The End Game Shouldn't Be Ships

Hi All,

Long ago Blizzard learnt the lesson about making Raids where no one will ever see them. For example NAX. In recent years steps have been made to allow all players to see the content which has taken huge resources to make.

For example, The Anaconda. It must have taken a lot of time and effort to make that ship, but how many % of Elite players have ever flown it? 0.5%, 0.2%?

If it was possible to get these ships without having to spend hundreds of hours of grinding it wouldn't be so much of a waste. I'd rather Frontier took the time from making these ships no-one will ever own and make the base game have more content.

I'd also rather everything in this game was not geared up to getting the next biggest ship. It should be more of a land owning war between players and factions. I just see getting ships as a hurdle to get over, to start enjoying the game.

I can't even be bothered to login right now to try and get a Imperial Courier as it's going to take to much effort. I just want to explore the galaxy and fight other players in a decent ship. Not, to have to grind away like crazy to just start my journey.

Given the payouts of recent CGs, anyone who does about half a dozen of them will be able to afford to buy and outfit an Anaconda.
It is hardly an endgame ship. Now the Corvette and Cutter are a different story.
 
"Hundreds of hours" to get an Anaconda? Well I guess it can take hundreds of hours to learn enough to realize that it takes a couple days at most to earn the money for an Anaconda.

And it only takes a couple minutes in an Anaconda to realize that small ships are way more fun to fly.

This - The anaconda is a pig. It has a nice exploration trick where it jumps further than anything else, and it's good for long distance cargo, but... The small ships... They are fun!

This is what you learn when you reach the big ships, that what you really wanted all along, was to fly the small ships. OK, not quite, but you learn that each ship has a purpose, and small ships are more fun, especially with a HOTAS and pedals, and you can pretend to do Top Gun style stuff in combat, or smuggling in an iCourier, hitting 600m/s whilst flying into the letterbox to avoid a scan, and pulling up just before splatting yourself at the back of the station..

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Imo the asp explorer, python and fdl are a lot more fun than the anaconda.
Buy an asp explorer, make a few sothis runs if you really want to grind for an anaconda and then you can sell it and get something more fun to fly :)

I owned an anaconda for almost two days, flies like a bathtub, fights like a drunken sailor, but if i ever need to haul large amounts of cargo, i will probably buy another.
 
Imo the asp explorer, python and fdl are a lot more fun than the anaconda.
Buy an asp explorer, make a few sothis runs if you really want to grind for an anaconda and then you can sell it and get something more fun to fly :)

I owned an anaconda for almost two days, flies like a bathtub, fights like a drunken sailor, but if i ever need to haul large amounts of cargo, i will probably buy another.

The Asp is my most used in game ship - despite quite a fleet. I'm currently using an Anaconda for Exploration, and another for trading, though will go back to Asp for exploration once I get it engineered a bit. Nothing like getting back in an Asp X after 5 months in an Anaconda (DWE)

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I have all the ships aside from the Corvette, but I'm stuck like glue to my Aspee. It's practically perfect, and practically perfect people use practically perfect ships.

(One day, FD will introduce a long-range Explorer ship, erm.. Asp Voyager or something. Looks like a Type 9, has all the internals of an Anaconda, flies like a Clipper. Then that will be my endgame ship :D )
 
Exactly. Look at my sig and see all the ships I have.
You know what I fly the most?
Corvette for going into a CZ and supporting my Federation allies
ASP - When I have to go far
Imperial Courier when I dont need to kill over 9000 enemy ships all at once or travel 5000 LY. Yes, one of my favorite ships is the Imperial Courier with Dirty Drives 5, Enhanced Thrusters, and Medium Multicannons with a Grade 4 Lightweight Mod on it. ZOOM!
 
I have all the ships aside from the Corvette, but I'm stuck like glue to my Aspee. It's practically perfect, and practically perfect people use practically perfect ships.

(One day, FD will introduce a long-range Explorer ship, erm.. Asp Voyager or something. Looks like a Type 9, has all the internals of an Anaconda, flies like a Clipper. Then that will be my endgame ship :D )

I am quietly hoping the Beluga might be that ship, actually. Large FSD drive, if it's lighter than Cutter then it has potential as even a couple hundred tons under would result in some nice range. eeeally hoping it's not a silly 15 LY constrained ship like Orca. But it is Saud Kruger and they really need some DeLacey or Lakon boffins to teach them how to build an FSD. ;)
 
My main ship is my Python. She is my end game ship. The others are there cause they are more efficient at what they do or just for fun.
Sure I have a cutter for trade and a corvette for CZ combat. Also a Conda if I'm really more interested in reaching those far away destinations like beyond the Rift.
I use a Clipper for mining those engineering mats, cause I'm a bit lazy to re-outfit my Python for mining.
Have a Cobra, iCourier and Sidey, just for the fun of it.
 
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Endgame? What endgame?

It's about what you want to do in the galaxy today. If that happens to be to gain x amount of credits so you can get ship y or module z, then fine. But that is just one of a plethora of options.

Though I'd agree that for those of us with bulging credits balance should be able to buy some more permanent installations. Orbital or on the surface, a hollowed out asteroid, whatever. Just a place to park ones ship that is personal and also perhaps got the possibility of serving some function (cargo storage maybe) and/or make the owner some effortless credits in the long run (automated mining?). You know, return on investment - just like a 700 million trading Cutter. It'll pay off - eventually.
 
There really isn't anything to finish, unless you set a goal for yourself to achieve something.

You want other people to set a motivation point for you. If you don't feel motivated to play don't play, the rest of us will do the things we enjoy doing and you can do something else. It's all very simple unless you need someone to hold your hand for you.
 
A lot of the times a different ship makes no difference to game play.
Trading: The ship you use flying from A to B selling stuff makes no difference per se- the only difference is the credits you make. I discount the tiny difference in defense options because anyone who doesn't want to fight can simply run away during interdictions.
Exploring: The ship you use for exploring only affects how fast you get somewhere. No difference in gameplay.
Fighting: There is certainly a big difference between ships but equipment matters at least as much. You can have equal fighting fun in a Cobra as you can have in FDL. I personally prefer the Python, matter of taste.
Smuggling: Handful of ships to chose from, but in general, makes little difference to gameplay.

What I'm trying to say is this: I own an Anaconda, Python, few Cobras, a T-7, a Viper, and I think I had a FDL at some point too. It makes very, very little difference in the overal game experience if I'm trading in the Conda, the Python or the T-7. Only difference is credits made. It makes little difference to me if I fight in the Python, Cobra or FDL. Now, I do not dispute at all that the individual ships fly and perform different in a combat scenario. Not at all. But the general gameplay is exactly the same.

Trying to own all and gunning for ships will probably not make you happy in the long run. Too little difference they make.
 
Never understood the complains about grinding.. If i could have a conda after one gaming session i would quit right away. I never grind, i just enjoy the journey, i still have 8 Years left to get the conda, and im not even sure i want it, been flying the cobra mk3 about 2 years even if i could afford anything better.

For me there is no endgame, endgame for me would be when FD decides to shut down the servers:p. I just love too powerplay, influence the BGS and it will never end because there will always be someone working agaisnt my goals... If you grind just to get a conda this game is gonna get boring real quick, just enjoy the ship you have, and make the most out of it! Carve out your own little corner of the universe and make a differnece in this sanbox(PP, working BGS for the factions you support). This is and open sandbox, you do whatever you want, this game isnt about reaching 100% complete, its about living in a universe that evolves over the years and your journey to influence how it evolves..
 
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