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So how does the world convince them to be more open, rather than alienating them?

Ask Nixon. It was his idea.

Oh wait, he's dead.

Ask Kissinger. It was probably really his idea, but Nixon took credit for it.

Biggest failure of the 20th century
 
Keep seeing references to "grow your own food" all over the media internationally.


My country is handing out seeds for people to plant.
Clearly, they think something is going on.
It's been a few years since I was in T&T but from what I remember, there are significant agricultural areas used for non food crop. :sneaky:
 
Got a delivery of vegetables from a local farm. About 80 pounds of stuff. We cleaned, cut and repackaged, and I did the drop off to relatives, first time outside in 2 weeks. (Well, other than the night call outs.)

Almost 100% of humans had masks. Traffic nearly zero. All businesses closed and shuttered. Amazing. Drove for miles, without a single latina streetwalker trying to hail the car.

One lone bloke was trying to sell cotton candy at a traffic light.

All in all, it's much better than before the epidemic.
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Toilet paper is a problem because people are home and not using commercial / public bathrooms, according to an article featured on MSNBC last week.

The 2 types of rolls are different, have different distribution ecosystems, and no overlap. There is a glut of the single ply, recycled giant roll wood chip stuff, and a shortage of the quilted fluffy white double ply home product.
Public toilets 🙄 well if you want to be sick just use it, I would rather do it at home.
 
UN and WHO is not needed, huge money pits.

Before defunding and starting to dismantle the WHO, it would be a good Idea to have a look at what else they are doing besides all that current Pandemic stuff...and see whether all of that, or even just some of that work ( lets say on smallpox, ebola, and measles, for starters ? ) , can be continued without anymuch interruption .


There ARE good people in the world !
 
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Despite it's flaws, the WHO is a bargain for the services it provides. I can't imagine any remotely plausible scenario where a world absent an international health system like the WHO doesn't cost almost every one currently funding the WHO way more than they are paying for the WHO.
What will happen is they will be reformed, the defunding is just wake up call, we need the same regarding the UN.
 
What will happen is they will be reformed, the defunding is just wake up call, we need the same regarding the UN.

Idk how many member States there are in WHO, but certainly more than one . I am waiting to see how that whole thing plays out, but there is a chance all the OTHER members will, after the initial Hubbubb, not be too fuzzed about one member dropping out . Or at least not allow the very same member who endagers a lot of very important work - and Lifes in the course btw. - by ill advised actions to reform the WHO to its own liking .
 
The United States deplored 2,569 deaths between 8:30 p.m. local time on Wednesday and the previous day at the same time.

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Antibody testing is expected to begin shortly. Soon, several representative studies will give the country an accurate idea of how many Americans have been infected in the past few months. With a more trustworthy denominator to compare against known deaths, we will finally learn just how lethal the virus is and whether comparisons to a severe annual flu are legitimate or still inapplicable.

To answer this one, today the RIVM announced the results of a large-scale study antibody test study in the Netherlands. Their conclusions:

1) Approximately 3% of the population has detectable antibodies.
2) This results in an expected mortality of roughly 1% (compared with 0.1% of the flu).
3) It also means 'herd immunity' will be achieved only in many, many years so we can safely ignore that concept when making plans for the future.

So it basically confirms what common sense suggested: yes, number of cases are vastly underestimated, yes number of fatalities are underrated but not to the same extend, but no the mortality is still an order of magnitude higher than with the flu. The hospitals are filled for a reason.
 
Armed protesters demand an end to Michigan's coronavirus lockdown orders

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