The new Tobii eyetracker 4C is awesome
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I found that I actually prefer the headtracking with eye tracking only following the head tracking. Keeps the view much more stable and where I want it. Upgrading to the 4C was certainly worth it.
Ive had mine since release day 
it is brilliant, would not be without it now.
it is brilliant, would not be without it now.
Another one available here if anyone interested, same price, PM me.
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trackIR is a headtracker requiring you to wear a cap, band, clip with leds.
Tobii 4C is a eye-tracker that also has headtracking where you need no cap, clip, band or cables.
Tobii sounds more convinient then. Thanks.
It also has its draw backs, eye tracking wont work for some people, and the eye tracking will not work for multi monitor setups; game support is very limited, which is fine if you only play elite dangerous. After some problems, I sent mine back for a refund after I was told some bright light sources can confuse the heck out of it. Thank god I did not stick it to my monitor, as articles I have read since say it can be a to remove.
Can attest to the quality of their support though who were super helpful and they were happy to refund.
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I'm not quite ready to jump into VR as I want to get a future iteration of the Vive with higher resolution with eye-tracking for foveated rendering. So I thought I'd go for a more temporary solution with the Tobii Eye 4C. With some minor adjustments, it's feeling really good. The problem is my view when I start the game isn't Tobii's Infinite Screen program it doesn't center. I don't know what's going on. Anyone know a way to re-center back to the games default position?
The game or the tracker, I'm not sure which, has decided this is my center.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/385/32282935122_5ab4607595_o.jpg
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
The game or the tracker, I'm not sure which, has decided this is my center.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/385/32282935122_5ab4607595_o.jpg
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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So OK, i have been using TrackIR since i got into this game June 2015, and do like it VM. Reading about Tobii 4 i decided it sound good and bought one.
Setup up on my 40" monitor, and i have to say what a HUGE disappointment it was. I could not get on with it at all and MUCH prefer trackIR. But this is me and me is not everyone.My Experince of Tobii did not get off to a good start as i ordered one from there site. 2 days later i noted that my order was STILL awaiting shipment, so i submitted a support ticket (No phone number that i could see) another 3 days and no reply!! So at this time i went to Amazon and noted that it was cheaper for me to buy it NEXT DAY DELIVERY for LESS MONEY than direct from Tobii???? How's that work Tobii???
So another support ticket cancelling their 4c and i went and bought the one from Amazon. After 8 days tobii decided to answer all my support tickets , (9 of them). They cancelled the order and said my CC would be re-imbursed in 30 days WHY??? it takes about 5 mins to return payment electronically. What the hell i could not be bothered to submit yet another unanswered ticket.
So Setup was a breeze and surprisingly it worked with my 40" although i think they stipulate 34" is max (May actually be 29"?) rather than stick it to the monitor i blue-tacked it in place just in case i did not like it and not wasting a sticky. I was disappointed that it kept losing where i was looking at and in combat that means life or death.
Maybe it was i was so used to TrackIR after 19 months, maybe it was the 40" after all, but it has now been sold, surprisingly for £5 more than i paid for it as when i sold it i pointed out the price from the tobii site
I am not a techie and have no reason technically why it did not work, but i do know what works for me and what does not, unfortunately Tobii 4c did not.
I would warn you that from my experience their tech support is along the line of Madcatz/Saitek and believe me they are BAD!!!
Setup up on my 40" monitor, and i have to say what a HUGE disappointment it was. I could not get on with it at all and MUCH prefer trackIR. But this is me and me is not everyone.My Experince of Tobii did not get off to a good start as i ordered one from there site. 2 days later i noted that my order was STILL awaiting shipment, so i submitted a support ticket (No phone number that i could see) another 3 days and no reply!! So at this time i went to Amazon and noted that it was cheaper for me to buy it NEXT DAY DELIVERY for LESS MONEY than direct from Tobii???? How's that work Tobii???
So another support ticket cancelling their 4c and i went and bought the one from Amazon. After 8 days tobii decided to answer all my support tickets , (9 of them). They cancelled the order and said my CC would be re-imbursed in 30 days WHY??? it takes about 5 mins to return payment electronically. What the hell i could not be bothered to submit yet another unanswered ticket.
So Setup was a breeze and surprisingly it worked with my 40" although i think they stipulate 34" is max (May actually be 29"?) rather than stick it to the monitor i blue-tacked it in place just in case i did not like it and not wasting a sticky. I was disappointed that it kept losing where i was looking at and in combat that means life or death.
Maybe it was i was so used to TrackIR after 19 months, maybe it was the 40" after all, but it has now been sold, surprisingly for £5 more than i paid for it as when i sold it i pointed out the price from the tobii site
I am not a techie and have no reason technically why it did not work, but i do know what works for me and what does not, unfortunately Tobii 4c did not.
I would warn you that from my experience their tech support is along the line of Madcatz/Saitek and believe me they are BAD!!!
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Interesting. I still see some things wrong with the new 4C, although the new patch of the Tobii software solved a number of the problems. (But not all of them yet, i just sent a new pack of data and an update of bug reports to them this weekend. ) So while i very much agree that the software for the 4c is "not there yet" and probably still needs a month to be at a state which i'd consider "actually market ready", i couldn't complain about their support.
