These statements always make me laugh. That is the only way we can interact with the game. We can only press buttons. I don't think many are defending the previous development decisions if any at all.
The epic fail of Beyond
- Thread starter Marcus Tullius
- Start date
- Status
These statements always make me laugh. That is the only way we can interact with the game. We can only press buttons. I don't think many are defending the previous development decisions if any at all.
What?! We have to push buttons to make the game work?
That explains a lot why my ship just hangs in space without doing anything. I thought the game played itself without my input.
(j/k of course)
What?! We have to push buttons to make the game work?
That explains a lot why my ship just hangs in space without doing anything. I thought the game played itself without my input.
Thanks for popping my bubble, now I'll have to start doing things............
I heard rumors that the best way to play this game is to watch Youtube videos. No need to play.
Still trying to find that "walkthrough" vid of ED... how do you win?
Jury's still out.
Ergo, do as little as humanly possible, because the less you do, the less likely you are to upset anyone?
I believe I explained it a few pages ago, but you took it as personal attack for some reason rather than thinking about it. It's really not that hard to understand once you stop trying to see everyone as your enemy who doesn't share your opinion.
Nope, that is not what I have done. What I don't like is the dev name calling, the talk of MVP when it isnt the case, saying that the game is failing or falling apart when it isn't the case, blaming consoles, making up assumptions and peddling them as fact, out and out lying to boost an argument etc. That is what I don't like.
As to some of the design decisions, yes I think they have gone wrong in places and developed stuff at the wrong time. Multicrew for instance is bland because it's just combat which you can do better in your own ship. Adding other rolls though won't work as there are no mechanics to back them up. Hopefully when the new scanning mechanics turn up we may get a utility roll that can scan and navigate for explorers and hopefully some kind of multicrew mission.
I have nothing against what they have done (apart from CQC), it's just the order in why they are doing it which doesn't make any sense. And I include powerpla y I that too, as that should have been the final update for season one giving them much more time to refine it and make it good.
Also we all have different ideas on what will make the game better which is what is discussed and argue over.
Last edited:
If that's the case then they are being too nice. But no, I dont thin that is what they are doing at all.
Everything you're describing may sound very appealing to you, and a few others (yes, including me,) but I'll bet real money the overwhelming majority of people playing the game will find that too complicated, too time-consuming, too grindy. Arguments would be made how "realism sometimes needs to be set aside for gameplay," and casual players will complain they're not being made welcome. There is no "needs to be" in this case. There's "what you want" and "what others want" and "what the developers want."
You do realise that he (and me too) actually agrees with you?
PS
By the way, this is incorrect:
The game is not science based and they are not trying to make it as realistic as possible. Quite the opposite, Devs always said Elite is a game that should be fun. If scoop-honking is fun is a different matter... Anyway, I hope that the exploration updates in 2018 will make it a little bit more complex...
Last edited:
Nobody is defending the status quo though.
Last edited:
Personally I believe that the weaker parts of the game are down to a lack of time.
So we actually agree here: a realistic game would be a simulation; opposite of a simulation game is an arcade game. Elite has definitely become an arcade shooter game. Glad we finally see this the same! Have to mark this thread post and date down.
Beyond as described so far IMO
Last edited:
And you'd be right, if you only take a everything at face-value in perception... however, since when has FD released only announced content?
They've also introduced plenty aside from their announcements on a consistent basis. IMO, people are getting hung up on what's been announced versus what may yet come.
Personally, I'd rather wait to see what the future has in store before complaining about what I've yet to see. YMMV of course.
And now the lies start to push agendas or to try to prove a point.
I have never seen FDev say they are cut. That's you. Also I have interacted with thargoid plenty of times without firing a single shot. What did you want to do with a Thargoid. Sing lullabies around a campfire with one? Have a nice chat with a species so alien that we can't comprehend them. What exactly are you after.
You are making stuff up to justify yourself.
True.
Not true and I will start to simply put people on ignore list way they throw word 'meaningful' around instead of 'I don't like it'.
True.
Not true.
verminstar
Banned
Speaking of stating the obvious, the simplistic mechanic of jump honk scoop wait isnt where any improvement needs be made...refined possibly with a few extra bells and whistles perhaps, but by far where the greatest scope fer adding more meaningful stuff to do are the planets themselves. Really when ye think about it, all the honk really does is give ye a minimap to show where everything is...ye only find out what it is and what is has after actually going there and thats where a great deal of improvements could make a lotta difference.
Changing the jump honk mechanic doesnt just change how exploration works either, it affects just about every other playstyle that includes moving from system to system. The honk part maybe not so much, but that could make life a whole lot less easy if ye never been there before regardless why yer there or what yer doing.
In so far as the basic simplistic design of jump honk wait literally isnt broken, so it wouldnt make sense fixing something that wasnt broken. What would make sense is perhaps improving everything that comes after that...simplistic in design and implimentation now but thats where change is most needed imo ^
Which thankfully sounds like exactly what they intend to do. As to how you could improve the initial honk, maybe have some visual clues come up to make it a bit more interesting, but what I don't want is something that is going to be three times as long, especially when exploring takes enough time as it is.
- Status