The Size Issue, and others

konstour

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The yet unaddressed size issue.

Frontier devs thank you in advance,

Everyone has been pointing out the size issue of certain dinosaurs (spinosaurus,giganotosaurus etc) and i hope that eventually this issue will be solved.
The size of these dinosaurs may have been accurate in real life but there is I-rex and I-raptor so there is no reason in making the other dinosaurs realistic and not just like the way the were in the franchise.I do not mean that you should nerf tyrannosaurus but instead to simply resize spinosaurus and giganotosaurus.
 

Grimnir

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Parritron said:
It does not matter how much we disagree about the centimeters. What matters is that Giga must be urgently enlarged to a much greater height. Only I-Rex, T-Rex and Spino should be at his height or above him.

Then we can disagree on the exact length and height but the main thing is that Giga must give a good squeeze to put where it should be that is in the same league of the colossal theropods.
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Making it equal in size but give it the thinner chest cavity as seen on the skeletons would get my approval. Right now it has the same barrelized chest cavity as the T-rex. I still think that the giganotosaurus from The Isle has the most accurate model so far. And there its not as dangerous as the T-rex but has the best bleeding damage in the game.

So its an accurate representation if you ask me.

Edit: It is more close to a Tyrannotitan than Mapusaurus right now. Mapusaurus has quite a different silhouette than its kin.
 
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Parritron

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Frontier, what did you do with Allosaurus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzNjJnBCOpU

A dinosaur much smaller, lighter and with a ridiculous bite VS the biggest bite of all the dinosaurs, a weight three times greater and a totally advantageous height.

Allo wins ... Frontier ... what were you thinking? One thing is to make mistakes with size and another thing is to put ridiculously high stats on a medium carnivore.
 

Dinoken

Dinoken
I tend to agree - in a real world fight - NO Way does a 12 meter long Allosaurus beat a T.rex. T.rex's bite pressure is at least 5 times higher.

The Allosaurus' bite is designed to leave a slashing wound to create lots of blood loss. Where as the bite of a T.rex - is designed to kill or severe wound in a single bone crushing bite.

While do think Allosaurus' weight should be at least 4-5 tons at 12 meters/39.4 feet long.

Either Allosaurus's combat stats should be lowered - or T.rex's combat stats increase to make the battle more accurate.
 

Grimnir

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Dinoken said:
I tend to agree - in a real world fight - NO Way does a 12 meter long Allosaurus beat a T.rex. T.rex's bite pressure is at least 5 times higher.

The Allosaurus' bite is designed to leave a slashing wound to create lots of blood loss. Where as the bite of a T.rex - is designed to kill or severe wound in a single bone crushing bite.

While do think Allosaurus' weight should be at least 4-5 tons at 12 meters/39.4 feet long.

Either Allosaurus's combat stats should be lowered - or T.rex's combat stats increase to make the battle more accurate.
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The Pre-release footage had bleed damage. So its kinda weird that they removed that. If that was the case they could split carnivores into bleeders and biters. Like Allosaurus and Giganotosaurus are bleeders, which seems to be the norm with allosauroidea's in general.
 

hsf_

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Grimnir said:
The Pre-release footage had bleed damage. So its kinda weird that they removed that. If that was the case they could split carnivores into bleeders and biters. Like Allosaurus and Giganotosaurus are bleeders, which seems to be the norm with allosauroidea's in general.
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Very much so, the way they evolved was very different from other large Theropod families. I don't know if you ever watched the BBC documentary series "Planet Dinosaur"? They went into detail on the Allosaurus hunting techniques, backing it up with fossil evidence. The CGI is pretty bad though D:
[video=youtube;YSGdowqESaQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSGdowqESaQ[/video]
 

Dinoken

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Yes - the allosauroids are basically "bleeders" - that is predators which bite they prey and their prey slowly bleeds to death.

Where as T.rex was a bone-crusher - that is it could kill it's prey with a single well placed bite.
 

GonerMcGoner

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hsf_ said:
Very much so, the way they evolved was very different from other large Theropod families. I don't know if you ever watched the BBC documentary series "Planet Dinosaur"? They went into detail on the Allosaurus hunting techniques, backing it up with fossil evidence. The CGI is pretty bad though D:
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The BBC makes fantastic nature shows. I thought the CGI was alright.
 

Garjunior

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Dino real size??? This game is so gg. An IndoRaptor can hunt down the mighty Giga or Spino. Hello, logic a bit please ... By jaws diff, once Spino bite on the IndoRaptor, it is dead meat already. By size, Spino sure can swallow it. May be by speed Spino loss ... Hmmm ... I need do more CG research. Haha!!
 

Dinoken

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Well - to figure how the Indoraptor would have faired against the big Carnivores - all we really need to do is look at how it faired in JW: FK.

