Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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Sorry didn't read the full thread, and it has probably been mentioned a hundred times, but there is an open PVE and it's called Mobius.
Why add a new option in the menu when this group has been there right from the start?

If the group disappears, well then I vote yes.

Exactly because said group can disappear... having Mobius (the player) bear all of it is not fair, and he won't be around forever.
 
"Whether you think it is cheating or not - FD had to hold both competitions in Open only."

I was just making a point, not trying to open up a whole discussion about it, it seems kind of offtopic. Either way, I never mentioned "cheating" at all, just made the observation there were Open only events in the past, and that I personally would like to see MORE in the future. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Actually yes, there is something wrong with adding more content to one mode and not another, and I'm quite sure you can see what it would be. FD say that all modes are equal, so adding content for Open only, or indeed for Solo only, would be contradicting what they have been saying for some time, and would reward or penalize many players in the other mode (again, we can leave groups out for now), all of whom have paid for the game, and are entitled to all the content in it.

I doubt very much it will happen.
 
Actually yes, there is something wrong with adding more content to one mode and not another, and I'm quite sure you can see what it would be. FD say that all modes are equal, so adding content for Open only, or indeed for Solo only, would be contradicting what they have been saying for some time, and would reward or penalize many players in the other mode (again, we can leave groups out for now), all of whom have paid for the game, and are entitled to all the content in it.

I doubt very much it will happen.

Well they introduced CQC, is that not online only? Maybe they will hold a CQC competition for commanders that does not include AI. Would love to see something like that, even though I have no interest in CQC. I don;t see it as taking away from my game, even though I would not use the feature.
 
We will be waiting, with a lot of ammo. I'd like to see something like this!

I will be there as soon as I can get there! Everyone that wants to stand up for what is right come meet me at the star Alpha Cenuri in 30 minutes! I'll be the one in the Cobra! We will make the trek to Hutton Orbital together!
 
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Well they introduced CQC, is that not online only? Maybe they will hold a CQC competition for commanders that does not include AI. Would love to see something like that, even though I have no interest in CQC. I don;t see it as taking away from my game, even though I would not use the feature.

As far as CQC goes, that is indeed an Open environment, as it has to be by nature of what it is, there are no NPCs (I believe), and of course anyone can play there, it doesn't affect their main game, or use their main game assets. You are choosing not to play it, but apparently plenty of players who normally play in Solo or Group mode are, so it's not exclusive content in any way that is relevant to the game.
 
I am in favor of it anyway, forced PvP in Open.

I'm going to ignore the rest for the moment as you're still dancing around my actual question by only half quoting it.

I asked your opinion about PvP players, requesting to join a Private Group for PvE players under a false pretense of being PvE players, to then go on a PvP killing spree.
They can play their way, in open - and do indeed do that in open, yet they felt the need to ruin other peoples game play by not letting others (who were of no consequence to them) play their way.

The game states "Play your Way" - that is aimed at everyone, not just PvPers, but PvEers as well....

So why can PvEers not play their way without being harassed / griefed? and what is your opinion on it?

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Well they introduced CQC, is that not online only? Maybe they will hold a CQC competition for commanders that does not include AI. Would love to see something like that, even though I have no interest in CQC. I don;t see it as taking away from my game, even though I would not use the feature.

No AI at all in CQC, human only.

Also you can earn credits in CQC for your main game balance, without any loss / risk to your main game ships or assets - There is in fact, less risks in CQC than Solo, and you earn credits in both.
 
As far as CQC goes, that is indeed an Open environment, as it has to be by nature of what it is, there are no NPCs (I believe), and of course anyone can play there, it doesn't affect their main game, or use their main game assets. You are choosing not to play it, but apparently plenty of players who normally play in Solo or Group mode are, so it's not exclusive content in any way that is relevant to the game.

Well anyone who has access to solo has access to Open, so by the same logic anything in open is still valid content as far as they are concerned, if CQC can be treated like this. Either way, to me it is the same thing I want to see, more Elite Cmdrs gaining recognition for their actions in PvP/Open/CQC. None of the content released so far is "Exclusive", we all got it with each update since release.
 
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I'm going to ignore the rest for the moment as you're still dancing around my actual question by only half quoting it.

I asked your opinion about PvP players, requesting to join a Private Group for PvE players under a false pretense of being PvE players, to then go on a PvP killing spree.
They can play their way, in open - and do indeed do that in open, yet they felt the need to ruin other peoples game play by not letting others (who were of no consequence to them) play their way.

The game states "Play your Way" - that is aimed at everyone, not just PvPers, but PvEers as well....

So why can PvEers not play their way without being harassed / griefed? and what is your opinion on it?

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No AI at all in CQC, human only.

Also you can earn credits in CQC for your main game balance, without any loss / risk to your main game ships or assets - There is in fact, less risks in CQC than Solo, and you earn credits in both.


"I asked your opinion about PvP players, requesting to join a Private Group for PvE players under a false pretense of being PvE players, to then go on a PvP killing spree."

I don't think that is a very nice thing to do? Why? I never did that lol...

"They can play their way, in open - and do indeed do that in open, yet they felt the need to ruin other peoples game play by not letting others (who were of no consequence to them) play their way"

Well, some people are sadists. The internet is full of them.

