^that's far away reply of what was it meant to be on the point made, nvm
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The Star Citizen Thread v 4
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So for Bug of the Year.... This one seems a pretty good entry: 
I think it's actually several names, far this post from Ben here: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5304637/#Comment_5304637
That was the original statement about the Refund of Derek Smart that also talks about jcrg99 and his alts. Not sure if he implied that he, like Smart, got his refund by CIG's initiative or not with account shutdown (meaning all account stuff was deleted). That's why some say he's more famous than Smart himself, has this is one ongoing loop for the almost the past 3 years hitting the same key.
Now if this is all a conspiracy of CIG, the community, Forums, Reddit, etc... Against a single person, being the full target and victim of it... For years already? How can one be the only right and everyone else be wrong/lying?
And to think the whole thing started with a simple T-Shirt...
I think it's actually several names, far this post from Ben here: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5304637/#Comment_5304637
That was the original statement about the Refund of Derek Smart that also talks about jcrg99 and his alts. Not sure if he implied that he, like Smart, got his refund by CIG's initiative or not with account shutdown (meaning all account stuff was deleted). That's why some say he's more famous than Smart himself, has this is one ongoing loop for the almost the past 3 years hitting the same key.
Now if this is all a conspiracy of CIG, the community, Forums, Reddit, etc... Against a single person, being the full target and victim of it... For years already? How can one be the only right and everyone else be wrong/lying?
And to think the whole thing started with a simple T-Shirt...
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So for Bug of the Year.... This one seems a pretty good entry:
http://puu.sh/lOCw4/143423dbf9.jpg
I think it's actually several names, far this post from Ben here: https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5304637/#Comment_5304637
That was the original statement about the Refund of Derek Smart that also talks about jcrg99 and his alts. Not sure if he implied that he, like Smart, got his refund by CIG's initiative or not with account shutdown (meaning all account stuff was deleted). That's why some say he's more famous than Smart himself, has this is one ongoing loop for the almost the past 3 years hitting the same key.
Now if this is all a conspiracy of CIG, the community, Forums, Reddit, etc... Against a single person, being the full target and victim of it... For years already? How can one be the only right and everyone else be wrong/lying?
And to think the whole thing started with a simple T-Shirt...
Interesting. So lesson is (because this doesn't seem dissimilar from the cvc fiasco and thread high jacking that finally got B "S" Lesnick to post in the Controller vs Controller Katamari and say the year of campaigning had nothing to do with why he posted there etc) if the snarky CS guy continues to ignore my request for a refund I just have to post a concerted negative barrage against all things CR and CIG on as many platforms (Twitter, Reddit, Facebook etc) as I can bother. The louder I get the quicker they'll give me my money back. Interesting. I had hoped to do it more quietly but this can work as well. It's certainly less troublesome than getting the ACCC involved (Though a threat of that may get them to move their asses as well).
Apparently if you threaten a chargeback, they refund you pretty fast
All my purchases were with MasterCard so yay. Found the chargeback instructions in a split second. Now, the annoying look through the card history so I can recoup everything.
I believe that most backers, refunded or not, actually want the game to be made as pitched. I know I do.
The problem started in 2013 where the funding campaign really took off. CR made some decisions that was not very beneficial for the whole project.
The complete lack of a visual project management present, and the SC train already at that point was beginning to derail from the original track. The problem here are the backer base, they continue to mix different scopes up, and only see it as one big blob.
Adapting the CE to the need of CIG. This issue was known, however how big a task it actually was didn't come through to the backers. I don't know if the information was suppressed, or they just didn't know at that point.
Constant rework of the ships, again this task has been very time consuming and one can only guess why they made the design a ship contest, as it seam more and more like a diversion maneuver than anything else.
Lack of control testing in AC, they pretty much ignored the testers for oven a year. Nothing came out, not even how they intended it to work. In the end some poor programmer was trying to calm the waters, however it was too late.
You can then top it with all the noise regarding LTI, Star Marine, limited ships and what you get is a big pile of doodoo.
I very much still want SC to be a game, I will get it when its more or less done, pay the price and start from there.
The problem started in 2013 where the funding campaign really took off. CR made some decisions that was not very beneficial for the whole project.
The complete lack of a visual project management present, and the SC train already at that point was beginning to derail from the original track. The problem here are the backer base, they continue to mix different scopes up, and only see it as one big blob.
Adapting the CE to the need of CIG. This issue was known, however how big a task it actually was didn't come through to the backers. I don't know if the information was suppressed, or they just didn't know at that point.
Constant rework of the ships, again this task has been very time consuming and one can only guess why they made the design a ship contest, as it seam more and more like a diversion maneuver than anything else.
Lack of control testing in AC, they pretty much ignored the testers for oven a year. Nothing came out, not even how they intended it to work. In the end some poor programmer was trying to calm the waters, however it was too late.
