ED w/out Horizons still includes CQC Arena at no additional charge. [haha]
The Elite Dangerous cash trap awaiting noobs...
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From the ED steam page.
Seems quite concise of what the base game is, I'm not seeing any mention of landings. So I personally wouldn't call it a trap.
It takes all of 2 minutes to read what the base game is and what options are available with expansions etc.
It's actually your opinion that's hilarious.
Name a game that's complete in your opinion and I'll tell you why it isn't.
"I'm the one who gets to decide whether a game is complete or not." What a ridiculous point of view.
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TWENTY QUID!! ... Tell your m8 he got a bargin, I bought LEP (£120) and all I got was Horizons (so far)
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i have a Mac and a PC and have Elite Dangerous on Both and Commander Bamber flies his ships on both
Mac Version does not have Horizons at all - doesn't limit my enjoyment one little bit EXCEPT that on my PC I have an all singing all dancing Thrustmaster Warthog and on my Mac I can only run a rubbish generic joystick
its not the lack of horizons that annoys me about playing on my non horizons Mac at all
No idea what you're crapping on about... Why is "I'm the one who gets to decide whether a game is complete or not." <<< in quotes? I didn't say it so you're quoting something that wasn't said.
I suggest you actually learn something about ED... The game is far from complete and has years of development to go. The fact that I have to explain that is beyond belief. Are you one of these people who thinks a game is complete because it's on steam without the "early access" tag?
Go and ask Braben if Elite is complete...
Mate isn't buying it. I warned him no planet landings and yes he would expect to land on planets.
I got the base game on sale ages ago and then paid for Horizons beta. No complaints from me about the cost... Just purely the fact that it's confusing for noobs.
Your comments regharding SC are incorrect inasmuch that you are offered BOTH when purchasing (single player game AND MMO for 60 dollars (I was looking yesterday).
If your friend cannot afford the approximately $50 for Elite Dangerous & Horizons (also available as a bundle) maybe wait for it to go on sale as it usually does several times per year but that being said, if he or she cannot afford a $50 video game then they really cannot afford to play video games and maybe they should think about getting a job that would allow him or her to have a life worth living with money, friends, video games, etc.
SC is probably not going to leave the alpha stage before it's abandoned anyways.
NMS on the other hand...I'm going to have to call you out here. In what way is it a "shell"? What other NMS 'add-ons', or Expansions does one need to purchase?
Because I've gotten every update, every bit of new content released, all for the price I paid initially.
Aww, you can't sit around a starter system and blow up new players trying to figure out which end of their multi-tool to point forward. Wah.
NMS is far more "complete" than Elite is at half its age.
Atmospheric planetary landings with weather effects? Got it.
Elite.. still waiting.
Full-fledged crafting system without homage to RNGesus? Got it.
Elite.. pray to RNGesus.
Walking around in space stations and planets? NMS is all about it.
Elite... "no guarantees, no ETA's" not even a "We're experimenting with it."
Story?
Elite is sort of shoe-horning one in, but it's clumsy and awkward and easy to miss.
NMS started with 3.5 stories already there. One for the Gek, one for the Korvax, one for the Vy'keen, and your own story that initially you had to tell to yourself, but since Atlas Rising, has been fleshed out far more.
Base-building?
NMS has it.
Elite is nowhere close.
Megaships?
You want a giant freighter in NMS, you can buy one, if you can afford it. You can even build in it and turn it into a mobile operations centers, dock multiple ships to switch between with radically different loadouts.
Elite... has one, and the rest of us know very little about its operation. The rest are just an alternate form of space station.
Now NMS and Elite ARE very different kinds of games, so they are an Apples to Pomegranates comparison. Yes, NMS at launch was quite a bit more limited in scope, but it has rocketed ahead at superluminal velocity. And hasn't cost me a cent beyond what I paid initially.
