I don't think it does matter if they are married. I thought I made that clear with the red herring comment?
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I don't think it does matter if they are married. I thought I made that clear with the red herring comment?
Oh, but discuss the Marriage between Roberts and Sandi, as well others, is stay on topic. Sure... Sure...
It is for some things, it isn't for others.
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People get refunds, because they got no actual video game after three years of waiting, despite having paid for one.
I know, there are a lot of people who don't care for that and just want to be part of an actress charity "movement". But please understand, that no one with a basic game package is really interested in this stuff.
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CR and Sandi are top employee's at CIG. Their relationship can have an effect on how the company is run and what happens to SC, as well as the reason they would deceive their backers I was also not the one to bring up that topic, I just responded to the misinformation you were spreading. If you are unable to see how talking about CIG is talking about SC then I don't know what to tell you.
What other marriage are we talking about? Please explain what other marriage we have talked about.
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Exactly, yet, people are sending refund requests due this Fear Mongering, the fear mongering exists because it's usually put: Ask for your refund now because in some months, when the game collapses, you have lost your money.
Why do you think CIG was asking and collecting info on refund requests if the reason to sent it was the articles on The Escapists / Derek Smart Blogs?
As a non backer with no investment either way I get to watch the fireworks if the game implodes, or play it if it's released (and doesn't suck).
The only negative scenario for me is if CR cuts his losses drops the game and tries to salvage a movie from the cut scenes, Wing Commander 2 Freddie Prinze Jnr's revenge <shudders>.
Do you have proof that people were sending in refunds due to Fear Mongering? Or is that just you Fear Mongering?
So its not ok for DS to be Fear Mongering, but its ok for you to do the exact same thing?
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The relationship between 2 persons affect the company? Huh?
It would be like that if this thread was named Cloud Imperium Games Thread, which is not, and most of the discussion is Not about Star Citizen on a big part of it, yet about the company internal affairs.
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This is what CIG is currently replying (at least on the past weeks) to refund requests: http://i.imgur.com/2ZDvUVq.png?1
Before this Derek Smart was also on the questions, it varies.
So when the reply is Yes, it concludes the person asked for a refund because one article/blog post. Where did i cause fear mongering?
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But why does it matter that they are married? Does it matter that Erin is the head producer and is Chris' brother? Does it matter that the entire company was started by a group of 10-20 friends?
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That might be because there is no SC. All we can talk about is the creating of SC, which CIG is a part of. Yes a relationship between 2 persons can effect the company. That is very well known information, and is true even for low level employee's. I am a little surprised you didn't know this, its common knowledge. This effect can be even more so for high ranking employee's.
It matters because she is not qualified for the position that she is in. The fact that she got that position doe to her relationship with CR says a lot about how CR operates. So yes it does matter, if it didn't matter, CR and Sandi would not have spent years trying to hide it. If CR wants to hire his wife to be the VP of marketing then fine, say so and why you are doing it. Instead of doing that they tried to hide it, and she made up her credentials.
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So what? No one said that it always has a negative effect or that it is always wrong.
The fact that no one cares about CR's brother is telling, even DS does not go after Erin. Why is that? Simple Erin is a competent dev and it was a smart move hiring him.
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There is SC, parts of the game on early alphas but it exists. Just yesterday 1.3 SC updated that did bring quite some new stuff in terms of the tech and some game mechanics, that currently people are still poking on. Elite was also years during development, were people talking about the company & its employees? Or about the game development news/updates, etc..?
It's personal, it's really not related to Star Citizen the fact that guy is married to that woman, that X guy is gay, that Y guy eat spaghetti for dinner last night, that Z employees got involved on sex orgies, that one person who was involved with CIG had links to the "Swedish Mafia" on the past, etc... etc...
Wait a minute, why is she not qualified? Did she not start the company with CR? Was she not the person behind the golden ticket, the hype, merchendizing and a plethora of other things behind the scenes from the start. CIG being at $92 million obviously says she is qualified.
You are saying somebody is not qualified for their job yet you have no idea what she has been doing.
Please do tell me why she is not qualified to be the VP of marketing.
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WoW Helflix, you have dropped low, stooping to personal attacks.
Well since you don't seem to understand what qualified for her job means. She was not qualified for the job she was given, she had no experience and no education. Is that so hard for you to understand? You also have no idea what she has done at CIG and what she is actually responsible for. Its just sad what you have to stoop for in order to defend CIG, I mean really do you really not understand what people are talking about? I am sure she has learned a lot over the past 4 years of SC's development, but that, despite what you are trying to do, does not change history.
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There is not a game what can collapse, because there is no game. There is just fiction, that exists inside the heads of some people. So only a belief can collapse, not a game.
You can simply draw the fact-based conclusion that there is no game, because CIG failed to produce one in a time frame of four years. You don't need to know the internals reasons or listen to rumors, they are irrelevant.
Then it just boils down to: Give money for a game -> deliver no game -> return back money or get lawyered.
Well things go both ways, you some posts ago claimed that Star Citizen puts a ton of effort on Marketing.
Seeing that, is pretty much recognizing she is doing her job well, because well.... 92 Million Dollars in Funded Money wouldn't be the result of "Bad Marketing" campaign.
Four years in it's a bit too late for "early alphas".
Elite is an actual completed video game. "Arena Commander" not a game, it's a cranked up asset demo.
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