The Secrets Of Dr.Wu - Disappointing (Contains Spoilers)

[TheGoldblumLaugh]

First off - i don't seem to have the function to hide lines of text so this thread will contain spoilers - unless an admin could be kind enough to edit this post on my behalf to do this for anything they consider a spoiler.

Hi - i recently purchased The Secrets Of Dr.Wu DLC for Jurassic World Evolution. Being a big Jurassic Park fan ever since the first film, i found this DLC a little disappointing. Some good points but the trailer is very misleading.

Lets start with the Trailer - the trailer showed splicing of dinosaurs like it was a function you could do - any two dinosaurs together to create a new hybrid. But in reality it is only 3 new additions that are just unlocked during a mission. This was a huge let down for me as this was something i was really looking forward to. The trailer also showed new islands??? not different parts of the same existing islands. although it is good that we got extra hidden areas, they was just not appealing enough to warrant them in that fashion.

Ok now on to the actual game, as much as i like your new day and night switch - the frequency is too quick. when playing one of the Dr.Wu missions with a Hybrid it went night and day twice during that time. Which made it hard to see what dinosaurs were fighting at night resorting to go into map mode just to see where they was. 5 times I had to restart and do again certain missions because of this.

For DLC - Lack of new buildings... I mean come on a bigger weather unit - the function of the old one wasn't really helpful and the bigger one only does exactly the same thing just with a bit more advanced warning and coverage. I really felt this was a let down as from a perspective of a Park Architecture. We are missing a lot of aesthetics that makes the core elements of the park. Little signs, posters, carts, people dressed as dinosaurs walking around with balloons... there is only so much we can do with what we already have and the variations are starting to dry up. New dinosaurs are great but we need to display them differently. I have a few ideas - was gonna save them for the request list but as i am on a rant about this DLC i feel i should address it here.

1. Dino & Facilities Signposts - its one of the few things missing and some of those was iconic. Idea how it could work is that you have the Dino paddocks depending on which dino you have in it, will display the logo for that Dino. And the signs for facilities the arrow changes direction depending on where you place it.

2. The classic buildings - i know this is Jurassic World and not Jurassic Park but the fans are crying out for the classic visitor centre.

3. finally - the cars on tracks from the first film. This ties in to what i mentioned in point 2 but i have an idea how you cold possibly do this. The cars on tracks you could have an alterative skin mode for the Gyrosphere where you can get the classic 1993 cars on tracks and the enterance is the classic Jurassic Park doors that way you could lay the track in a controlled paddock, have cars riding around a track and it follows the same principle mechanics as the Gyosphere - basically all it would be is jus ta change in looks and some animation changes.

P.S

bonus item - Give us the ability to make our own Hybrids.!!!!!!!!

 

[Paul_Crowther]

Jurassic World Evolution is based around the Jurassic World franchise so our focus is on dinosaurs shown or inspired by the film. In particular some of the hybrids in Secrets of Dr. Wu can be seen hinted at in the computer screens in Dr. Wu's lab. This means all of our hybrids are made along with guidelines and support from Universal Studios so they reflect the style and look of the Jurassic World franchise. To be able to offer custom hybrids would require making new dinosaurs for every possible combination, that's over 2000 with all the dinosaurs currently in the game. All of those dinosaurs would have to be modeled, textured, animated, rigged, given individual stats, given database entries, tested and so on. Basically such a feature would be a new game all by itself.

 

[South Tyrant]

(Paul Crowther) Would it be possible to make a DLC of nests with male dinosaurs?

 

[TheGoldblumLaugh]

Compsognathus

Jurassic World Evolution is based around the Jurassic World franchise so our focus is on dinosaurs shown or inspired by the film. In particular some of the hybrids in Secrets of Dr. Wu can be seen hinted at in the computer screens in Dr. Wu's lab. This means all of our hybrids are made along with guidelines and support from Universal Studios so they reflect the style and look of the Jurassic World franchise. To be able to offer custom hybrids would require making new dinosaurs for every possible combination, that's over 2000 with all the dinosaurs currently in the game. All of those dinosaurs would have to be modeled, textured, animated, rigged, given individual stats, given database entries, tested and so on. Basically such a feature would be a new game all by itself.

