The Missing Waypoints

[Alex Brentnall]

Hello All,

Some of you here may know me others probably won't. I've been around when it comes to exploration, nowhere near the most but probably around the top 100-150 cmdrs (at least judging EDSM stats). Well over 1million ly travelled, over 25,000 systems visited on 3 major trips and a fair few ~35kly round trip power jumping sessions for fuel rat rescues on weekend whims.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=142301 (Crab/Bubble, core and back)
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...tcard-exploration-trip-this-time-with-HD-pics (Sag A* and rtn via nebula)
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/281395-8-months-559-000Ly-and-a-monster-of-a-thread (SW arm, core, DW1 to Beagle, core, Barnards loop, Core, Jaques - Everywhere!)

I've been in the bubble all of 8 months and the itch is well... Itching. When 2.3 drops I'm going and praying there's no Thargoids to ruin my trip. I plan this to be a 500-1mil Ly trip and ideally over 1 billion credits this time in keeping with scaling up each trip. It may not turn out that way but the new rewards and camera suite should keep me entertained long enough.

My issue is I don't have a route or waypoints. My previous trips were pretty easy to plot out but I'm a wee bit lost now. I have 3 or 4 places I want to go all of which I could do in an evening from the bubble. My current route stands at a anti-clockwise circle all the way round the map circumnavigating everything and touching the 4 compass points. Join DW3302 when possible and then I planned to just stick around the 45 degree side of the core opposite Jaques and Sol and see what I can find. Not sure how many people have been over that direction...

As you can see it's pretty much just a "go that way" plan rather than a waypoint map.

I used to really enjoy hunting for planetary nebula so I may do some of that again, not sure how many of those still exist that are undiscovered.


Anyway. What places do you recommend, give me the unusual ones, the ones you found doing passenger missions, the sights that even seasoned explorers don't know about. Basically help me populate my trip, I'm willing to travel 60,000ly for the right sights

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

 

[CMDR EfilOne]

I have something for you

Spoiler

Left around a month ago and somewhat around 2000ly from 3 Geminorum now (Extreme south), gonna try to reach for Shackleton's Star inbetween the void, which is not on the map as Allitnil hadn't discovered it back when I planned the route, but a nice challenge I do hope

 

[mpfj]

I have something for you

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/q5QRWYH.jpg

Left around a month ago and somewhat around 2000ly from 3 Geminorum now (Extreme south), gonna try to reach for Shackleton's Star inbetween the void, which is not on the map as Allitnil hadn't discovered it back when I planned the route, but a nice challenge I do hope

Wow, just wow ... that's an amazing trip you've got planned there

What are you flying ?

 

[Agony_Aunt]

I have something for you

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/q5QRWYH.jpg

Left around a month ago and somewhat around 2000ly from 3 Geminorum now (Extreme south), gonna try to reach for Shackleton's Star inbetween the void, which is not on the map as Allitnil hadn't discovered it back when I planned the route, but a nice challenge I do hope

LOL, someone is looking to get a serious case of space madness.

 

[CMDR EfilOne]

What are you flying ?

This lovely piece of space paper : https://eddp.co/u/gZJdrCru

I have it set up for near-extreme exploration due to the omnivorous nature of this trip, both casually sightseeing worlds and wonders, as well as pushing out in some extremely sparse regions of space, and on certain occasions if possible, push back known galactic beacons to even more distant places ...

Another goal is to gather a fair amount of stellar data, both on stars an planets to hopefully help understand the stellarforge a bit more. The main rule I have it to fully scan at very least 50% of all systems I go through from start to finish. Distant ice balls and Hutton-level lonely secondary stars alike.

LOL, someone is looking to get a serious case of space madness.

I lost all sanity a long, long time ago ... Harmless/Penniless for the last two years (lest two trade runs that technically catapulted me to Dealer, but I'm pondering upon kindly asking FDev to put that rank back to 0%, for kicks )

To get back on the initial question Alex asked, I have a very tiny planetary nebula that I totally forgot to submit in any databases, at Zunaea PD-B e9. No landables but two ringed gas giants orbiting a neutron stars that gives a wonderful view of the planetary nebula from within their rings, given the very faint light coming from the NS.

 

[goemon]

I'm visitig all real galaxy supergiants and hypergiants, which i could identify in the galaxy map via simbad and such - since almost 11 month (with breaks ). around 70 objects.

all started off with visiting theta muscae and x carinae (which would fit nicely to your counterclockwise into the center idea).

if you are interested, i'll happily share my not-orderly-set-up-private spreadsheet with you (I'm planning a thread on it, after the next and last big trip of this project in the general direction of the formidine rift, but that will take longer).