You can then top it with all the noise regarding LTI, Star Marine, limited ships and what you get is a big pile of doodoo.
I very much still want SC to be a game, I will get it when its more or less done, pay the price and start from there.
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Not on that aspect, he hasn't loud he just gone too far, of course on his view he didn't but when CR and his wife even complained about being harassed by his emails, to a point one even goes to send messages to the anonymous hacktivists to destroy star citizen, tons of alt accounts, that's going too far. A silly ridiculous situation on my opinion, i got over close family passing away in a year, one can't get past a game refund in 3.
If that's what will make you happy, i hope you get your refund. On my side i'll poke on playing 2.0.
That was the big difference if Star Citizen had 100M on funding from day 1, than have it 3 years later. Caused the game to scale several times, as they could do more/better, then rewrites here and there. But those ones were minor, the big delays would have been avoided if the Germany Studio was online back then, as they do the most essential engine works on its technologies, that finally start to come together now.
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The same as here.
Not on that aspect, he hasn't loud he just gone too far, of course on his view he didn't but when CR and his wife even complained about being harassed by his emails, to a point one even goes to send messages to the anonymous hacktivists to destroy star citizen, tons of alt accounts, that's going too far. A silly ridiculous situation on my opinion, i got over close family passing away in a year, one can't get past a game refund in 3.
If that's what will make you happy, i hope you get your refund. On my side i'll poke on playing 2.0.
That was the big difference if Star Citizen had 100M on funding from day 1, than have it 3 years later. Caused the game to scale several times, as they could do more/better, then rewrites here and there. But those ones were minor, the big delays would have been avoided if the Germany Studio was online back then, as they do the most essential engine works on its technologies, that finally start to come together now.
Around here, we call it, planning for the future
I know its kind of difficult, however most long term projects do this from day one. That is what I like about ED and FD, they actually planned>developed>executed and we are now in the implementation/polishing phase even its a big polish sometimes
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On the subject of toxicity on the SC forums:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3w2u1g/someone_remind_me_why_maul218_is_a_moderator_on/
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3w2u1g/someone_remind_me_why_maul218_is_a_moderator_on/
Ugh Volunteer forum moderators un-controlled by the community management.
Be a Lurker is always best bet. Said many times, things turn aggressive too fast.
I find interesting the SC Reddit is almost in a "war" with the RSI Forums. Oh the feelings that go on in there...
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In a strange twist of fate the same mod's getting accused of being a "frontier mole". I censored it for this forum. It's all getting a bit tin-foil hat time.
This is the link to the link in the above post.
http://i.imgur.com/wBIx09F.jpg
Here's the post
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...maul218_is_a_moderator_on/?sort=controversial
Frontier Mole? Oh no someone is not deleting the negative SC posts on the Elite Dangerous thread on the RSI Forums!!!
Oh seriously now, if the whole forum was moderated like the Elite Dangerous thread on the same forum... Frontier Mole undercover on RSI made me laugh
Frontier Mole? Oh no someone is not deleting the negative SC posts on the Elite Dangerous thread on the RSI Forums!!!
Oh seriously now, if the whole forum was moderated like the Elite Dangerous thread on the same forum... Frontier Mole undercover on RSI made me laugh
I'm glad we finally agree on something, this is all getting far too silly.
But it is entertaining in a reality TV sort of way.
Nice rewrite of the history. I almost believe it. Maybe if you and a couple of guys repeat that with one or two more of your accounts, making 10/30 posts saying the same, I will believe
And don't forget to do the same in all social media, reddit, cig forums, because then, I will have no doubt about such "true"
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I'm not the master of alt accounts here. I don't need, neither will i, to create tons of accounts to desperatly try to make a point during almost 3 years on almost every place on the Internet that speaks of SC.Nice rewrite of the history. I almost believe it. Maybe if you repeate that with one or two more of your accounts I will believe
We should never speak for all of them it's not because the actions of some, everybody should be put on the same box. But some around does the most silly unbalanced actions that do not even follow their own guidelines, causing madness like this.
Then the SC Reddit all proud of its balanced approach of things, has also a heavy "downvote hammer", but at least discussions are far more possible.
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Haha. There was a guy banned from these forums many months ago who was very provocative in his defense of SC and ridicule of Elite. Recently he had started posting similar content in the Elite katamarii thread and generally being very confrontational which earned him a couple of probabtions and no doubt, this warning. Clearly he believes his banning and probations are down to others and not anything that he has said or done.
Neither I. But definitely some of the followers of the holy cause areI'm not the master of alt accounts here. I don't need, neither will i, to create tons of accounts to desperatly try to make a point during almost 3 years on almost every place on the Internet that speaks of SC.
They spent thousands of dollars on the thing, after all. Some even are earning money in the grey. Made of SC an additional source of income. Their attitude/effort to protect the cause, no matter what, shouldn't be a surprise.
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