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I contacted them when my attempt to order bounced due to the problem with the leaked discount in December. (I was eligible for the discount, as i already had the EyeX. ) The support was friendly and helpful. (Yes, being only able to contact them on the evening, at non-business hours, so they'd reply again when i was at work delayed things a bit, but i couldn't blame them for me only being able to communicate on the evening. ) After receiving the new device, i soon proceeded to their forum for a number of bug reports. Again, their people contacted me based on the forum posts, asking for more detail, logs and stuff. This request could've been a bit more clear, it showed that the people contacting me were technicians who at first started communicating at a level which made sense for them, but was a bit cryptic for somebody who doesn't know their softwares internals. But in the end it worked out. So all in all, i would rate their support to be rather good.
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Where i remain critical is:
- The device still could use a little more detection range to be comfortable.
- Over Christmas there was a number of bug reports on their forums (albeit made by only three or four people), and several of them have the taste of "rolled out without a full test" to me. A bit more testing and quality control before selling a product would be desireable, the paying customer should not be the tester. (Some other problems we found are obscure, i understand that they only are found in the wild, but a few things felt very "basic" and should've been found in a proper QA procedure. )
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Based on my experience with bugs in the EyeX and how they were found and fixed, i would expect this new devices software meet normal quality standards in a few weeks from now, leaving the "be close enough to your monitor or you have problems" as the only remaining issue, where everybody has to know for himself, if he is close enough to his screen during normal gameplay that this device would work for him.
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Hi, did you get it to work? I have an 34" ultrawide from Samsung (S34E790C) and considering to buy the 4C. I'm sitting very close to the monitor, but how well does it work with large curved screens?
If you have been reading any of my above post you will notice that i cannot get on with the Tobi 4c so i have a barely used, not sticky pads used (both still unused), boxed and 'As New' one for sale. I know this forum is not a selling site so please PM if interested in getting one of these dirt cheap! (UK postage only)
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I used Blu Tack to stick my 4c on whilst i tried it out, therefore not using the sticky pads! Blu Tack worked exceptionally well, meaning you can angle it better.
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I used Blu Tack to stick my 4c on whilst i tried it out, therefore not using the sticky pads! Blu Tack worked exceptionally well, meaning you can angle it better.
I have just got the 4c and for me it is unusable, keeps jumping all over the place have been in touch Tobii they suggested trying it with a flight sim DCS World (free from Steam).
In that program all was good so the problem doesn't seem to be the Tobii.
Could any kind Commander help with what there setting are on the Infinite Screen Extension and there settings in game, I know that all setting will be different for each user but it may be a start.
I have been trying for two days solid now, (I am retired so it has been almost none stop trying0
Thanks in advance.
In that program all was good so the problem doesn't seem to be the Tobii.
Could any kind Commander help with what there setting are on the Infinite Screen Extension and there settings in game, I know that all setting will be different for each user but it may be a start.
I have been trying for two days solid now, (I am retired so it has been almost none stop trying0
Thanks in advance.
Saw that Ghost Recon: Wildlands has great built-in support för Tobii. They have a campaign where you get that game if you order the Tobii here (limited supply): https://tobiigaming.com/games/ghost-recon-wildlands/
Video showing how Tobii works in Ghost Recon: Wildlands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jAqeuJxTDo
I'm checking out Tobii for Elite Dangerous and other games, but haven't decided yet. It would be nice if ED got built-in support for Tobii in the future.
Video showing how Tobii works in Ghost Recon: Wildlands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jAqeuJxTDo
I'm checking out Tobii for Elite Dangerous and other games, but haven't decided yet. It would be nice if ED got built-in support for Tobii in the future.
I just purchased this from Amazon actually, looking forward to it! I own a TrackIR 3 for years (since 1999) and I am familiar with head-tracking - I just wanted to upgrade my TrackIR and picked the Tobii after doing a bit of research.
I have a question though... the 4C is able to do both eye and head tracking. How do you guys configure your setups? Head-only? Eye-only? Head-and-eye tracking? How the heck does it even track your head?
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Don't give up. This is very likely because you've never used a tracking device before, and you have never realised just how much unconcious head/eye movements you make when playing a game. Only a tracking device will reveal your habits to you Eventually you learn to control it.
The first time I hooked up my TrackIR 3 (1999), the screen was jumping all over the place because I was physically leaning in and out of turns in my plane (Janes F/A 18, Falcon 4 et al). Eventually I learnt to set up my deadzones and curves and it got better. I also realised and controlled my unconscious movements so now I no longer have this kind of problems.
I have a question though... the 4C is able to do both eye and head tracking. How do you guys configure your setups? Head-only? Eye-only? Head-and-eye tracking? How the heck does it even track your head?
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Don't give up. This is very likely because you've never used a tracking device before, and you have never realised just how much unconcious head/eye movements you make when playing a game. Only a tracking device will reveal your habits to you
Eventually you learn to control it.The first time I hooked up my TrackIR 3 (1999), the screen was jumping all over the place because I was physically leaning in and out of turns in my plane (Janes F/A 18, Falcon 4 et al). Eventually I learnt to set up my deadzones and curves and it got better. I also realised and controlled my unconscious movements so now I no longer have this kind of problems.