 

[mtt9999 [Parabolus]]

Wowza. Sounds like a great trip. You really missed out on the SHEPARD Mission, exactly what you are describing, science and all! For info on or waypoints, some of them are obviously some touristy locations:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ISSION-Elite-Dangerous-Deep-Space-Exploration

That being said, I have a few fantastic little known places in mind that I would love to share with you. I just need to get back to return my data first! We return back at Sol on May 5th. When are u departing?

-Cmdr Parabolus

 

[equex]

Nice. Got a better version of the map ? (its kind of JPEG artifacted, cant read all the text even when zoomed in)

currently setting up my ASP for extreme exploring after 2.3 hits
id like a look at that spreadsheet too

 

[CMDR EfilOne]

Nice. Got a better version of the map ? (its kind of JPEG artifacted, cant read all the text even when zoomed in)

currently setting up my ASP for extreme exploring after 2.3 hits
id like a look at that spreadsheet too

Here is the original png : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6lMOSMDiLMiMFZ5b1Z1SDBjYUU

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Not sure if it was about my trip or not @mtt9999, but either way : I actually followed the SHEPARD thread as I really liked its scope and goals, unfortunately I couldn't take part in it due to playergroup duties, both on my main and my alt commander.

 

[mtt9999 [Parabolus]]

Nice. Got a better version of the map ? (its kind of JPEG artifacted, cant read all the text even when zoomed in)

currently setting up my ASP for extreme exploring after 2.3 hits
id like a look at that spreadsheet too

Yeh I thought that the forum page eventually led you to the high res jpg on imgur, regardless here is the direct link:

http://i.imgur.com/vt7TE8C.jpg

Also, here is a pdf of the Map:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/th7k0s0kspkywsr/The Shepperd Mission - 6MONTH_print.pdf?dl=0

And here is a detailed breakdown of the waypoints with descriptions [click on link not the preview]:

http://i.imgur.com/Gq0t3LF.jpg

-Cmdr Parabolus

 

[Alex Brentnall]

So to pick up on a few points EfilOne. Wow, that looks insane. I'd not be able to keep to a route as exactly as that, I'd probably deviate within about 4000ly

Goemon - I've already checked most of the super/hyper giants off - Betelgeuse/VY Canis/Theta Muscae/Antares/Rigel.Ez orionis/Ky Cygni/Sadr and a load of procedural ones were all checked out on my last trip... Did too much


Shepard looks interesting but as you said I missed that and also I don't think I'd keep to the schedule, I'm more looking for waypoint like on distant worlds with "This system has a ringed star but the rings are 5 times bigger than any other" or this system has 4 ELWs or anything like New Africa or similar thats interesting to visit outside the bubble. I plan to try and search for a few of these asteroid bases too if I can.

 

[goemon]

Goemon - I've already checked most of the super/hyper giants off - Betelgeuse/VY Canis/Theta Muscae/Antares/Rigel.Ez orionis/Ky Cygni/Sadr and a load of procedural ones were all checked out on my last trip... Did too much

but you missed La Superba (Y Canum Venaticorum), Zeta¹ Scorpii, BC Cygni, V905 Scorpii, Cygnus OB2-12, Rho Cassiopeiae ... besides HDE 269128, HD 268757 or HIP 91239 ... to name a few...?

anyway, La Superba as a the only C-star supergiant is worth a shakedown-run for your build.

 

[mtt9999 [Parabolus]]

Shepard looks interesting but as you said I missed that and also I don't think I'd keep to the schedule, I'm more looking for waypoint like on distant worlds with "This system has a ringed star but the rings are 5 times bigger than any other" or this system has 4 ELWs or anything like New Africa or similar thats interesting to visit outside the bubble. I plan to try and search for a few of these asteroid bases too if I can.

Agreed. I have a series of wicked wild waypoints that we found, interesting systems like your examples, and will send them to you in a few weeks once we land.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

This lovely piece of space paper : https://eddp.co/u/gZJdrCru

I have it set up for near-extreme exploration due to the omnivorous nature of this trip, both casually sightseeing worlds and wonders, as well as pushing out in some extremely sparse regions of space, and on certain occasions if possible, push back known galactic beacons to even more distant places ...

