The Elite Dangerous ingame reputation system thread

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Zulu Romeo

Zulu Romeo
Mohrgan said:
Rep decay only happens on the extreme ends of rank. Hostile to unfriendly. Allied to friendly. It would never remove your chance to buy a rep only ship. This has been introduced to help people loose negative rep, and to reduce the chance of players being allied with multiple major factions. Both are valid reasons to do so. Knee jerk reactions have colored peoples perceptions. I would suggest learning the facts before arguing a case against something.
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I don't think there are rep-dependent ships either - only rep-dependent missions, dependent on minor faction rep which has been stated should not decay. Ships can be available according to military rank (which should also never decay), itself dependent on missions that require a minor rep level and in some cases a TPF rank (something else that can never decay).

Really, what the devs are describing isn't rep decay of the major factions, it's the present attitude the major factions have towards you according to how well you behave towards their major factions and systems. It's to ensure one doesn't remain Allied to more than one major faction which would not be realistic given the present circumstances. Plus, if you ignore a major faction long enough, their love for you will settle down to friendly amicability. Similarly, over time a hostile major faction will forgive you, but not forget you - to get back in their good books you'll need to work for it.

I think in that context, the word "Allied" seems a misnomer in the context of the major factions. I suggested more mood-like terminology in a suggestions forum thread, like "adored." It can remain so for minor factions, though.
 
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What with FD's explanation of how this decay works as clear as mud and now the admission that it was bugged to begin with and supposedly fixed can someone please answer me this?

I want to earn some system permits, independent ones not tied to Empire or Federation rank. I can only afford the time to play an hour or so every few days, sometimes there will be a gap of many days to over a week.

So the way I understand it for someone in my position is that it will be impossible because Minor faction reputation continues to decay so the very small advancements I make towards Allied (when a permit is issued) are always reversed by the time I can return to the game. Is this correct?
 
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Lowievisser

Lowievisser
There isnt any decay, well maybe after a month of doing nothing.

and please dont give the casual excuse , i have fam , kids , 2 jobs etc .

ofcourse you need to do some effort to keep the rep , duh , only mistake fd made that it should be in it day one together with atleast 25% loss of second hand modules.
 

Deleted member 37733

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Lowievisser said:
There isnt any decay, well maybe after a month of doing nothing.
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So you don't actually have a clue, I was after somebody that could answer my question not take a stab in the dark.

And don't presume to tell me how to live my life, how incredibly rude.
 
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Duckfather

Duckfather
steve23094 said:
What with FD's explanation of how this decay works as clear as mud and now the admission that it was bugged to begin with and supposedly fixed can someone please answer me this?

I want to earn some system permits, independent ones not tied to Empire or Federation rank. I can only afford the time to play an hour or so every few days, sometimes there will be a gap of many days to over a week.

So the way I understand it for someone in my position is that it will be impossible because Minor faction reputation continues to decay so the very small advancements I make towards Allied (when a permit is issued) are always reversed by the time I can return to the game. Is this correct?
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I'll try to clarify with what I know. The decay is only supposed to happen while you are playing the game, not when you're offline. It's also supposed to only affect major faction rep (Empire, Federation, Alliance, not too sure about Independents), not minor faction rep. It's not a constant decay, it seems to 'tick' once every 45 mins to an hour. The decay when it 'ticks' doesn't seem to be massive (it was decreased massively during the beta for 1.3), but it's not really possible to quantify as we have no figures to go on. As a working example, I had a high Allied rep with the Empire when 1.3 landed, but was 15,000LY out in the black. I got back at the weekend and had many Empire rank progression missions waiting for me. I doubt I'd have had those if my rep had plunged really far while I'd been away.

I'm like you and sometimes can only play a few hours a week with long pauses between, but I don't think this would affect us too badly. Especially if you are running missions to get permits etc. The rep gain should offset the rep decay you would experience over a few hours (this last bit is just an educated guess on my part as things are a bit too early to tell if anything is bugged really).
 
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Lowievisser

Lowievisser
steve23094 said:
So you don't actually have a clue, I was after somebody that could answer my question not take a stab in the dark.

And don't presume to tell me how to live my life, how incredibly rude.
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can you point the part where i tell you how to live your life , thank you. It was my first post in the tread , you the OP suddenly? Talking about rude.

and about the clue thing , ofcourse i know , i can count and after almost 3 weeks my rep hasnt dropped. you know pp release date and such.
 
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Kaeldian

Kaeldian
I don't mind the decay, but I really don't like that it keeps ticking while I'm logged off. That bothers me greatly as I rotate around in what games I feel like playing.

Punish me for not being loyal to your brand? That's kind of petty isn't it?
 

piugattuk

piugattuk
Does anyone understand the reputation system please I'm confused.

So I take a mission for a faction allied with the feds, complete it only to see my standings fall with a local faction and the federal faction of whom all are allied and are "supposedly" allies, in the picture you can see one happy the other unhappy but what you can't see is the feds are also unhappy with me, seems i'm losing standings with feds while not able to gain any rank with empire no matter how many rank missions I get, I should have been a baron by now but instead I have zero rank...what am I missing, I am able to rank with the feds just fine, but just losing rep. 2015-06-23_00003.jpg
 

Bub

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No, i don't understand. I also want to know how to tell which minor faction missions i can do that wont hurt my main faction.
Searching for a post about this and so far: no avail.
 

Frop

Frop
No, but my favourite part of the change logs is the community effort in decrypting all the vague bullet points (and a more interesting metagame than PP in its current form at that).
 

Samosa

Samosa
They read a lot like the timesheets I have to fill in every week to justify my coding hours. "Debugging AJAX timing issues to ensure cache-relevancy within the optimized namespace.". That's my metagame.

If my employer is reading this, then lol j/k?
 

Alex Brentnall

Alex Brentnall
Hmmm, possibly it means if you are an "Elite" pilot the Empire/Federation/Alliance reputation won't decay as fast since they need you more than a "mostly harmless" pilot??? Speculation! :)
 

Confidenze

Confidenze
There are a few things that you need to pay attention to - I know because I was where you are now!
(Be aware that all of the below things apply to the Allied and Empire factions as well - naturally).

1st of all - make sure you don't fail mission that are given to you by any Federal Minor Factions. Failing missions give more bad rep that completing missions give good rep! Only accept missions if you can complete them!

2nd you need to make sure what the missions want from you; some systems have more minor factions that are subfactions to the feds. If you get a "KILL SOMEONE" mission, make sure that you are not killing ships from any other federal sub factions! Despite getting positive reputation with one faction this will yield very negative reputation with the other, and eventually get you hostile (been there - done that!)

3rd - Try and focus on missions that doesn't give you credits for rewards, but reputation increase. These missions normally don't have any negative side effects.
I've been told that missions that give you money does not only increase your reputation with the faction you are doing the missions for, but also potentially decreases your reputation with other minor factions in the system - have yet to confirm this thou.

4th (this is more of a tip) If you can find a system with an active Combat Zone where a federal sub-faction have a fight with a non-federal faction go and fight in one of those combat zones. This will yield massive reputation increase for that single subfaction! Just be aware that it takes increase with 3-5 federal subfactions to get Naval Progression Missions, so doing a single combat zone will not provide many Naval Missions, if you don't already have good standing with other federal subfactions.

5th - Don't die while doing missions. Most missions are failed upon ship destruction! And it's expensive!

/Confidenze
 
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