The gap between Type 7 and above

[Soon(TM)]

Is it just me or is there an immense price gap between the type 7 and any other ship?

I've got around 22 million worth including trade in but that will only get me the clipper and you need the rank for that, if you look at the other standard ships it's like a 20+ million price gap. The type 9 is 56 million, the python is near on the same and the anaconda is stupid money.

So it seems to me there's a ship or two missing at this price point. I mean unless I drop to a smaller ship. There's no where else to go from here for my next 30 million credits worth of grinding!

Puts me off the game to be honest.

I'd prefer to trade rather than fight but I don't see what choice is have now.

It feels like I'm forced to try and get the imperial rank so in can get the clipper now. I don't want the drop ship cos it's not really got the cargo space and the clipper is better in a fight....

 

[Spam]

Don't get too hung up on the "must upgrade" bug.
If trade is getting to be a bit grindy do something else.

For me I went from the T7 to the clipper. More for fun than profit as it's not an increase in cargo hold really.
I did go for the Python as a hauling stepping stone into the T9. Best thing ever. It a license to print money and it's by far my favourite ship to fly as it's like trying to fly a small office block. Every dock is an experience.

Also, take a step back every nown again. The smaller ships are tops. I am currently enjoying hooliganing around in an Eagle and doing trade scouting in a Cobra.

Set yourself goals indeed, but don't forget to enjoy the ride. It's not all about the shiney.

 

[ocflyer]

Is it just me or is there an immense price gap between the type 7 and any other ship?

I've got around 22 million worth including trade in but that will only get me the clipper and you need the rank for that, if you look at the other standard ships it's like a 20+ million price gap. The type 9 is 56 million, the python is near on the same and the anaconda is stupid money.

So it seems to me there's a ship or two missing at this price point. I mean unless I drop to a smaller ship. There's no where else to go from here for my next 30 million credits worth of grinding!

Puts me off the game to be honest.

I'd prefer to trade rather than fight but I don't see what choice is have now.

It feels like I'm forced to try and get the imperial rank so in can get the clipper now. I don't want the drop ship cos it's not really got the cargo space and the clipper is better in a fight....

You can make 2.5 to 3.0M per hour in a T7. I trade for an hour and dogfight for an hour to earn about 4-5M in a night. At that rate, it takes about 6-7 nights to earn 30M. I don't call that grinding.

 

[_Flin_]

Puts me off the game to be honest.

I'd prefer to trade rather than fight but I don't see what choice is have now.

It feels like I'm forced to try and get the imperial rank so in can get the clipper now. I don't want the drop ship cos it's not really got the cargo space and the clipper is better in a fight....

Well... from a Type-6 to an Asp without upgrades it is about 6 hours of playing at 10 k / ton / hour.
From an Asp to a Type-7 without upgrades it is about 6 hours of playing at 10k / ton / hour.
From a Type-7 to a Python without upgrades it is about 18 hours.
From a Python to a Type-9 without upgrades it is about 8 hours.
From a Type-9 to an Anaconda it is about 14 hours.

So from a trading time point of view the price of the Python is about 14 mio to high. (EDIT: Or there is a ship missing in between Python and Type-7)

OP is right.

 

[uncle bulgaria]

You can make 2.5 to 3.0M per hour in a T7. I trade for an hour and dogfight for an hour to earn about 4-5M in a night. At that rate, it takes about 6-7 nights to earn 30M. I don't call that grinding.

Yup, a T7 just prints money, even a pretty poor trade loop will get you 2m per hour and combat can make over 1m/hour too if you keep a combat ship parked up nearby to alternate game play styles. It wouldn't take that long to work your way to a basic Python but I reckon you probably need another 20m to make it good.

I'm toying with grabbing another T7 soon and hitting trading again, i've got my eye on a FdL or Python but I only have assets of about 50m (cash plus my Vulture and Asp).

 

[_Flin_]

It wouldn't take that long to work your way to a basic Python but I reckon you probably need another 20m to make it good.

It's interesting how some people judge "20 hours" or "30 hours" as "not that long".

But then, big ships aren't for everyone.


I am playing with the same ships for 2 months now. And yeah, that includes a Type-7. Haven't upgraded for a looooong time.

 

[bamber]

Its around the ASP price point that you think about specialising your ships I find
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I have a Type 7 that I go make money in to improve my ships its only good for a trader
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I have a cobra that I use for the more <Ahem>delicate trading - I quite often travel a 6 station route in my Type 7 and pick up the 7 day missions for Slaves after 5 days I usually have a mission list for 30 or 40 slaves so jump in to my cobra and pick them up from my supplier. The cobra then is specialise in smuggling (low power, efficient thrusters)
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and I have a vulture to fight around in
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I am improving all three ships constantly and if I wanted could go and sell them all and get a python - but Id then have one ship where as i now have three beauties, Hopefully around 1.3 I'll be looking at a miner and a exploration ship. Im not sure I will go bigger yet - yes Id like a type 89 for the 7 and maybe a FDL for the vulture but I can wait

 

[robbyp]

I've done the Cobra-Asp-T6-T7-Python route and now just in a T9. It just takes time, which I mix up with Dogfighting, first in a Viper, now in a Vulture. You'll get there in the end.

