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and then i end up in running away all the time, maybe a few times in a row. i don't see any fun part there, it's a waste of time because i don't get the things done i want to do. and thats not running away because another player decided for me its time to...
If you do not have a time for play, where a part of game is fighting and running, maybe it is better to play a Space Engine?
There are also planetary landings... and it is free.
And what will happen when NPC will interdict you? Why a running or fighting with a player is worse than in NPC case?
Running from NPC is not a waste of time and running from a player is?
Statistically, how many times you are interdicted by a NPC and Player?
Even in both, when npc or player kills you, you will not be sucked by vacuum. This is only game. There is no reason to be scared.
There are also planetary landings... and it is free.
And what will happen when NPC will interdict you? Why a running or fighting with a player is worse than in NPC case?
Running from NPC is not a waste of time and running from a player is?
Statistically, how many times you are interdicted by a NPC and Player?
Even in both, when npc or player kills you, you will not be sucked by vacuum. This is only game. There is no reason to be scared.
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i am exploring, i am taking screenhots... and i have a great experience doing this because i love the beauty of THIS game. thats why combat and interdictions are a waste of time for me.
regarding the difference between player and npc interdictions read the post of cmdr andy b a little above.
regarding the difference between player and npc interdictions read the post of cmdr andy b a little above.
InMemoriamSirocco
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Wrong. Every thread about people being ganked by players contains this argument: "If you play open, you sign up for PVP."
I did. It's called Mobius.
Yeah, well... I don't enjoy it. I enjoy fighting NPC pirates but not players. Because I have no chance of winning.
An NPC is programmed to attack you. The AI is sometimes a challenge, but even Elite Vipers can be defeated. A player who potentially possesses a HOTAS (I fly with a PS3 Controller), Voice Attack and Head Tracking or even an Oculus Rift will always - ALWAYS - destroy me. And he does it deliberately. A human being deciding to deliberately decimate my resources, whether I want to engage in PVP or not. If you fail to see how that is any different to a programmed AI, you have a very warped vision of reality.
It's dangerous enough with NPC pirates for my taste, thank you very much. Also: If people could stop advocating nonconsensual PVP with the name of the game which is merely an allusion to an ingame rank, I WOULD BE SO HAPPY!
In last trading community goal i was flying in Yembo... to shoot a grieferes, players with Wanted status. And you know what? There was a many players but nobody interdicted me
This is your theory about evil universe, evil players.
Oh, so your personal experience trumps my personal experience, thus I should come to the same conclusions that you have because your personal experience tells me to? Mine was different. I have come to different conclusions. I have drawn the consequences. I am happy now. Why do you want me to change that? So that the griefers you so heroically hunted can have another target worth shooting at?
In group play you also can die.. by NPC or maybe other player
I seriously do not know where problem is, i safely grinded for a few expensive ships and i am still alive
The difference is: Being killed by an NPC is extremely unlikely, and even if it happens, there is noone to blame but myself. If another player kills me, that was not a programmed entity within the game acting as it is supposed to. That was another person deciding to spoil my fun.
If in Mobius I get killed by another player, then only because I DECIDED to take that risk. Players in Mobius are only allowed to attack other players inside a conflict zone, if the player is fighting for the opposite party. So I have to enter a conflict zone, choose a faction and deliberately with intent to kill OR BE KILLED enter combat.
And yet again: Just because you safely grinded bla bla bla does not mean we did, too. Your own personal experience is completely invalid as an argument... I don't even know why you still keep bringing it up. Nobody is interested in hearing about it. It is completely invaluable as an argument. Because experiences differ.
So why you playing game with a le DANGEROUS when you reject it 'dangerous' side?
Seriously, space engine is better for screenshots, better for exploring and is not dangerous.
In open you also decide when you taking risk. When you flying in insecure system you are taking risk. If you take a decision in fighting with a Python in your Asp or cobra you taken a risk.
If every players will ALWAYS kill you or every NPC will ALWAYS kill you maybe it is no sense to play, becuse this is game about killing, war, slavery and other bad things.
