Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

[Robert Maynard]

Is it also possible to never get shot at while pursuing an elite ranking in those two? Combat is the only profession in the game that comes looking for you. I've never been interdicted by a planet forcing me to scan it or run away.

Who knows....

Indeed, both NPCs and players who have chosen a combat related career path will engage players who may have no wish to participate in combat.

Combat is an active role. Being engaged in combat is passive, turning active when either responding in kind or retreating.

 

[Mouse]

Well you can never legally consent to something illegal in the first place. There's also a massive difference between getting stabbed irl and getting shot at in a video game, you can't compare the two.

And you're right, it's no bigger a part of open as the other modes, it's just that combat Is a massive part of the game in general.

I'm sure everyone that has lived in a war zone signed forms of consent and gave them to the combatants before they "Allowed" them to fight in their streets.

 

[Tuub t Tute]

I'm waiting for the first RAEG threads about combat loggers in CQC

 

[Jockey79]

it's just that combat Is a massive part of the game in general.

"Combat" is only 1/3 of the ranking for the game.

And you can do that via PvE.

PvP is not any part of this game, as everything can be done in Solo or a Private Group, without ever forcing yourself on another player.

 

[Syax]

At your start screen you choose login to open,solo,group...some groups send you a password when you apply.

Cheers, think i was getting ahead of myself and had not actually been added to the group yet. recently spotted the link in private groups

 

[why fi at all]

So how long until its claimed that a bunch of us dirty, filthy, easy-mode solo/private group players got together and griefed CQC?

Or until players claim a bunch of dirty griefers ruined thier experience because they had the nerve to kill them.

when i see one of those posts i want to be the first to make a snarky reply.

i'll be playing in CQC and i expect to have a perfect record, no kills.

but i won't be playing to win.
i'll be there trying to find a way to put up a fight.
currently i have one NPC kill, and that was in the tutorial.

i want to see if losing enough against human players i can eventually learn enough to find out why so many people claim that NPC's are no challenge.

going into consensual PVP combat will be fine with me, and i will laugh at people that cry griefer, for any reason in CQC.

i'm glad it will be an optional mode.

 

[Asp Explorer]

i'll be playing in CQC and i expect to have a perfect record, no kills.

Playing "dead-seal" in an arena full of seal-clubbers annoys them immensely.

"YU R N@ plyng game rite dude! I wanna WINZ getz U and U playz UNFARE! COZ U SUK coz U az not as WIN AZ ME!"

It's wonderfully entertaining to watch and listen to. After all - these are people with this mentality.

 

[Julissa Silver]

Is it? Two of the paths to Elite do not require the player to fire a shot....

My scanner wants to know why you hate it so much. It says it has to belong to a fire group and wants to be considered equally with all other guns.

 

[Dave1235]

Of course nobody's planning to run some sort of 'team' to try and spoil CQC. It was all just a joke, a bit like piracy versus solo versus private group modes.

OFC you were only joking, sometimes I push a joke a little further than maybe I should .

Art of Retreat and Special Escape Specialists

For short we'd be ........

.........

Ok, never mind

Lol I am occasionally a member of those "specialists" but generally I have to work at it.

OK you sort out recruitment, I will get a TS server running #the-cqc-brave-sir-robins / #"the CQC Scared'y Cats" , we need to work out a plan for synchronised fleeing. / JK

In all modes I stick to the first principal of the Mobius group "Don't spoil another players game!" https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362&p=720352&viewfull=1#post720352

TLDR
1) Julissa was joking
2) Jockey is a griefer, even in solo mode (where many could not find a way, Jockey shined a light on CQC )
3) I am a saint

If you bought into 2 or 3, even for a second, I suggest you avoid TLDR's and actually read the whole post , 1) was the correct answer.

 

[Julissa Silver]

Get a group of people, go in to CQC - and don't kill anyone.
Just give them the run around until they get bored and quit the match.

Your team wins by default if their team quits.

The group could be called, The Pacifist Warriors, or better still The Roadrunners

I had a pacifist Arena team in WoW. We danced and stealthed a lot. Clearly there's demand for this emergent and legitimate behavior in CQC. I guess I'm going to have to make that group after all.

We shall be the Wildly Inaccurate Pacifists. Of course, the name is a WIP.

TLDR
1) Julissa was joking
2) Jockey is a griefer, even in solo mode

(where many could not find a way, Jockey shined a light on CQC

)
3) I am a saint)

Apparently only 3 is true. And I'm also a griefer.

 

[Dave1235]

Is it? Two of the paths to Elite do not require the player to fire a shot....

So that's 66% of the path to Elite (the only real goal in the game) that doesn't require a single fight (PVP or PVE), in the other 33% I got to the rank of Dangerous (yesterday), the last time I fought a Player was in Beta, I had about ~ 5 PVP fights from PB1 to to Gamma launch, I got jumped once Viper to Viper (and I won, barely, I was in shock after, too busy saying Hi to notice it was a hollow triangle closing fast, I was a newb!), another 2 were by agreement in Freeport with the same guy and a few more in the "Beta blowout", the weekend before the final wipe, I met up at the advertised system and learned a few lessons in "how to lose a ship in 15 seconds", that was all PVP I agreed to.

