Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].

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Did someone say 'bacon'?
 
How does losing a ship once in solo make it more dangerous than open.?

Well in open I usually manage to see who is attacking me, and fight back a bit, looks like in solo I got a head or rather powerplant shot the moment I showed up, so it looks way more dangerous?
 
Well in open I usually manage to see who is attacking me, and fight back a bit, looks like in solo I got a head or rather powerplant shot the moment I showed up, so it looks way more dangerous?

doesn't seem solo related to me according to the video.
just because it never happened in open to you doesn't mean it's a solo thing.
looks like you spawned into an asteroid or something similar.

btw. NPC don't specifically target subsystems (so far). they just might hit them randomly while shooting you.
 
Well, apart from bacon. ;)

Whilst I am a great lover of bacon myself, (it would be a part of every breakfast and some dinners if I could eat it every day) but there are a few vegetarians (and religions) that would not agree, that said I applaud your efforts to unite the planet, I think bacon rates higher than kittens, maybe slightly below world peace. :)

The good thing is the people that don't like bacon don't tell me I can't eat it, likewise I don't try to tell them how great it is and what they are missing, how their life would be better with bacon, I could always suggest they just try it, they might like it if they would just open their minds, I doubt my boss would appreciate it though, I guess HR would have something to say too.

Even people that like bacon disagree a little, I once asked how long my bacon sandwich was going to be (I have been going there years & know them all well, it was tongue in cheek, but I was the only one waiting at that time and it was taking a while), the manager said, "wont be long sir, it takes a little longer to cremate it". Cheeky sod, I guess he doesn't prefer his bacon well done, how very dare he. ;)
 
Whilst I am a great lover of bacon myself, (it would be a part of every breakfast and some dinners if I could eat it every day) but there are a few vegetarians (and religions) that would not agree, that said I applaud your efforts to unite the planet, I think bacon rates higher than kittens, maybe slightly below world peace. :)

The good thing is the people that don't like bacon don't tell me I can't eat it, likewise I don't try to tell them how great it is and what they are missing, how their life would be better with bacon, I could always suggest they just try it, they might like it if they would just open their minds, I doubt my boss would appreciate it though, I guess HR would have something to say too.

Even people that like bacon disagree a little, I once asked how long my bacon sandwich was going to be (I have been going there years & know them all well, it was tongue in cheek, but I was the only one waiting at that time and it was taking a while), the manager said, "wont be long sir, it takes a little longer to cremate it". Cheeky sod, I guess he doesn't prefer his bacon well done, how very dare he. ;)

well written...

but i don't care about bacon!
fact is, there is no eadible bread to be found anywhere as soon as i leave my country!
 
Depends what you mean by edible. I'm partial to an olive ciabatta (filled with bacon).

no, i mean bread. something you cut in slices and put things onto (and no, this doesn't incluse cucumbres).
but i think the concept of a loaf of bread that has to be cut and doesn't have to be put into a toaster afterwards got lost in history for most parts of the world ;)

Edit: and a "sandwich" doesn't have anything to do with bread...

Edit2: This is what i'm talking about and what a bakery should look like
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i think i didn't miss much since yesterday, so i just skipped through.

Nothing you haven't read before, well apart from a few rather witty comments that made me lol.

One thing i still don't understand: what would you gain from it?

One thing you still don't understand: i gain nothing from playing with you, simulating some kind of content. i don't want to talk to you, i don't want to fight you, i don't even need you to exist in the game.

It's really that simple: i don't want to.
And the reasons for that are none of your business (and if you really want to know, just read the whole first part of the thread...the closed one).

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Still stuck at the pre-understanding stage, they haven't worked that out yet, you know "why don't you want to play with me, I am a nice guy" stage, once someone has posted a link to wiki to explain "empathy" we might move on a little but I think its going to take a little longer than usual this time.

In others words: we've been wasting our time. You're not here to ask people why they don't play open. You're here to tell them. And comparissons to 5 year olds isn't patronising at all.

I have met neutron stars less dense than this.

Rofl, my rep button is broken again, Ziggy have some compassion, please sir, I will wake up the wife and then I will be in trouble!
 
So let me sum up my debate, and only my debate. I just want to play nice with you nice folk. I'm the kid outside on the warm summer day, knocking on your door wanting to play at the park, but the park is empty so I came here to 'your house' to see if you wanted to play. That is all. I'll go play in the park by myself. maybe another day(update) we'll play together, at the park, in the sun, nice like....

Sorry I am washing my hair today, tomorrow ?, no sorry I have to revise for a blood test.

Now don't take offence, its not you personally (yet) but I don't like your park. I didn't get beaten up there I just saw a few people there I decided I didn't want to play with, even if they take my pocket money I have more I will be just fine, I am not scared of them, it is a virtual park not a real one.

PS

maybe another day(update) we'll play together, at the park, in the sun, nice like....

