The Star Citizen Thread v8
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It does seem quite apt. After all, we are still in the early development phase of the PU, whereas “buy MOAR jpeg” has seen more polish than Darth Vader’s helmet.
There is no need for that really. Games that don't happen are still games that could have been. And Star Citizen imo could have been great. Alas.
I backed back in 2014. I already knew who Chris Roberts was and what happened in the development of his games. The idea of MMO WC was cool though (been an EVE Online player for a decade), so I thought I'd give the project a chance (pledged 65$ or so for a shiny "Origin 315p explorer"). I'd also get a cool modern WC space-sim/opera out of it for the price of admission.
At this point, there really are unsurmountable problems with the project.
One of them is the technical and engineering debt that has been accumulating so far over all these years. It is really impossible to get an end product that does not break many of the promises its developers made to fund making it.
The second one is game balance. At this point, the only thing worse than the game never coming out would be if the game did. CIG is trying to make an MMO with a balanced NPE and PPE while at the same time avoiding RMT/P2W, planning for a post-release revenue stream via Cr/$ (among voluntary subscriptions and other things), hoping for a balanced MMO game economy and having to deliver $180M+ of game assets holding a tangible in-game value to the playerbase. At launch. While proclaiming to everyone that pays money for ingame assets now that "when the game launches, the stuff you bought with real money will be worth a lot, LOT more in converted gameplay value. Grab them now, they are only getting more expensive as time goes on".
This is an insane ride. I'm still on the train, but I'm mildly more interested in the trainwreck I think it's coming. I don't really feel bad about it, or even want my money back. And I hope I am either dead wrong (thus getting two good games out of this in the end) or dead right (and getting enough drama to chew on for years).
I really cannot lose in this.
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I gave up hope of SC ever being released a long time ago, but was prepared to be pleasantly surprised if it did.
Now I'm afraid you might be right.
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One is a prerequisite for the other and vice versa.
That sounds like a Catch-42.
Umm... catch 22.
Wow, i totally forgot about that. I remember going on a PA reading binge years ago and seeing that one.
No. 42. You just don't know the question yet.
"Six by nine. Forty two."
"That's it. That's all there is."
"I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe"
Yes, that was the joke...
dayrth
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So allegedly Roberts is looking to either sell or enlist a major funding source for SC and currently has no takers... Grain of salt obviously as we all know the source. If it's true though then there's clearly a feeling that the current funding model is not sustainable.
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Even if true - I can’t imagine anyone wanting to buy it. Use of the name Star Citizen perhaps, but the actual IP itself - the lore, the universe - the buckets of ships and the thimble of the game itself - it’s worthless.
Even selling on as a cash cow, a new owner would find they still have two games to produce.
Even selling on as a cash cow, a new owner would find they still have two games to produce.
The art assets and established player base are worth something. Working out of the mire of "the BDSSE" code and readjusting expectations with reality? Maybe not.
In super slow motion with epic collateral.
I dont know man, the dude is currently gloating about how he succesfully predicted another ship sale. Gotta hand it to him, there is another ship sale, and none of us saw it coming.
Is that true though? If someone buys the 'engine' (lol, dont ask), assets, lore etc, do they really take on any of the responsibilities? Cant they just specifically buy a few things and 'not the package'? And if so, anyone wanna bet that CIG will be forced to sell SC to Chrizzz Space Industries soon?
I dont know man, the dude is currently gloating about how he succesfully predicted another ship sale. Gotta hand it to him, there is another ship sale, and none of us saw it coming.
Is that true though? If someone buys the 'engine' (lol, dont ask), assets, lore etc, do they really take on any of the responsibilities? Cant they just specifically buy a few things and 'not the package'? And if so, anyone wanna bet that CIG will be forced to sell SC to Chrizzz Space Industries soon?
I think it depends. If there's a game that can be made, then they may want to take on the responsibility. If there's no context to the assets then it's all more garbage than we already suspect. Imagine being on the team for 7 years and walking away with literally nothing other than jpegs... At least the Devs and artists got paid for it. "Backers" paid for them and that has to hurt.
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