The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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Asadaine

Asadaine
Kitty said:
Ive been wondering. As you know system names have a format. Star Field {A}{A}-{A} {A}{N} [{N}]

where: {A} = Alpha character, {N} numeric, [] additional number (not always present).

Has anyone considered using the alpha and numerics to suggest where this rift is ? Is there a clue in the letters and numbers?

Kitty
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Hello Kitty,

It looks like the search may be over (given some technical clarification). See Drew's post on the last page.

"Erimus' position for the Formidine Rift is broadly correct as per the map on this thread, so you are in the right area."

The question is now what lies BEYOND the rift as per the old lady account in Drew's book and what (if any) bearing this has on Salome's continuing adventures!

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clavain

clavain
Jorki Rasalas said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. The Formadine Rift was related in old lore to the Thargoid invasion, so it would be taught in history class, navigation class, & probably every other class. It would be a widely known location & not tied to a private group. :)
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I think you will find (but could be wrong, memory failing with age and space madness) that it was first mentioned in one of Drew's Oolite fan novellas, so was never "official" until its separate mentions in the new official lore novels for ED. Could be wrong and at work at the moment so can't verify. Han Zen likely will recall if it was mentioned in the FFE journals or missions before that or not, I don't think it was. It does not appear in the The Dark Wheel novella.
 
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Cyalope

Cyalope
Han_Zen said:
Rizal is playing Arma 3, so he will not find anything.:D

I agree that finding 'it' based on a massive, organized search effort would be a bit disappointing. Figuring out the clues and finding the X that marks the spot, is much more fun.

Considering what we currently know about the game mechanics and the story, a massive search may still be our best chance for now. I have a feeling we are not supposed to find it quite yet and some necessary clues are still missing.
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Why hide something in the game, if we should not find it now? It would be particularly inappropriate to tell us that there is something to find, knowing that we can not find it ...
Especially since he seems to be in game for a long time.
 

clavain

clavain
Lord Celestine said:
I'm glad someone actually responded to that post! I put a lot of effort into it! I did get lots of rep's from people though so thanks for that everyone! :)

I never did have the chance to play any of the earlier games but I can sympathize with you on the changes they've made to the core of the game. While at the same time I do have my disagreements. I do like the commander driven content, I like that we're able to decide what happens in the game, it allows for me to do what I and many others are doing, by going to the Formidine Rift in search of the unknown. I don't like the fact that they have solo or private play and wish that they would just make it open play, but I can definitely see the desire by others to wish to play alone, and I think an offline mode would be acceptable, but only if they were 'separate' commanders meaning that nothing they did in offline mode would go over into open, that way people can't just go into solo or private groups to avoid players, but those who did actually wish to play a solo play could still do so.
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Just to be clear, and to avoid the risk of kicking off yet another modal tangent, I meant i generally enjoy flying by myself or individually, doing my own thing, which can be done in all three modes. ;-)

I have been known to wing up from time to time or work with others who are also flying individually or in small groups. It is the massive organized crowdsourced everybody flying together and on on teamspeak or discord or whatever that I do not find enjoyable and tend to avoid, regardless of mode. Luckily we can all play it however we want, unless of course you want to play offline.
 

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clavain said:
Just to be clear, and to avoid the risk of kicking off yet another modal tangent, I meant i generally enjoy flying by myself or individually, doing my own thing, which can be done in all three modes. ;-)

I have been known to wing up from time to time or work with others who are also flying individually or in small groups. It is the massive organized crowdsourced everybody flying together and on on teamspeak or discord or whatever that I do not find enjoyable and tend to avoid, regardless of mode. Luckily we can all play it however we want, unless of course you want to play offline.
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I can understand where you're coming from, to me exploration is, 'me time' in the game. When I'm in the bubble though, I really don't mind being in a wing. Perhaps when multicrew comes out it will add a different aspect to exploration. Cruising around in a Corvette and jumping in another system, leaving your best friend behind in that Condor... On the other side of the galaxy... :)
 

Bungalo

Bungalo
Thank you for the quick clarification Drew. Saved me some time today, I look forward to more posts on galnet from you!
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
clavain said:
I think you will find (but could be wrong, memory failing with age and space madness) that it was first mentioned in one of Drew's Oolite fan novellas, so was never "official" until its separate mentions in the new official lore novels for ED. Could be wrong and at work at the moment so can't verify. Han Zen likely will recall if it was mentioned in the FFE journals or missions before that or not, I don't think it was. It does not appear in the The Dark Wheel novella.
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Hi Clavain. I was responding to Agony_Aunt's implication that the Rift location could be a private group-specific thing & not widely known in spacer circles.
I agree - I can't remember the Rift being mentioned in The Dark Wheel or the original Elite.
My view is based on Allen Stroud's Lave Revolution (which I think is canon lore) set in AD3265 ("Reorte to Riedquat is another used trade lane, but local pilots talk about problems in the Formidine Rift") , John Harper's Kickstarter comments ("I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars"), & Drew's Reclamation where the old lady had visited the Rift before AD3280 (she was talking to Salome in AD3300 but from her photo in the Imp databank on Achenar she was aged around 50 when she had her memory wiped becasue of what she'd seen, so at lest 20 years before & probably more). I think Drew's Incursio (not canon) that said "Thargoids came through the Rift, with "incursions at Arusqudi and Orteve, followed by Teorge..."