If you want to see anyone in the park making sure your router is set up correctly is better than any update, to use your analogy when the door opens there is no one there to invite to the park, you can't see them, you never met one yet. Please PM me your router make & model & the config settings, I might buy one "just in case" they change the way parks work. TYVM.
 
Do you think perhaps the Thargoids are playing... Solo!

Of course they are, levelling up in the shadows of solo mode where we cant fight them, have you seen one yet?, getting their uber ships to come into open and grief us all, it will happen mark my words and when it does it will not be pretty.

Maybe we should all change our minds and agree to banning mode switching, that would stop the Thargoids getting cheap credits in solo then griefing us in open, lol lets troll the Thargoids, if we make them start again in open they might all quit ED :D, See that I just saved the universe ;)
 
Reading the quotes Sandro said this...

What I took from Commander Demiga's suggestion was that there might be a consensus that activities carried out in solo mode are "safer/unfair" as there is no chance for other Commanders to oppose them.

Definition of "Consensus" : A general agreement.

There is no such general agreement, and alluding to a consensus would seem to be purposefully misleading. Previous comments do show PvP leanings and bias toward open play.

PvP is a plus, but there should be no need for PvP interaction, the game should stand on it's own.

No commander should be forced to play the role of victim in the open play (griefers paradise); and no commander should be have their participation in a community grind event marginalized, simply because they have chosen to not play in the same place as licensed adversarial thugs (adversely affecting the game experience of others..).

Other methods of making commanders play in open should be followed. Engaging players with compelling game content, not simply forcing a PvP survival environment on everyone because it's an easy option.
 
well written...

but i don't care about bacon!
fact is, there is no eadible bread to be found anywhere as soon as i leave my country!

Lol, you sir are limiting your choice of bread to what you personally enjoy, try some of my favourite bread, you might enjoy it, in fact I insist.

Pah, you tried it before and didn't like it, in fact you hated it, what does that matter, try again I am sure you will like / not be allergic to it this time, trust me I like you, it will be fun, you will love it. :)
 
Of course they are, leveling up in the shadows of solo mode where we cant fight them, have you seen one yet?, getting their uber ships to come into open and grief us all, it will happen mark my words and when it does it will not be pretty.

Maybe we should all change our minds and agree to banning mode switching, that would stop the Thargoids getting cheap credits in solo then griefing us in open, lol lets troll the Thargoids, if we make them start again in open they might all quit ED :D, See that I just saved the universe ;)

See I hope you now see the benefit of separating the modes..
 
Definition of "Consensus" : A general agreement.

There is no such general agreement, and alluding to a consensus would seem to be purposefully misleading. Previous comments do show PvP leanings and bias toward open play.

PvP is a plus, but there should be no need for PvP interaction, the game should stand on it's own.

No commander should be forced to play the role of victim in the open play (griefers paradise); and no commander should be have their participation in a community grind event marginalized, simply because they have chosen to not play in the same place as licensed adversarial thugs (adversely affecting the game experience of others..).

Other methods of making commanders play in open should be followed. Engaging players with compelling game content, not simply forcing a PvP survival environment on everyone because it's an easy option.

Actually there is consensus...it's just that the consensus that has occurred broke people into two, diametrically opposed camps...neither of which will compromise on their stance. You have stated the split quite succinctly. Now, we need to see which way FDev decides to jump. This decision is quite simple to see now...do something to bring equivalence to the various modes, do nothing, or come up with some brilliant change that makes everyone happy. After that, everyone playing the game will decide what they think of the changes, or the lack thereof.
 
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Actually there is consensus...it's just that the consensus that has occurred broke people into two, diametrically opposed camps...neither of which will compromise on their stance. You have stated the split quite succinctly. Now, we need to see which way FDev decides to jump. This decision is quite simple to see now...do something to bring equivalence to the various modes, do nothing, or come up with some brilliant change that makes everyone happy. After that, everyone playing the game will decide what they think of the changes, or the lack thereof.

Well if the game continues to sell well then I can't see anything changing but if the player retention is poor then I would imagine they would do something...
 
Actually there is consensus...it's just that the consensus that has occurred broke people into two, diametrically opposed camps...neither of which will compromise on their stance. You have stated the split quite succinctly. Now, we need to see which way FDev decides to jump. This decision is quite simple to see now...do something to bring equivalence to the various modes, dI doning, or come up with some brilliant change that makes everyone happy. After that, everyone playing the game will decide what they think of the changes, or the lack thereof.

Are you sure you understand what a consensus is? It's not being split into two groups with diametrically opposed views. Disagreement invalidates a consensus, by definition. I'm just saying...

Which way will they jump? Instead of this thug enabling survivalist ironman grindfest?

It would be good to see the game change to something more conducive to multi-player gaming, but that horse may have bolted :(.
 
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