Another goal is to gather a fair amount of stellar data, both on stars an planets to hopefully help understand the stellarforge a bit more. The main rule I have it to fully scan at very least 50% of all systems I go through from start to finish. Distant ice balls and Hutton-level lonely secondary stars alike.


I lost all sanity a long, long time ago ... Harmless/Penniless for the last two years (lest two trade runs that technically catapulted me to Dealer, but I'm pondering upon kindly asking FDev to put that rank back to 0%, for kicks )

To get back on the initial question Alex asked, I have a very tiny planetary nebula that I totally forgot to submit in any databases, at Zunaea PD-B e9. No landables but two ringed gas giants orbiting a neutron stars that gives a wonderful view of the planetary nebula from within their rings, given the very faint light coming from the NS.

Hmmm, one SRV. Lose that and no more planetary landings or jumponium for you. How about a size 4 bay? You might also want to fit a mining laser and a PD that can drive it. You lose half a LY range, barely noticeable.

 

[CMDR EfilOne]

Hmmm, one SRV. Lose that and no more planetary landings or jumponium for you. How about a size 4 bay? You might also want to fit a mining laser and a PD that can drive it. You lose half a LY range, barely noticeable.

A single SRV is part of the challenge For the PD yeah ... Though the 3ly gain as is is handy when exploring the extreme edges of the galaxy (espetially combined with jumponium) ...
Am sitting way too far in the void right now though to get back anywhere inhabited ! (Sitting there right now : https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/11043626/name/Phaa+Eur+GL-Y+e0)

Also given asteroid bases are incoming I'm not really worrying over that. Though I tend to be really careful during that trip and avoid any reckless flying while landing, buckyballing Sol > SagA twice in 3 days in a pre-engineer ASPX during DWE was enough of a learning experience to avoid any shenanigans close to ground-level

 

[Komemiute]

Nice!

Plus "The Missing Waypoint" is a Fantastic name for a Spaceship. Or a Space bar!

 

[Alex Brentnall]

Thanks all for your input. Got a weeks holiday next week but most of the time will only have laptop so no Elite. Hopefully I'll get something of a plan together during that week for when I go out. Then I just have to get a ship build together


On a sidenote this thread has got me thinking:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/63r6wr/possibly_the_rarest_planet/


What is the rarest body in Elite?


Least rare are probably Ice/Rocky moons and planets Then high metal. Then Jovians and terraformables + metal rich. Maybe most star types after that followed by ww/elw/aw.
Right at the top there's obviously ringed worlds. Water giants. Wolf Rayet and Giant stars.
And at the very top the unique ones like Sag A*.


Part of me wants a quest to find elusive objects. I'm coming to the realisation there's very little in the way of Nebula and famous sights I haven't seen already and I could just do several passenger missions to find other "sights to see". They are great but I wanted a more organic trip rather than 3-4 week race out and back.


Water giants may be my new thing. Pick a sector and go hunting. Did planetary nebula last time around and got a good 40-50 to my name which was fun. Planned to do the same again but I figure there won't be many left now.

 

[varonica]

Thanks all for your input. Got a weeks holiday next week but most of the time will only have laptop so no Elite. Hopefully I'll get something of a plan together during that week for when I go out. Then I just have to get a ship build together


On a sidenote this thread has got me thinking:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/63r6wr/possibly_the_rarest_planet/


What is the rarest body in Elite?


Least rare are probably Ice/Rocky moons and planets Then high metal. Then Jovians and terraformables + metal rich. Maybe most star types after that followed by ww/elw/aw.
Right at the top there's obviously ringed worlds. Water giants. Wolf Rayet and Giant stars.
And at the very top the unique ones like Sag A*.


Part of me wants a quest to find elusive objects. I'm coming to the realisation there's very little in the way of Nebula and famous sights I haven't seen already and I could just do several passenger missions to find other "sights to see". They are great but I wanted a more organic trip rather than 3-4 week race out and back.


Water giants may be my new thing. Pick a sector and go hunting. Did planetary nebula last time around and got a good 40-50 to my name which was fun. Planned to do the same again but I figure there won't be many left now.

I am on a mission to visit all these, they are all bodies under 200klm radius, I could only bookmark about 80% of my targets so I am removing bookmarks as I do them and adding new ones in.

It's going to take a while, and some of them are going to need a specialised long jump range ship to get there, my trusty Type 6 "The End of all Things" is not currently up to the task.