Once I have enough money in the bank after trading with the T9 I'm back to my stripped down Vulture hull and re-equip it. A week of dogfighting, then probably going to get an Asp and go exploring.

I'm not sure I want a Anaconda - that ship is very big and clunky.

Eventual aim is a Vulture/Fer De Lance/Asp/T9 fleet. Then I can mix it as I want.

 

[Jockey79]

It's interesting how some people judge "20 hours" or "30 hours" as "not that long".

But then, big ships aren't for everyone.


I am playing with the same ships for 2 months now. And yeah, that includes a Type-7. Haven't upgraded for a looooong time.

I got my T7 fully kitted out, nothing I can do to it now.... so I used it to get a Viper D rated, then put the dust cover on it.
Viper A rate > Cobra A rate > Now in a Vulture C rate and working on it.

I really enjoy the upgrading process for each ship, then when I get to a set point, it gets a dust cover and I start again (though normally from an Eagle) - it is how I got my T7 to start with, once I had enough upgraded ships to sell off, I sold them all and got my T7 - will do the same for the Python and start the collection again.

Plus I mix it up, I upgrade haulers and fighters. I'm always up to something new, even did out an explorer Asp at one point and took a trip to Thor's Eye and back

Spoiler

(small black hole there).

One day I will have all the ships kitted out - I may cry that day.

 

[Ancipital]

Is it just me or is there an immense price gap between the type 7 and any other ship?

(SNIP)

It feels like I'm forced to try and get the imperial rank so in can get the clipper now. I don't want the drop ship cos it's not really got the cargo space and the clipper is better in a fight....

Yep, that's more or less the size of it.. I wouldn't say any other ship.. The Clipper is a nice incremental upgrade as a trader, and doesn't cost a lot more as a reasonable basic trader loadout. Pick up a Vulture on the side, so you can blow stuff up when you need a break from trading- you can A-rate it for about 27M and you'll be pleasantly surprised how worth every credit it is. You'll be in good shape then, it won't be about "grinding" this or that, but playing what you fancy. Heck, fit up a T6 for exploring if you want, also- it'd be cheap.. then you have loads of options.

Trade when you feel like it, rather than as an obligation, and it will feel like less of a trek.

 

[TriumphANT]

Remember we're still 12-14 ships away from the complete game at this stage, so I'm hoping we'll see everything from a Constrictor up to the hideously unlovable yet lovable Panther Clipper.

 

[uncle bulgaria]

It's interesting how some people judge "20 hours" or "30 hours" as "not that long".

But then, big ships aren't for everyone.


I am playing with the same ships for 2 months now. And yeah, that includes a Type-7. Haven't upgraded for a looooong time.

20m can be earned in 8-10 hours with a T7 no problem. You can still get a lower spec Python well before that and earn that 20m even quicker.

Big ships aren't for me either really, hence why I only have 50m total assets and I've been playing since Open beta. The only reason I'm toying with getting a T7 is to speed up me getting an FdL

 

[Soon(TM)]

Managed to get myself a clipper at last..... What a ship! I think I upgraded too soon though as I don't have enough cash now for the improved FSD so my jump range is pitiful, 90 cargo max or I can't even jump 9ly .... But I don't wanna go back to the T7 now, the clipper is so much more maneuverable and faster!!

 

[Whiterose]

Managed to get myself a clipper at last..... What a ship! I think I upgraded too soon though as I don't have enough cash now for the improved FSD so my jump range is pitiful, 90 cargo max or I can't even jump 9ly .... But I don't wanna go back to the T7 now, the clipper is so much more maneuverable and faster!!

We all do it. Yes I have enough money, we buy it then it limps alonf until we can outfit it properly. I never learn, I do it with every upgrade.

 

[barneby]

dont overestimate 30mil you can make 2mil credits per hour in a t7 with just trading....
(yeah i know still 15 hours) but if you join cg that montain of money melts like ice in a vulcano ;-)

 

[Nagual]

In the current beta, a T7 can pull in nearly 2mil per trip. If you know where to look. Over 4 mil in a T9. Yes those numbers are correct.

 

[Ancipital]

Erk, I should l2read. Delete this if you like.

 

[Commander Starcloak]

The type 9 is 56 million, the python is near on the same

They are? Wow, I've been saving up for the Clipper but I just hit 51 mill. Maybe I should keep going and get me a Python or Type 9?

 

[Katkon]

Are you following Yokai's trading guide - ie how to identify high potential trading systems without using 3rd party tools or known trade routes. Takes some thought/planning, but you'll easily be able to rake many millions an hour if you know how to find a good trading route. I went from having a net asset worth of 15-16M to over twice that in a couple of days simply by learning to trade as the game intended. It doesn't take much time to amass a small fortune at all....