Then the trailer could of been a little bit more explanatory that this is not a splicing add-on but you have extra spliced animals to play with.

either way. Could you not get licensing for Jurassic Park to add into the Jurassic World Evolution games?

we need more items to decorate the parks...

I understand why Compsognathus is a challenge but to add because they are so small. I feel like the Tradoon are a homage in a way to them. similar looks but larger birds.

I figure you could include the Compsognathus but make them unrealistically bigger and when you create them in a lab you don't create 1 you create maybe 2 at a time.

 

[Camargo]

Jurassic World Evolution is based around the Jurassic World franchise so our focus is on dinosaurs shown or inspired by the film. In particular some of the hybrids in Secrets of Dr. Wu can be seen hinted at in the computer screens in Dr. Wu's lab. This means all of our hybrids are made along with guidelines and support from Universal Studios so they reflect the style and look of the Jurassic World franchise. To be able to offer custom hybrids would require making new dinosaurs for every possible combination, that's over 2000 with all the dinosaurs currently in the game. All of those dinosaurs would have to be modeled, textured, animated, rigged, given individual stats, given database entries, tested and so on. Basically such a feature would be a new game all by itself.

Looking to the good side, at least the game did not become a horrible sight, with millions of types of hybrids scattered everywhere.

As the creator of the post said, I am another JP fan. What people like me want is dinosaurs, just normal dinosaurs.

Damn hybrids. Already had your DLC for those who like.

 

[Crobek]

It literally tells you what's included in the description when you purchase the DLC. The same information was also widely available for weeks prior to release.

All you had to do was read two paragraphs and it would have saved you the money, the disappointment and time writing this bizarre and pointless thread.

 

[DragonNTiger]

Seriously?! Are you really complaining that the DLC was "Dr. Wu's Secrets" and not "Back to Jurassic Park"? What exactly is the point of this thread then... beyond more whining anyways?

Looking to the good side, at least the game did not become a horrible sight, with millions of types of hybrids scattered everywhere.

As the creator of the post said, I am another JP fan. What people like me want is dinosaurs, just normal dinosaurs.

Damn hybrids. Already had your DLC for those who like.

You want... normal dinosaurs? In a Jurassic Park game?! Dude, if you want normal dinosaurs then go play a different game! Because barring fan mods these dinosaurs will never, ever be normal... even before you factor in the hybrids.

I understand why Compsognathus is a challenge but to add because they are so small. I feel like the Tradoon are a homage in a way to them. similar looks but larger birds.

I figure you could include the Compsognathus but make them unrealistically bigger and when you create them in a lab you don't create 1 you create maybe 2 at a time.

First of all, where did the talk over Compsognathus come from... and second, making them unrealistically bigger and making them in pairs? I hate both of those ideas...

Honestly it's crap like this that makes it impossible for me to take the hybrid haters seriously... you people say you want real dinosaurs but, 1) all of the dinosaurs are fake in some way to start with and, 2) people suggest ideas that take real dinosaurs and dumb them down with fake nonsense...

*sigh* ...nope, can't take you people seriously at all...

 

[Flint2025]

The employee speaking of only working on JW films feels like a gut punch...... So basically we're never gonna get any JP content ever????? You guys put the Jeep in there, so why pretend like you cant do something? If we dont ever get JP content it will be the biggest crime against the fans of this franchise ever. Half of the unlocks in the database are photos of the original two films for crying out loud!!!

 

[Flint2025]

but btw this thread contained no spoilers lol

 

[Jurassic_DX]

The employee speaking of only working on JW films feels like a gut punch...... So basically we're never gonna get any JP content ever????? You guys put the Jeep in there, so why pretend like you cant do something? If we dont ever get JP content it will be the biggest crime against the fans of this franchise ever. Half of the unlocks in the database are photos of the original two films for crying out loud!!!