"So why can PvEers not play their way without being harassed / griefed? and what is your opinion on it?"

Well they can. It seems a shame they have to find a way to get into your private friends list, but that can happen in any social/internet situation. This can happen in facebook, or on reddit, youtube etc.. or in many games (any with private servers). The scope f this issue is bigger than ED. Either way, I voted "NO" in the poll provided, because I like Open the way it is, and feel FD have provided enough gamemodes for everyone. Just my opinion. It does not really matter what I think though, it is not my thing to people. I stick to fighting in Open, as I know the people there are aware of the risks (usually). I prefer to leave a commander without drives rather than destroy them, it is a bit more elegant and shows respect. Especially if their rebuy cost is large. Keeps the murder bounty off my head as well :)
 
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Well anyone who has access to solo has access to Open, so by the same logic anything in open is still valid content as far as they are concerned, if CQC can be treated like this. Either way, to me it is the same thing I want to see, more Elite Cmdrs gaining recognition for their actions in PvP/Open/CQC. None of the content released so far is "Exclusive", we all got it with each update since release.

That's true, but there are plenty of players (by all accounts) who don't enjoy interaction with other players. Lots of reasons for it probably, so adding content to the main game that must be played in Open would be effectively denying them content.

CQC is a slightly different beast, it's sort of a stand alone mini-game that provides balanced PvP with one aim only, to shoot other players. If that's your thing, then that's your thing. You play Open presumably, but aren't that interested in it, and I've read comments from a few other Open only players who say they have little interest in it. Again, the reasons are your own, and valid.

Why is this different? Well many posters come here saying (for example) that PP should be Open only, because it's not fair trying to 'defeat' players you cannot see. PP affects the game in as much as it affects the BGS, so that must be available to all, as everyone plays in the same BGS. CQC does not affect the BGS.
 
That's true, but there are plenty of players (by all accounts) who don't enjoy interaction with other players. Lots of reasons for it probably, so adding content to the main game that must be played in Open would be effectively denying them content.

CQC is a slightly different beast, it's sort of a stand alone mini-game that provides balanced PvP with one aim only, to shoot other players. If that's your thing, then that's your thing. You play Open presumably, but aren't that interested in it, and I've read comments from a few other Open only players who say they have little interest in it. Again, the reasons are your own, and valid.

Why is this different? Well many posters come here saying (for example) that PP should be Open only, because it's not fair trying to 'defeat' players you cannot see. PP affects the game in as much as it affects the BGS, so that must be available to all, as everyone plays in the same BGS. CQC does not affect the BGS.

I get what your saying, I kind of agree, but I like I said I dont feel I am being denied content when they made CQC, even though it is not part of my playstyle. We can discuss PvP balance, but that seems a separate issue. At its core, it is dev content, and it is online only. I understand what they say about PP being Open only, it would be interesting, as I have tried PP in open and it is insane fun. One thing I noticed is that commanders wing up a lot more after 1.3, been invited to so many random wings to chase down enemy commanders. However, i would never go for that argument, simply because the solo/private game is made much richer by powerplay. That would be mean spirited, to deny that to solo players. It is also worth remembering the XB community will not be able to interact with our Open community, so the argument becomes moot after that point.
 
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However, i would never go for that argument, simply because the solo/private game is made much richer by powerplay. That would be mean spirited, to deny that to solo players. It is also worth remembering the XB community will not be able to interact with our Open community, so the argument becomes moot after that point.

There you are, different platforms all in the same BGS, invisible to each other, and one hopes having a blast, as you do in PP. And indeed, add to that instancing, where you will never see every other person in Open anyway, and it really does become a moot point.

It should be a big enough game for everyone, but sadly this thread is testament that some people want it all their own way, and it does seem that the most vocal of those are players wanting everyone forced into Open.
 
The protest starts in the half hour!

We are forming up at Al-Din Propect and will be flying to Alpha Centauri in 25+- minutes!

Help us show the support for PVE IN OPEN!
 
There you are, different platforms all in the same BGS, invisible to each other, and one hopes having a blast, as you do in PP. And indeed, add to that instancing, where you will never see every other person in Open anyway, and it really does become a moot point.

It should be a big enough game for everyone, but sadly this thread is testament that some people want it all their own way, and it does seem that the most vocal of those are players wanting everyone forced into Open.

"It should be a big enough game for everyone, but sadly this thread is testament that some people want it all their own way, and it does seem that the most vocal of those are players wanting everyone forced into Open."

I want it the way the devs make it, mostly. And I like offering suggestions, and expressing my opinion. I don;t think anyone is forced to play any game, or any game mode. To me it is all choice.
 
Just chuckling slightly Roybe, but are you trying to promote PvE in Open by.... PvP?

Nope...by running a peaceful protest to exemplify how many PVE players will play in Open. Any deaths are on the PVP people...no one from the PVE side will fire. We will die at your hands in numbers that will be nothing but an embarassment to those that kill the innocent!
 
Nope...by running a peaceful protest to exemplify how many PVE players will play in Open. Any deaths are on the PVP people...no one from the PVE side will fire. We will die at your hands in numbers that will be nothing but an embarassment to those that kill the innocent!

You should go to Lave, not Hutton. It seems a more appropriate location for your martydom.. :D
 
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