The Enemy of my Enemy Pact

The Enemy of my Enemy Pact: Expires Jan 1st, the pact may or may not be reinstated after it expires.

The Enemy of my Enemy Pact is put in place to protect all player owned minor factions. In Elite Dangerous you will find that many groups have a different take on things in the Galaxy. Some like to protect and serve and others like to cause grief around the galaxy. You have your Pirates, Police, Bounty Hunters, Miners, Trader, Military, Mercenaries and many other group playstyles poping up around the Milky Way. Because of these differences there are bound to be fights among each other. So to protect all of these groups I have created The Enemy of my Enemy Pact.

The main rule of this pact will be put in place to protect the integrity of every player owned minor faction in the game. This falls along the lines of undermining home systems. The home system of a player owned minor faction is the bread and butter of their group. With the advancement of Elite Dangerous I have come to find that new groups have popped up around the Galaxy with the sole purpose of evicting anyone that owns a solar system. I find this type of playstyle truly damaging to the game.

Some groups especially the larger PvE groups can be completely destroyed with the loss of their home system. Not everyone that plays Elite Dangerous can just forget and move on. This can cause the disbanding of groups and the loss of players within Elite Dangerous. I feel that after awhile the game will turn into a battle of pointless undermining, loss of population and progress into Major Factions comes to a halt.

If Frontier Development would actually balance out the influence gains and losses of Home systems this pact would not need to be in place and we could progress through the game as intended. But in the current build that is impossible. Not only that, but If home systems are constantly being lost due to undermining Frontier Development may look at the factions as a pointless feature and scrap it. They could, however implement some sort of new Minor Factions feature in the wake of this, but the damage would have already been done to those affected before they had got around to fixing it. Now if a group were to expand into another system this rule of not undermining should only apply to the home system of said expanding player owned minor factions, leaving the new system a prime target to be undermined by other groups. This still keeps the factional combat within the game alive but also keeps the groups that own these factions from disbanding.

Now what if someone does not want to follow these rules? The solution is simple. By agreeing to these rules of engagements you are agreeing as a community of common interests. If a group has a home system that is under attack by another that does not follow these simple rules. Then those that do follow these rules should put all rivalries aside even if only temporary (the enemy of my enemy is my friend). With a much larger force defending a player owned minor factions home system (regardless of previous wars or rivalries), you can prevent them from losing their system and ultimately disbanding. Then after the threat is no longer present you can simply leave as friends, or continue on with your rivalry with one another. This small rule is so easy to follow and even if you completely hate another group, they are entitled to the game just as much as you are, the same could be said for attacking a home system. But i feel attacking causes more damage than it helps. You can however continue to gank, grief and fight your enemies as usual. Just don’t strike them below the belt.

Current rules of engagement:

- Undermining of a Player Owned Minor Factions Home system is illegal.
- Undermining of a Player Owned Minor Factions Expanding system(s) is legal.
- If a Player Owned Minor Factions Home system becomes under attack, those that agree to this pact will aid said faction regardless of prior rivalries or disputes.
- The use of the UA to damage station services within a Player Owned Minor Factions Home system should be treated as an undermining attempt on a home system and therefore is illegal.
- The use of the UA to damage station services within a Player Owned Minor Factions Expanding system(s) should be treated as an undermining attempt on an expanding system and therefore is legal.

By agreeing to this pact you agree to all of the above.

Please post your thoughts on the matter and feel free to suggest any changes or additions. This is meant to be a friendly topic so try and keep the flaming to a minimal. As for group leaders that would like to sign this pact please post below and send me a PM with your Groups name and system. If you would like your system to remain private please let me know beforehand. If you do sign this pact please inform your members to come check out this thread.

And to interject before all of these Khan comments pop up. Corvos has done some minor work on Khan and since taken control of a station. As we are primarily a PvP group we do not maintain our system as others do, those that grind influence are usually the new recruits also grinding out credits in conflict zones. This pact was created because of the resent events of our enemies being undermined by another group. I personally have noticed a pattern and would like to prevent further loss of systems as these groups under attack are primarily PvE groups that work hard for their systems. Corvos has put aside all pirating and griefing to help out those that we fight with the most from the threat of undermining.

Groups that have signed The Enemy of my Enemy Pact:

Corvos:
Khan solar system.

Military Militia:
Hip 6796 solar system.

PBSF:
Neto solar system.

E.X.O:
(Pending new terms, helped create the pact)
Wolf 1301 solar system.

Nova Fleet:
(Does not enter into faction warfare)
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Military Militia concurs with these terms and conditions. Anyone flaming this post against the pact members are your enemies. Just forewarning everybody.
 
Not likely this will ever be a thing. To combat others just just tear down their system and protect yours if worse comes to worse.also nice wall of text.

We'll see, is some of the larger factions agree to it that is all we need.

Also a wall of text is something without proper spacing, this would be a sad wall full of holes.
 
I love the idea. I'm currently not even part of a group but preservation of the overall community is a great cause. This just makes sense. Groups can be at war, but if it comes to it they come out of character to defend these minor factions. Sounds great. Any major factions that participate in it are upstanding folks. The kinds of groups I'd like to join when the time to look for one comes.
 
*EXO will vote on it, but we won't sign unless UAs are completely illegal. It is the equivalent of biological warfare due to its effects on stations, and should not be tolerated in expansions or home systems.