Not one of them had a lasting effect, with regular wipes I had nothing to lose.

So to get to the point, even though I played in open in my starter system during Gamma I never PVP'd once, I got to Dangerous without fighting another player, Mmmm I am waiting for someone to call me a cheat or exploiter for playing the game in the way it was designed and having an immense amount of fun "playing it my way", we have seen it before regarding the ability to change modes.

 

[Dave1235]

ehhhh heh heh EZ Mode ehh hehehehehehe

I didn't do it justice in relation to the insults, I couldn't find "Codys database of insults"

Ok I found it really, I am just too much of a coward to use it hehe

 

[Dave1235]

Is it also possible to never get shot at while pursuing an elite ranking in those two? Combat is the only profession in the game that comes looking for you. I've never been interdicted by a planet forcing me to scan it or run away.

You need to play more mate , I have been in some Hi-reses (normally on the dark side of the planet) where roids have jumped me and killed me, I swear a few moved into my way, if you fly fast they gang up on you.

That said I have not yet been interdicted by a roid, but a few planets have interdicted me and some Suns too, pulled me out of SC and damaged my hull, they are evil, they can hit your hull even if you have full shields, the Suns are the worst griefers. Throttle to Zero when you jump people or the Sun will grief you.

 

[Dave1235]

Playing "dead-seal" in an arena full of seal-clubbers annoys them immensely.

"YU R N@ plyng game rite dude! I wanna WINZ getz U and U playz UNFARE! COZ U SUK coz U az not as WIN AZ ME!"

It's wonderfully entertaining to watch and listen to. After all - these are people with this mentality.

http://s17.postimg.org/3yrjgcy9b/th_NG6133_XN.jpg

Citation please

<whispers> I thought they wanted more unarmed traders in Open so they could improve our game with their emergent game play, are you saying that CQC will be about fighting an equal rather than stealing candy from a child

Whilst I go in open sometimes to give Candy to these starving pirates in their empty mode, I don't get why "sheep" in CQC would be a problem, please explain why killing someone that wont shoot back is a problem in CQC but a preference in open, I am very, very confused.

 

[Cody]

I don't get why "sheep" in CQC would be a problem...

Sheep? A problem?

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream!

 

[Asp Explorer]

I don't get why "sheep" in CQC would be a problem, please explain why killing someone that wont shoot back is a problem in CQC but a preference in open, I am very, very confused.

<whispers back> If they know it's going to happen - it's not emergent and following the pure rule of the pew-pew god.

 

[Dave1235]

I had a pacifist Arena team in WoW. We danced and stealthed a lot. Clearly there's demand for this emergent and legitimate behavior in CQC. I guess I'm going to have to make that group after all.

We shall be the Wildly Inaccurate Pacifists. Of course, the name is a WIP.



Apparently only 3 is true. And I'm also a griefer.

NO WAY Bacon Mistress, I will not believe it, "Julissa Silver (read old Ben) you are my only hope (I need an R2D2 unit)".

Now, please get back on your pedestal, I prefer to look up in worship, and lets leave this folly behind us, we have Bacon issues to deal with!.

Edit

If we have to I would suggest a different name (to confuse the enemy) "PEW" Players Excused (from) Warefare, that will get um ;o)

 

[Asp Explorer]

Why bother with excused players or confusing a perceived "enemy"?

You can smack players silly in-game, and for those participants who wish to be utter parts, you can lulzban them to oblivion and back at your leisure. There are no "enemies" in Elite - there are simply those who try to be, those who want to be, and those who cry.

 

[Dave1235]

<whispers back> If they know it's going to happen - it's not emergent and following the pure rule of the pew-pew god.

Right, I got you, if we want to be "emergent" we have to play hide and seek or similar in CQC, damn it I might have to join WIP too, I really need to sort out my Sig now, if I leave it much longer I don't think there will be enough pixels to mention all of the groups I am in.

Mobius
Bacon Cats
Drunks of Sol (I will be back in a few weeks when my liver is not so painful, now that's a proper interview!, if anyone finds my phone, wallet, watch or eyebrows please PM me, I would like all of them back)
WIP
Oh and I might me an a r s e too

That's a big Sig

 

[Jockey79]

Right, I got you, if we want to be "emergent" we have to play hide and seek or similar in CQC, damn it I might have to join WIP too, I really need to sort out my Sig now, if I leave it much longer I don't think there will be enough pixels to mention all of the groups I am in.

Mobius
Bacon Cats
Drunks of Sol (I will be back in a few weeks when my liver is not so painful, now that's a proper interview!, if anyone finds my phone, wallet, watch or eyebrows please PM me, I would like all of them back)
WIP
Oh and I might me an a r s e too

That's a big Sig

I remember the days my sig was my own......

/sigh.