I don't know where you got that impression.

Frontier has always said JWE was based on Jurassic World and they never said that precludes them from adding Jurassic Park stuff in the future. I would say that we got the Jeep Wrangler was pretty lucky in itself since there is additional licensing needed from Jeep for its use and same would have to apply if we get the Ford Explorers in-game at some point or any of the many Mercedes-Benz vehicles prominent in the Lost World and both Jurassic World films. Besides, playing through the base game, what Dr. Wu was up to was always an open question that wasn't answered at the end of the Career Mode. I think we should have seen this one coming, it was probably planned from early on to tie up that story detail and they left themselves room to move ahead with it. Think of it in this light, now that the hybrid arc is more or less done now (since the result of the experiments was the creation of the Indoraptor) that leaves future DLCs to focus on other things people have requested.

The amount of stuff from Jurassic World in the game already is pushing the limits of what was shown on film. I imagine Universal would like Frontier to have a big tie-in DLC for Jurassic World 3 when it releases. That pretty much means anything teased in Fallen Kingdom like Dreadnoughtus are probably not going to happen until said time. The Stegoceratops in the DLC was taken from a screen briefly seen near the end of Jurassic World, so now think of all the other possibilities that Frontier can work on and add to the game between now and Jurassic World 3. That is a lot of time to flesh the game out more and include all sorts of content. Moreover, Jurassic Park is still part of the story in Jurassic World as there are references and imagery from it literally all over the place.

So summarize this long-winded reply. This DLC was probably decided early on to fill the story gap left from the base game, most Jurassic World centered things are already in the game, and new DLC hold the promise for lots of new things.

 

[Sukribo]

Jurassic World Evolution is based around the Jurassic World franchise so our focus is on dinosaurs shown or inspired by the film. In particular some of the hybrids in Secrets of Dr. Wu can be seen hinted at in the computer screens in Dr. Wu's lab. This means all of our hybrids are made along with guidelines and support from Universal Studios so they reflect the style and look of the Jurassic World franchise. To be able to offer custom hybrids would require making new dinosaurs for every possible combination, that's over 2000 with all the dinosaurs currently in the game. All of those dinosaurs would have to be modeled, textured, animated, rigged, given individual stats, given database entries, tested and so on. Basically such a feature would be a new game all by itself.

Please bring more AI behavior. "Basic" Herding mechanic in last update was the most awesome element that you guys bring into the game so far but it still need to be improve furthermore.

 

[Sukribo]

Then the trailer could of been a little bit more explanatory that this is not a splicing add-on but you have extra spliced animals to play with.

either way. Could you not get licensing for Jurassic Park to add into the Jurassic World Evolution games?

we need more items to decorate the parks...

I understand why Compsognathus is a challenge but to add because they are so small. I feel like the Tradoon are a homage in a way to them. similar looks but larger birds.

I figure you could include the Compsognathus but make them unrealistically bigger and when you create them in a lab you don't create 1 you create maybe 2 at a time.

How bout use the idea compy's become the cleaner of dead dinosaur remains rather than use helis to pick it up one by one?? It will interesting to see.

 

[JurassicMan1984]

We don't need more hybrids. They are not of interest. We need more real dinosaurs, more buildings and flying reptiles and aquatic reptiles like seen in the movies. Otherwise it don't feels like Jurassic World.

I agree. This DLC was with the exception of olorotitan, which is far too small in the game and troodon very disappointing

 

[DragonNTiger]

How bout use the idea compy's become the cleaner of dead dinosaur remains rather than use helis to pick it up one by one?? It will interesting to see.

Because then it isn't really a dinosaur... from a gameplay perspective specifically. It's also kind of a silly idea if you ask me... if a large carnivore isn't able to clean up a carcass on its own, what hope do a bunch of tiny bug and rat-eaters have?