I will respond in two days, any other posts from EXO members will be purely opinion and will not be official.

*Edit: Please ignore this, see my post further down the thread.
 
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Deltateam70

Dangerously Fluffy
UA's do not make it so The controlling factions lose their station, So banning them is pointess. Banning em would just make other peope just want to sell 'em to the station even more. Oh we, your station will be effect for a bit, not like their is hundreds and thousands of other stations in the entire galaxy. :p

Other than that, pretty good idea. I have to admit.
 
An interesting turn of events, though predictable. This idea was due to crop up based on recent events and was something I'd been waiting for; I'm just surprised it was Corvos that's brought it forward, well done. With that being said, although I am an independant pilot, and have no real PvP experience, if ever anyone wants an extra pilot to help patrol and defend home systems and such, just send me a message; I'll be glad to help.
 

Deltateam70

Dangerously Fluffy
An interesting turn of events, though predictable. This idea was due to crop up based on recent events and was something I'd been waiting for; I'm just surprised it was Corvos that's brought it forward, well done. With that being said, although I am an independant pilot, and have no real PvP experience, if ever anyone wants an extra pilot to help patrol and defend home systems and such, just send me a message; I'll be glad to help.

^ I agree with this person. Hit me up if you need addition assistance. yea, yea I know, " this guy was the one who was involved in that huge fight at Wolf 1301" yea, my main reason to joining in on that fight was to get some combat experience and to have fun. Which it was. :D

But then again, I'l stil patrol the systems for ya, hell, if you ask me Corvos, I'll come over to Khan and help fight in the Conflict zones to help ya out. ( If the CZ's are still there that is.)
 
UA's do not make it so The controlling factions lose their station, So banning them is pointess. Banning em would just make other peope just want to sell 'em to the station even more. Oh we, your station will be effect for a bit, not like their is hundreds and thousands of other stations in the entire galaxy. :p

Other than that, pretty good idea. I have to admit.
Not like there are hundreds OF thousands of other stations and systems? It's not about that and you know it. I know for my faction a lot of time and thought went into picking our home system. And the process with FDev took weeks. I'm not harping on them for that, this kind of stuff I'm sure takes time and frankly, I don't really see anything comparable in other games.
 
EXO will vote on it, but we won't sign unless UAs are completely illegal. It is the equivalent of biological warfare due to its effects on stations, and should not be tolerated in expansions or home systems. I will respond in two days, any other posts from EXO members will be purely opinion and will not be official.

If the deciding vote is to outright ban the use of UAs for biological terrorism than that can be arranged. I will contact a few other groups to see if they feel the same. Then i will let you know before those two days expire, thank you for your feedback.
 

Deltateam70

Dangerously Fluffy
If the deciding vote is to outright ban the use of UAs for biological terrorism than that can be arranged. I will contact a few other groups to see if they feel the same. Then i will let you know before those two days expire, thank you for your feedback.

Just gonna put this forward, you wont know if someone has put a UA in station until it starts to effect the station. JS. I plan to ony sell UA's to Non- Player faction stations, cuz that large credits you get for it. Worth it.
 
I'm all about PvPing. As long as you're paying the game correctly then I'm good, I just don't want this to be a recurring problem. I'm supporting it only for the sake of keeping faction systems faction systems.
 
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I'm all about PvPing. As long as you're paying the game correctly then I'm good, I just don't want this to be a recurring problem. I'm supporting it only for the sake of keeping faction systems faction systems.

Factions change hands all the time
It's apart of the game mechanics
1 month, faction a is in charge next month faction b is in charge

My point is
make sure you know what your letting yourself in for.
as exo jumped straight in against us
and started attacking our pilots
and we'll you all saw the consequences.
The other night.

But don't get me wrong
We don't want a player faction too lose its home hq or station
Expanding territories are fair game but home hq should not be touched in my eyes

And yes before you say I sold an ua at exo home base
I only did it as a warning, as 1 ua isn't going to do anything on its own
maybe a light bulb will flicker but that's it.

They decided to blow it out of proportion and send threats
saying they won't rest until where in sidewinders.

So we acted accordingly and the massive battles took place
just have a think about who's interest they have in mind
and more importantly
why all of this started
 
Yeah the guy who was going to sell it at khan
Isn't apart of our group
And never was

Crypto and I talked him into selling it else where.
To which why it was never sold at khan.
And I received it from him

And blackmail really
Care to explain that bit along with proof as that is the first I've heard of.

Hahaha Nova fleet really
How little do you know about your allies as it was one of them that crushed you

And it wasn't pbsf

Last thing ill say on the matter of Khan. It was a community effort to remove it from my control. It is now in the past and am planning on the present and future of Elite.

The blackmail thing is hearsay. Being told to ally ourselves with you by threatening our system is not the way to do diplomacy. Then getting all of these pictures and posts of EXO members wanted to attack Khan or sitting in Khan etc etc is just awful.

It is constant public talk of BURN KHAN! Hell i post a thread saying something like "anyone want free money?" the first reply is BURN KHAN!, hell we should have taken Jita instead so at least it can be confused with Eve Onlines version of Burn Khan that is Burn Jita lol.

Ill be back in about 3-4 hours, got some shopping to do, ill check back then.
 
I was in your party arguing with you and someone on my friends list completely unrelated to Elite joined the party to see if i wanted to play Destiny.
 
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