Elite.. it's a very lovable tick, dug deep in my skin, sucking little bits of blood(money) out of me as it goes. I happen to enjoy both games, but I'd say Elite is more shell than NMS at this point.
Are you serious? Do you think that Frontier invented this business model? I know money is tight and all of that but He/She would be getting a complete game for their money. But yes it would be more complete with Horizons. There's noting down and dirty about this business model. Lot's of games use it. WE, may not like it, but it's pretty common. ArmA 3, Battlefield series, & Witcher series to name just a couple.
Did you inform your friend about the about the great game play or just heap the negatives on them so they thought, they would not be getting anything for their money? If you gave them a balance view of the game and the cost, then you've done your job (as a friend) and the decision is theirs. If not, then you've robbed them of the chance to play a great game.
Do have a nice day ... and no, I'm not angry at you because you and I do not know each other. I just know, first hand, how we can influence peoples choices the wrong way some times.
Chief
Yeah... no... ok. I will pass on your words of wisdom. I'm sure it will change his life completely....
1: Job that allows purchase of games.
2: Life worth living.
3: Friends.
4: Video games.
5: Etc.
6: Pet dog or cat.
(I added the last item as I think his life would be truly worth living then).
Arma 3: My friend would be able to land his aircraft at various runways without buying 'Arma Horizons'.
Witcher: Friend would be able to dock ship at port without buying 'Witcher Horizons'
Battlefield: Friend is able to land aircraft without buying.................
Thanks for not being angry at me. It is a comfort
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The problem with this one is, NMS has more or less one type of an atmospheric planet... and nothing else.
Arma 3: My friend would be able to land his aircraft at various runways without buying 'Arma Horizons'.
Witcher: Friend would be able to dock ship at port without buying 'Witcher Horizons'
Battlefield: Friend is able to land aircraft without buying.................
Thanks for not being angry at me. It is a comfort
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But... you can dock your ship in a station. I really don't know how this analogy applies here.
I agree. Keep the product and price transparent and sharp.
The problem with this one is, NMS has more or less one type of an atmospheric planet... and nothing else.
But... you can dock your ship in a station. I really don't know how this analogy applies here.
Landing on a planet once developed for said game should be a core feature of said game not DLC.
No man's pie at least has atmospheric planets. Even if they're all cutesy with alien life.
ED has two types of non-atmospheric planet: dry rock and wet rock. Hot rock and icy rock.
For those who compare it to Battlefield, Arma or Witcher... Core functionality is in all of those games. Sure you can buy new maps for BF and new scenarios/weapons for Arma... but when you buy those games you get all of the core features.
My friend was about to buy the game today but I wasn't gonna let him buy then tell him he can't land on planets.
It's long past time to retire the old "base" game, and just move forward with selling the game as a complete package with Horizons included.
For those whom have not upgraded- they will continue to miss out on the Horizons features but continue to have an upgrade path, and for new customers make it a complete game with price reflective of added value. I'd say keep it around $40 for the complete game respectively- the price is spot on, despite what the penny-pinching freeloaders say. Perhaps give an introductory price of around $35 to ensure it's still profitable.
At this point, no real reason to sell it separately anyhow.
For those whom have not upgraded- they will continue to miss out on the Horizons features but continue to have an upgrade path, and for new customers make it a complete game with price reflective of added value. I'd say keep it around $40 for the complete game respectively- the price is spot on, despite what the penny-pinching freeloaders say. Perhaps give an introductory price of around $35 to ensure it's still profitable.
At this point, no real reason to sell it separately anyhow.
Agree. I'm sure there are a couple of people who don't want to land on planets but they could avoid landing on planets with one single game.
The seasonal model allows Frontier to generate revenue from existing users... I'm not against paying towards the cost of development... If Frontier get rid of the old base game then there's the question of how they charge existing users for new content?
I think the real problem of not having horizons isn't not being able to land on planets, but getting killed by people in engineered ships that you have no way of matching