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I really think that solo mode were implemented just to shut up and try to please those guys that wanted a full singleplayer offline updated version of elite.

No, solo online was always planned along with solo offline.

It just became much more important when solo offline got canned.
 
Good job this is not mainly a PvP game then ;)
(for supporting info, see my post on page 505 (or page 38) with all the info on what the game is)

And I'm happy with the way it is ! My only problem is with those that think that Open = player interaction = pew pew pew only. When we ask for a better crime punishement for psycho killers, the answers we get are "open is PvP, suck it up or go solo". If everyone is forced into Open and we keep asking for a better crime punishement, what will they answer ? "ED is PvP, suck it up or stop playing" ?
 
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I think most of the all group think that private groups and solo players really effect the game for them, what they don't appear to understand is that there are thousands of other players playing in other all instances that are effecting their game but continue to say that its private/solo that is destroying it, maybe they should change the discussion to why are other all instances spoiling my game and stop blaming the private/solo player.

Heh, this is so right. Couldn't agree more! :)
 
I really think that solo mode were implemented just to shut up and try to please those guys that wanted a full singleplayer offline updated version of elite.
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"I cant compete with others, or... I want to farm everything for me alone, lets push this button and I will be alone in the galaxy just killing rabbits and safe-trucking"

Solo and private have to go eventually, those modes are splitting the community.

No.

People are different. What is exciting to one person may be boring to another. I've tried PvP/Open play, and almost without exception found it utterly dull and tedious. (Having a neurological disability means that I will always lose). I enjoy chess and theatre, but I don't expect others to enjoy those things just because I enjoy them.

I like the slow, soothing repetition of trading, usually while having chat radio on in the background. I absolutely loathe the OMG moments in PvP.

If Open was the only mode, I would stop playing the game entirely. Frontier have done a good job of embracing the diversity in human nature, which is why the groups were set up in the first place.

Cheers, Phos.
 
I think most of the all group think that private groups and solo players really effect the game for them, what they don't appear to understand is that there are thousands of other players playing in other all instances that are effecting their game but continue to say that its private/solo that is destroying it, maybe they should change the discussion to why are other all instances spoiling my game and stop blaming the private/solo player.

Heh, this is so right. Couldn't agree more! :)

Indeed - it's sort of the elephant in the room.

Huge play area - instancing based on connection health with 32 players max at the moment (probably near 20 if you're lucky) and timezones.
 
And I'm happy with the way it is ! My only problem is with those that think that Open = player interaction = pew pew pew only. When we ask for a better crime punishement for psycho killers, the answers we get are "open is PvP, suck it up or go solo". If everyone is forced into Open and we keep asking for a better crime punishement, what will they answer ? "ED is PvP, suck it up or stop playing" ?

That is the crux of it.

If Solo and Private were removed, those people are not going to go running to Open - I lost count in the first 100 pages of this thread of how many people said they'd just uninstall the game if that happened.
A few people said they'd just mess with their computers / routers / firewalls etc... to simulate a Solo or Group experience (as they know how peer to peer networking actually works) and about 3 of us (myself included) said that if we cannot play it our own way, we'd play it the way the griefers do until we became so much of a problem FD would have to lock us in to our own instances of the game ;)
 
I think most of the all group think that private groups and solo players really effect the game for them, what they don't appear to understand is that there are thousands of other players playing in other all instances that are effecting their game but continue to say that its private/solo that is destroying it, maybe they should change the discussion to why are other all instances spoiling my game and stop blaming the private/solo player.

Same thing really. This could go either way, point is, people in Open want Solo players out of their experience, and people in Solo the opposite. Just sepparate the damn things somehow...

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The problem is that ED offers several career choices, only one of them involve PvP and it isn't the most rewarding. I'll try to explain how I think :

- people will PvP (for powers or whatever reason that involves a highly PvP environnement)
- richest players will have the choice of taking expensives ships to battle, with the higher insurance cost. Note that a lot of players won't have that choice and the ship they'll bring to battle is the only one they own.
- players will die. It's bound to happen in a PvP environnement. What will happen when they'll realize they won't be able to pay their insurance next time they die ?
- they'll stop PvP'ing and try to earn money. Let's say they'll trade, as it is the fastest way to make money at the moment.
- why should they do it in Open, where they would be under the threat of pirates/psycho killers ?

I also understand that Dayz appeals to a public, but does ED appeals to the same public ?