 

[Sukribo]

Because then it isn't really a dinosaur... from a gameplay perspective specifically. It's also kind of a silly idea if you ask me... if a large carnivore isn't able to clean up a carcass on its own, what hope do a bunch of tiny bug and rat-eaters have?

It's the one way Compy's can get into the game since their body size are actually the issue. It makes sense from my prespective, just make it as facility that can integrated with paddock fence like incubation building where it can deploy them inside the paddock area to clean the dead body since all carnivore isn't able to clean up the carcass by their own, atm or you have another better ideas to share with us to make Compy's fit into the game??

 

[DinoWhisperer]

yeah i don't like this dlc i didn't buy it... i think the hybrid herbivores look ridiculous.


as much as i like the game and want to support it i won't buy content that i find uninteresting

 

[Selim No Kashi]

yeah i don't like this dlc i didn't buy it... i think the hybrid herbivores look ridiculous.


as much as i like the game and want to support it i won't buy content that i find uninteresting

the gene modifications were nice though, but i share your sentiment, it wasn't enough to get me to buy it immediately. doesn't add anything to the replay value. after 8hrs of story then it's back to the same old stuff but just with new dinosaurs. meh, i'll get it when a sale comes...

 

[DinoWhisperer]

Jurassic World Evolution is based around the Jurassic World franchise .

that's unfortunate because the jurassic world movies are terrible... if i had a week i couldn't explain all the reasons why these movies suck.

i feel these jurassic world movies are holding the game down and hinders it's true potential cause you gotta limit the game to the stupidity of these movies since the game is based around them

like if the next movie is gonna have yet another stupid hybrid you're gonna have to do the same here and add it to the game instead of using that time and resources for something better

 

[Parritron]

Well, I don't think that Frontier will add, new hybrids after this DLC. We have enough hybrids. Next DLCs must be about other things.

Next dino pack must be about JPOG dinos. Is a masive request. We need these dinosaurs, especially Acro, Albertosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus.

 

[Jurassic_DX]

that's unfortunate because the jurassic world movies are terrible... if i had a week i couldn't explain all the reasons why these movies suck.

i feel these jurassic world movies are holding the game down and hinders it's true potential cause you gotta limit the game to the stupidity of these movies since the game is based around them

like if the next movie is gonna have yet another stupid hybrid you're gonna have to do the same here and add it to the game instead of using that time and resources for something better

The Jurassic World films have done quite a lot to push the franchise forward from the point of stagnation it found itself. Its easy for people to just nitpick the films to death, but they actually have some real depth to the ideas they propose. Everyone criticizes Hoskins' idea of weaponizing raptors, but just because it doesn't explicitly spell it out doesn't mean the idea is lacking in any grounding. Its easy to dismiss a raptor for war as a dumb idea or creating a hybrid, but in reality you can find some good reasoning for weaponizing animals, but ultimately the failure of Hoskins and the Indoraptor getting lose demonstrate that the entire endeavor was a fool's errand destined for disaster. The dialogue in the films could certainly use work and exposition to flesh ideas out is required, but people already complain about exposition dumps but then also complain when the film doesn't explain every little detail to them.

Moreover, if you already seen my prior post, at no point did Frontier ever say there was not going to be Jurassic Park material added to the game. This DLC was expected just based on how the story was never finished from the main game about what Dr. Wu was doing. On top of that, before this DLC released I actually seen a fair number of people excited and asking for new hybrids. While I am not particularly fond of them either, some people are and there was a story to finish up. Just have to be patient, Frontier is moving onto new areas of work for the game.

Colin Trevorrow already confirmed there are not going to be anymore hybrids for Jurassic World 3. If you watched Fallen Kingdom, near the end of the film you should have noticed what Mills was carrying and that the Tyrannosaurus crushed it. It was a pretty blatant way of informing the audience that there was no longer any possibility for Wu to create more hybrids now that the Indominus Rex's sample was destroyed. They even followed this up with teasing real dinosaurs across the whole of the world both in the living creatures, but also the embryos too.