You can also ALWAYS decide to RUN and you will not be killed both by npc or a player. You have just to poses a better engine. Thats all.
Death by a player is a very low chance from deaths you can gain in this game. You can be killed by a lot of npc. You can be interdicted by NPC and this is NOT your decision when you will be interdicted.
You may crash in station, you may crash on asteroid or your ship may explode by heat.....
There is 200 000 players in 400 bln star systems..... Count a probability to meet somebody and calclulate probability to meet a psychopatic player...
Your last sentence makes my funny. 'your are wrong, because you are bad, and you thinking wrong, because you are not right, because NO' Good. Your arguments are similiar to that: http://youtu.be/SnkZGN_xIVs - you can translate if you like
Please, stop talking in that agressive way It is not kind. This is a 'taking style' in pve groups? Or something else?
Seriously you was a maltreated so much by other players in open? Man, we can help you... as i said - you can always fly with some friends or mine wing. I can show you a lighter parts of open sides of game
And i have question. Do you have something against to divide open and group/solo by a commander slot?
Seriously, space engine is better for screenshots, better for exploring and is not dangerous.
In open you also decide when you taking risk. When you flying in insecure system you are taking risk. If you take a decision in fighting with a Python in your Asp or cobra you taken a risk.
If every players will ALWAYS kill you or every NPC will ALWAYS kill you maybe it is no sense to play, becuse this is game about killing, war, slavery and other bad things.
You can also ALWAYS decide to RUN and you will not be killed both by npc or a player. You have just to poses a better engine. Thats all.
Death by a player is a very low chance from deaths you can gain in this game. You can be killed by a lot of npc. You can be interdicted by NPC and this is NOT your decision when you will be interdicted.
You may crash in station, you may crash on asteroid or your ship may explode by heat.....
There is 200 000 players in 400 bln star systems..... Count a probability to meet somebody and calclulate probability to meet a psychopatic player...
Your last sentence makes my funny. 'your are wrong, because you are bad, and you thinking wrong, because you are not right, because NO'
Good. Your arguments are similiar to that: http://youtu.be/SnkZGN_xIVs - you can translate if you like Please, stop talking in that agressive way
It is not kind. This is a 'taking style' in pve groups? Or something else?Seriously you was a maltreated so much by other players in open? Man, we can help you... as i said - you can always fly with some friends or mine wing. I can show you a lighter parts of open sides of game
And i have question. Do you have something against to divide open and group/solo by a commander slot?
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Yes. Because the Solo mode allows for playing the game when:
And then getting back to Open or Groups when at home. See. Nothing to do with PvP. Go figure.
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PS. Welcome to the black hole!!!
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Yes. Because the Solo mode allows for playing the game when:
- Away from home (i.e. in a hotel overnight, or on a job)
- When the internet plays up
- On a boring long train journey through a tether
And then getting back to Open or Groups when at home. See. Nothing to do with PvP. Go figure.
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PS. Welcome to the black hole!!!
You can play on open from hotel or a job (however playing game in job is a cheating your employer).
Both for open and group/solo you need an internet connection.
Why you thinking open play is pvp? because it is not true.
This is not pvp arena. You can meet players but you do not need to shoot them, like in a real life.
Do you really shooting to everybody on the street?
I think they should be divided because it is not fair to play on solo and group only in pve, and play with player who taking a risk (low,but always risk) in open mode.
Everyone can safety grind a Python in solo, then turn to open and grief a players who want play in community. Playing in solo and group, earning credits and playing in open smelt as hipocricy to me (like a cheating employer - of course,sorry, your employer allowing that).
Both for open and group/solo you need an internet connection.
Why you thinking open play is pvp? because it is not true.
This is not pvp arena. You can meet players but you do not need to shoot them, like in a real life.
Do you really shooting to everybody on the street?
I think they should be divided because it is not fair to play on solo and group only in pve, and play with player who taking a risk (low,but always risk) in open mode.