Have you tried it ? Does it work ? I certainly wouldn't afk in a conflict zone. In a RES maybe, but not a CZ.

cant try it cuz quivira is broken :p. But yeah, i believe most of people, like me, came here for the freedom this game offers. I do not have to sign anywhere if i want to be a trader, i can just do it. Just like in dayz, i dont have to sign anywhere if i want to be a bandit or hero, or trader for that matter.

Related to the PvP things: that is exactly what im saying. The discrepances between mods are too damn high. I also play in Solo or Mobius, cuz Open has lag. I like being torn apart by human players(but then again i like dayz) but as you say, there is no reason to play Open. Just like there is no reason for a parallel universe to interract with another one (solo and open) as parallel lines never touch :D
 
That is the crux of it.

If Solo and Private were removed, those people are not going to go running to Open - I lost count in the first 100 pages of this thread of how many people said they'd just uninstall the game if that happened.
A few people said they'd just mess with their computers / routers / firewalls etc... to simulate a Solo or Group experience (as they know how peer to peer networking actually works) and about 3 of us (myself included) said that if we cannot play it our own way, we'd play it the way the griefers do until we became so much of a problem FD would have to lock us in to our own instances of the game ;)

We dont want anything to dissapear. You paid 50 dollars same as i did. All i want is a little more reward for Interraction in Open, to stop PvP. Maybe if wings would bring more money and harder opponents i would not have to just resort to killing the other Cmdr in my RES site for stealing the kills. Even if its not his fault :|
 
We dont want anything to dissapear. You paid 50 dollars same as i did.

That's a groundless assumption.

All i want is a little more reward for Interraction in Open, to stop PvP. Maybe if wings would bring more money and harder opponents i would not have to just resort to killing the other Cmdr in my RES site for stealing the kills. Even if its not his fault :|

Then you complain that people go to solo or groups, irony anyone?.
 
We dont want anything to dissapear.

Really? As I've seen calls for removal of Solo/Private all the way through this thread from Open advocates.

You paid 50 dollars same as i did.

Wrong, on 2 counts.

1) I didn't pay any "dollars" - they don't use them in England, where I live, as the standard currency.
2) What I paid in Pounds Sterling equals more than 50 dollars U.S.

All i want is a little more reward for Interraction in Open, to stop PvP.

So, apart from trying to value your game time higher than other players, you think throwing fuel on a fire is the way to put it out?
Good plan :rolleyes:

Maybe if wings would bring more money and harder opponents i would not have to just resort to killing the other Cmdr in my RES site for stealing the kills. Even if its not his fault :|

You're killing other CMDRs because you want to - it has nothing to do with Wings.
Wings brought exactly what was asked for, more player interactions and ways to share your game time/ experience with other players reliably.
As for stronger opponents - well, as FD knew Wings meant folks could team up and kill stuff faster, they added special content for it - tried looking for it? Just like they are adding more in 1.3, can you guess what it is yet?
 
Open is cool if your just flying around, or trading. If you're trying to bounty hunt, or partake in any of the CG that involve combat then you're far better off just going solo as there are too many CMDR's in one place killing everything before you do. I've found myself playin in solo much more often these days. I'm also thinking about trying to find a good group to join that's active on teamspeak :)
 
That's a groundless assumption.



Then you complain that people go to solo or groups, irony anyone?.

well what can I do ? I talked to him " Hey will you join my wing ? We can share the kills not ks"(exact sentences). He replied. Wings give no money, go to another RES site. So i shot him, he is space dust now. Because he was right. I killed him for being right...wings do give less money. And no! You cannot kill things faster, an Anaconda is usually under attack by 7 authority vessels. One more wont make such a difference. I play a lot with my friend. 1 hour RES hunting with him(assuming we get high valued targets) is about 400k at best. 1 hour when im on my own(probably in solo so nobody steals my kills) ~1 mil. See ?

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Open is cool if your just flying around, or trading. If you're trying to bounty hunt, or partake in any of the CG that involve combat then you're far better off just going solo as there are too many CMDR's in one place killing everything before you do. I've found myself playin in solo much more often these days. I'm also thinking about trying to find a good group to join that's active on teamspeak :)

Mercs of Mikunn :D
 
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Open is cool if your just flying around, or trading. If you're trying to bounty hunt, or partake in any of the CG that involve combat then you're far better off just going solo as there are too many CMDR's in one place killing everything before you do. I've found myself playin in solo much more often these days. I'm also thinking about trying to find a good group to join that's active on teamspeak :)

this is truth, I'm playing in solo right now basically same reason(doing the CG in Quivira 1 conflict zone derp), also because I won't have to worry about CMDR's trying to kill meh
 
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