Granted - the only dinosaur it fought against was Blue - but then Blue was able to put up quite a formattable challenge. And this is inspite of the fact that the Indoraptor is about 85% longer, and at least 6 times more massive. I honestly believe that Blue with 2 of her 3 siblings (Charlie, Delta. & Echo) would have over powered the Indoraptor. But if a single Velociraptor was able to give that tough of a fight - then the Indoraptor should basically lose to any of the 5 biggest carnivores(Allosaurus, Giganotosaurus, Indominus rex, Spinosaurus or T.rex).
 

Wraithbourne

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Dinoken said:
Well - to figure how the Indoraptor would have faired against the big Carnivores - all we really need to do is look at how it faired in JW: FK.

Granted - the only dinosaur it fought against was Blue - but then Blue was able to put up quite a formattable challenge. And this is inspite of the fact that the Indoraptor is about 85% longer, and at least 6 times more massive. I honestly believe that Blue with 2 of her 3 siblings (Charlie, Delta. & Echo) would have over powered the Indoraptor. But if a single Velociraptor was able to give that tough of a fight - then the Indoraptor should basically lose to any of the 5 biggest carnivores(Allosaurus, Giganotosaurus, Indominus rex, Spinosaurus or T.rex).
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Worth noting that Blue was equipped with plot armour for the fight, also objectively the majority of the fight took place in a bedroom which as a confined space (at least for something the size of the Indoraptor) would lend the advantage to Blue as the smaller combatant since she had greater ease of movement. Also given Owen shot it 3 times just beforehand and didnt even penetrate the hide the Indo is clealy more powerful than just size would suggest. In a "realworld" fight the Indo would have slaughtered Blue for fun.

That said, unlike the Indominus which had the size and power to overwhelm Rexy in short order when it was a 1v1 fight the Indoraptor is obviously designed to target people and as such wouldnt be able to fight any of the apex predator sort of dinosaurs, at least not in a fair fight, given it was smart enough to pretend it was knocked out to break out of containment its possible its smart enough to target the weak point of all large bipedal dinosaurs (the legs) and cripple it with bites/slashes to the tendons back there first before moving up to the neck or other vital area for the kill. Another reason to enhance the games fight AI I guess
 

rune cape

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joe49115 said:
I know many other people have talked about this, but here goes....

Part 1: Size. The Spinosaurus and Giganotosaurus are extremely undersized. they should both be bigger than T-Rex, and a bit smaller than the Indominus Rex. This is a very bad mistake, and I hope Frontier fixes this soon.

Part 2: Some models. The Deinonychus crest is very controversial. I think some people would like it if you can change the physical shape of the dinosaur, like a crest-less Deinonychus, or Edmontosaurus. and also, the folded frill on the Dilophosaurus body doesn't look to well in my opinion, and it wasn't showed in the movies. an option for that as well would be appreciated. Also, a question. Why is the Mamenchisaurus model not the one from the movie?
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take a look at this youtube link the vid will awnser your question about the size of some dinos and that they cant fix them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfDaMM-b540
 

paleostudent

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There is no issue, since it doesnt matter at all for the game, diverse terraforming tools would be really important but that will never happen either.
 

Deleted member 185432

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Is dino sizing the biggest threat to frontier?


Well i heard alot of reports of dino sizing problems like trex is bigger than the rest of the carnivores and the one thing i fear the most is can Frontier counter that problem i just hope it does cause if they cant then that would be the like the disease for the game where everyone will slowly hate it cause of the dino sizing problem and i wish for that not to happen for the future of Frontier and i havent heard alot of updates about this game and idk if it is confirmed that frontier can fix the dino sizing. Can anyone comfirmed to me that they can or cant fix dino sizing?

(also i did see the link but i dont believe that the dino sizing problem is true you all may never know they can or cant)
 
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Aramus418

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Vigo99 said:
Is dino sizing the biggest threat to frontier?


Well i heard alot of reports of dino sizing problems like trex is bigger than the rest of the carnivores and the one thing i fear the most is can Frontier counter that problem i just hope it does cause if they cant then that would be the like the disease for the game where everyone will slowly hate it cause of the dino sizing problem and i wish for that not to happen for the future of Frontier and i havent heard alot of updates about this game and idk if it is confirmed that frontier can fix the dino sizing. Can anyone comfirmed to me that they can or cant fix dino sizing?

(also i did see the link but i dont believe that the dino sizing problem is true you all may never know they can or cant)
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They have said, essentially, that they could but doing so would involve a lot of work that would also create more issues which would also need to be worked out. Basically, they won’t do it, but I would bet they’ll find the time a year or two down the road to make it happen.
 

Deleted member 185432

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I hope your right cause i dont want frontier to fall because of that problem
 
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