The Star Citizen Thread v8

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frostypaw

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ianw said:
I like to think Ortwin is currently frantically flicking through the pages of the book he wrote 30 odd years ago to figure out their next move whilst Chris anxiously looks on...
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You gotta absolutely love it that CT struck the bits referring to him but he just couldn't help himself and has brought himself right into the firing line of such a huge firm.

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Reddit Insanity said:
Their plan is likely to attempt to use the corrupt video game press and publicity to drag this lawsuit out and attempt to get them to settle
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*tinfoil* Damn video game press, always conspiring. That's why RSI/CIG were forced to create all those fake review sites
 
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ianw

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Yay, a video in which he says CIG will win because he could not be bothered to read all the documents.
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Actually he's ceding quite a few points this time and is talking about a jury - he is at least acknowledging there are a few "possible breaches"

It's very different from what the fans interpreted previously as a slam dunk for the MtD.

ETA - his interpretation so far seems to be this is so far from the slam dunk scenario it's almost embarrasing.. waves at Reddit..
 
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McGlashan

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ianw said:
Actually he's ceding quite a few points this time and is talking about a jury - he is at least acknowledging there are a few "possible breaches"

It's very different from what the fans interpreted previously as a slam dunk for the MtD.

ETA - his interpretation so far seems to be this so far from the slam dunk scenario it's almost embarrasing.. waves at Reddit..
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From what I recall his reading of CIG's response was perfectly reasonable, but of course DS was in the chat and since Leonard dared to disagree with him he sort of became branded a biased CIG fanboy, in that stupid polarised way everything is interpreted these days. It's not as if he had a filing cabinet full of material to cross reference all details like I expect Derek does, he was simply reading a legal document.

I'll watch the edited video when I get the chance but I fully expect the new docs will get the same treatment. Will that mean Leonard is now branded a goon?
 
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TenakaFurey

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Can someone just remind me what CIG's take was on the word "exclusively" ?
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That only CIG could develop SC.

It was and is nonsense as they were trying to assert that it meant CryTek could not have another team develop SC. CryTek never owned SCs IP therefore this was not going to happen
 

ianw

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McGlashan said:
From what I recall his reading of CIG's response was perfectly reasonable, but of course DS was in the chat and since Leonard dared to disagree with him he sort of became branded a biased CIG fanboy, in that stupid polarised way everything is interpreted these days. It's not as if he had a filing cabinet full of material to cross reference all details like I expect Derek does, he was simply reading a legal filing.

I'll watch the edited video when I get the chance but I fully expect the new docs will get the same treatment. Will that mean Leonard is now branded a goon?
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I didn't even listen to the first one - I rely on other people to do that generally and then I make my "judgement" based on their judgements. My "judgements" are often influenced by things like "are their eyes too close together" - "do they wear headgear indoors" etc.

I can totally see that Derek's presence would have blown the whole thing up - perhaps I should have watched live!

I am however watching - or at least listening - to this one.

ETA - it seems clear to me listening to this that the backers have lost their perceived champion in this - I wonder how they'll spin it..
 
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Barking_Mad

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Leonard French saying "exclusivity" is a muddied word and they will have to look at previous Crytek contracts to see how it is used and how it is used elsewhere in the game industry.
 

TenakaFurey

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From what I recall his reading of CIG's response was perfectly reasonable
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His reading was "reasonable" but his judgement that he would throw the case out was premature...it overlooked that CIGs MtD ignored many of CryTeks charges, ignored the possibility of further evidence and ignored that a lot depended on legal interpretation

It still does. This was never going to be dismissed and it's too early to call a winner. This was never a slam dunk....CIG can still win and CryTek still has a case. Its a strong case...I think CIG are essentially guilty but proving intent might be problematic and there is a question as to interpretation

I'm quite pleased at how much of Skaddens response was actually picked up here. We seem to have covered the responses they have quite well

Anyone want to try and go for CIGs response? I'm going to guess they'll hit at Ex4 and try to get RSI removed even if it strengthens the copyright case against CIG
 
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ianw

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"I'm being told there is no squadron 42 separate"

Me - Unless I'm mistaken SQ42 has already been sold (and marketed) separately to SC - no?

"nobody should take my word that I'm speaking as the final word.." LJF (paraphrased somewhat...)

ETA - he really isn't coming across as a biased fan from what I've heard so far...
 
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Cmdr Eagleboy

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As I said.....ohh crap I was right on almost all points.

Where's my IP lawyer's diploma?

SC is done.

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Leonard French saying "exclusivity" is a muddied word and they will have to look at previous Crytek contracts to see how it is used and how it is used elsewhere in the game industry.
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It is almost strange how fixates on very bizzare part of case which isn't even most important one.
 
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