So I still think that the location of the Formidine Rift should be widely known by spacers in AD3302! :)

Which is not to say that i'm not enjoying the search ... just that I think we would already know the area to start searching in. :D
 
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Scinaya

Scinaya
Jorki Rasalas said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. The Formadine Rift was related in old lore to the Thargoid invasion, so it would be taught in history class, navigation class, & probably every other class. It would be a widely known location & not tied to a private group. :)
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Well, it's not that that unlikely that the Federation and Imperials (and GalCop that was present at the time I guess) would like to polish a bit the history taught. It happened in many places after WWI and WWII, why not after Thargoid wars? If the Rift contains some evidence of the horrifying results of the waged war, it'd be expected, they try to keep the location hushed and out of publicity. Who knows, how dirty they got their hands?

And just about the search: I let out such a huge sigh of relief, when I read Drew's comment above. Huge thanks for clearing things up and getting involved with the community in such a way and not letting us go after our tails.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Jorki Rasalas said:
... So I still think that the location of the Formidine Rift should be widely known by spacers in AD3302!
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I don't know... I tend to think of Drew's fan fiction as being 'legend'. As such the Formidine Rift has drifted into obscurity. I imagine spacers sitting at Jaques' bar trading stories and anyplace in the galaxy where they've run into trouble suddenly being labeled as "the Rift". By 3302 the precise location of the Rift, or what it even is, has drifted into memory, rumor and legend.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Cyalope said:
Why hide something in the game, if we should not find it now? It would be particularly inappropriate to tell us that there is something to find, knowing that we can not find it ...
Especially since he seems to be in game for a long time.
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There is something to find now, but it will be progressively easier to find 'it' as we get more clues. We have a limited region of space and we know planetary landing is not required, but the amount of star systems in the region is so large that we are still almost on 'dumb luck' level.
 

clavain

clavain
Lord Celestine said:
I can understand where you're coming from, to me exploration is, 'me time' in the game. When I'm in the bubble though, I really don't mind being in a wing. Perhaps when multicrew comes out it will add a different aspect to exploration. Cruising around in a Corvette and jumping in another system, leaving your best friend behind in that Condor... On the other side of the galaxy... :)
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I can think of several people I would like to leave behind over there... ;-)
 
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Just finished watching the recording from the Distant Worlds livestream. Even with the visit from Salome... THIS has got to be the coolest thing:

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Another reason for me to kick myself for not signing up :(
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Muetdhiver said:
Has anyone checked NGC 581 completly ?

It falls nicely on the RR line and is connected to London/Cambridge/Uranus by Hershel.
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Nice link, interesting. I have added it to the Sector Search, but it is a bit on the near side of the Rift, and rather spread out. Would be a big job to clear them all.
 

Gypsy12

Gypsy12
OBSERVATIONS ON BLACK HOLE SYSTEMS.

Greetings fellow Commanders.

I would like this opportunity to present my findings on the Black hole systems in and around the Heart and soul nebula.

There are three that I have found after inordinate searching.

We have:

PHRIO PHOE DL-Y G1 :-5352:-60:-3944
PHRIO PHOE ZE-A G2 :-5549:-63:-4822
PHRIO PHOE AA-A H24 :-5829:-1036:-4434

Of all of them, AA-A is the most extraordinary with no less than three black holes and three planets with helium atmospheres. The last one being just visible to the naked eye.
DL-Y contains a lovely visible Helium world and 3 point asteroid belt.
ZE-A contains 2 more suns, a Class B and a T-Tauri.

I would advise in the case of dropping out of SC due to proximity to a Black Hole, you increase your distance to 100km. This will enable a safe return to SC without overloading your components.

An interesting titbit is that you can "Skim" the black hole in question. This will produce a similar sound to fuel scooping. As you will no doubt be aware you should normally be travelling a safe speed of 30km/s. However, due to your relative velocity and high proximity, keeping the ship in skim mode is an art indeed.

Gypsy out.
 

Sikeksis

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I have recently headed out toward the rift, not about 2kly out atm, and I have to say that if Cassiopeia isn't some kind of marker or lighthouse I'm following the wrong line. I had a general idea about what I was doing going out and when people talked about Cassiopeia I really wasn't sure what it was all about, but seeing it seemingly to light my way, the first thing that popped in my mind was I need to follow this brilliant object that keeps pointing the way. Of course it might be like a lighthouse warning of the coming rift, which in this case I hope I don't get lost in the shoals!

Speaking of a lighthouse, I have a ways to decide but I think I'll turn right at the rift, as in, "Right on, commander." ;)
 
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