Everyone can safety grind a Python in solo, then turn to open and grief a players who want play in community. Playing in solo and group, earning credits and playing in open smelt as hipocricy to me (like a cheating employer - of course,sorry, your employer allowing that
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Please, stop talking in that agressive way
it is even less kind stating over and over again that certain players don't play the game properly and telling them what they should play instead.
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True. I do not talk anybody how he should play. I am asking them why they play that way. This is a difference.
Why you play? vs you shoud play!. Hm.. this is differ I think.
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Everyone can safety grind a Python in solo, then turn to open and grief a players who want play in community. Playing in solo and group, earning credits and playing in open smelt as hipocricy to me (like a cheating employer - of course,sorry, your employer allowing that
Because choice and I'm entitled to do what I like during my breaks, thanks.
You say Open play is not for PvP?
I agree with you. Other's don't.
Hypocrisy is saying ED is Dangerous; you can get killed by NPCs just as much as by PCs and then saying it's safer to play in Solo/Groups? Please go sort out your logic before risking being accused of being a troll (just posting for a reaction.)
OK. End of story.
This claryfiy everything.
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It is not my words.
Game le is Elite: Dangerous. I have not named this game
It is not my words.
Game le is Elite: Dangerous. I have not named this game
Again, this is where research comes in. The game is not named dangerous because of the threat level. It is named after the ranking.
OK. End of story.
This claryfiy everything.
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It is not my words.
Game title is Elite: Dangerous. I have not named this game
There - corrected that for you.
Oh and as Joe has pointed out...
Still, and my point is that switch and bait is not welcome in this thread, or on this forum. Say one thing and stick with it.
Kind of like naming a game Elite: Dangerous even though it is completely devoid of challenge.
People who didn't know all the ranks before buying the game didn't appreciate that I'm sure. Trying to dismiss this over lore is a total cop out. It was intentionally misleading. Their trailer only reinforces the fact that it was intentional deception.
I think FD knew if they honestly advertised the game as a trading simulator it would not have been as successful. They wanted people to think the game is something that it isn't so they could sell more copies.
They could have named it Elite: Harmless after all and it would have been much more accurate.
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And rank name is Dangerous because?
Dangerous rank could be gained by play in sand with 3 years kids? Or maybe it is combat rank.
What is combat? This is sitting on sofa with a pork chops or maybe it is a fight with enemies - both players and envinroment... however player is element of environment in that case.
Hmm. Maybe i am wrong And beeing Dangerous means to be a sweet lying on sofa big bear
Maybe it should be named Elite: Fluffy, and ranks Fluffy, Tinky, Winky.... and then all terrified people who playing in pve groups, people scared about bad, mad and angry 0.00001% of all players will be completely clear to me
However, i am here not to force anybody to something. If somebody want to play in group and solo - i understand it and i have not problem with that. It is clear - peoples are different and everybody has a different needs.
I am only saing - Open is NOT PvP, and open and group/solo should be divided by a slot.
It not happen as Robert qoute and OK. Thats all. There is no need to talk more about it
Topic may be closed.
Dangerous rank could be gained by play in sand with 3 years kids? Or maybe it is combat rank.
What is combat? This is sitting on sofa with a pork chops or maybe it is a fight with enemies - both players and envinroment... however player is element of environment in that case.
Hmm. Maybe i am wrong
And beeing Dangerous means to be a sweet lying on sofa big bear Maybe it should be named Elite: Fluffy, and ranks Fluffy, Tinky, Winky.... and then all terrified people who playing in pve groups, people scared about bad, mad and angry 0.00001% of all players will be completely clear to me
However, i am here not to force anybody to something. If somebody want to play in group and solo - i understand it and i have not problem with that. It is clear - peoples are different and everybody has a different needs.
I am only saing - Open is NOT PvP, and open and group/solo should be divided by a slot.
It not happen as Robert qoute and OK. Thats all. There is no need to talk more about it
Topic may be closed.
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Ian Phillips
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Thats enough. This thead is about the different modes of playing. Keep it on topic, please.
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