd spend 5 minutes dropping you into the nearest black hole. :)
 
1) please dont spend too much time on such things, so no new drone-features or whatever.
2) increasing the range would take approximately 12 seconds of dev time, and has AFAIK no drawbacks.

I vote 'yes'.
Exactly this. I realize the devs are busy dealing with more important things. Thats why im not asking for a new free roam cam/drone, just a very quick update to what we already have. This would take virtually no time to do and based on the votes and considering its started with 1 positive and 4 negative ones, I would say many other cmdrs would find this update very useful.
 
I've seen screenshots. I've taken screenshots. That's all the debug camera is good for. It's not a proper external view. Go back 20 years in Elite gaming to see what I'm talking about.

That is because a 'proper' external view has been discussed and overwhelmingly rejected by both FD and backers. Changes so that making screenshots easier/better are good, adding a 'normal' 3rd person perspective is not.
 
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Oh love the Camera Range and really like camera drone idea +1.
The idea of having a little spy is very cool.... and i hope the range for that is increased so it can be left at least 1 system away.... Oh now im in two systems....Bounty Hunting.... Roaaar!!!




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Just wanted to say thank you to all those who voted on this "minor" issue. Looks like the community agrees on something for once :) Now we just have to hope a dev comes across this post and feels the same way.
 
Camera development is of great appeal to me and a major attraction for space sim fans alike!
I really don't understand why 3rd person camera is neglected in this game :(
Seems like a basic feature most or almost all new games have.
 
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