But thats just it....they are pushing patches through with a very high speed and frankly, those patch notes read like a boring "todays deals at Walmart" entry rather then headlines. Patches were supposed to be MILESTONES regarding content and feature implementation....we are still in Alpha...thats how patches in Alpha work...they get things done. Instead CiG are wasting their time with honing and finetuning stuff as well as adressing "some" serious issues but when has there been something major coming from them?
Hurston?
Aint Star Citizen supposed to have a working procedural engine in the fold making such things a minor affair? Instead we waited how long for the next planet? Sounds to me as if all the things are 100% handmade explaining the long developing times. So while Hurston is nice to look at it only points out problems with past claims. So many things from the past coming to catch up and biting CiG in the tush. Its great that they still have so many people focusing on the + only while completely disregarding the - but I m still not convinced that they are honestly trying to make a game. Its rather all about the MVP, getting legally into the clear then walk away while leaving something that barely works.
I didnt even know there were any other patches planned after 3.3.5, originally it was supposed to be an interim "break" (because....shocking....CiG didnt make their own deadline again) between 3.3 and 3.4 instead we are now on a roll going up and up, are at 3.3.8(?) and all these patches do nothing else then maintenance stuff...hilarious. I know why they are doing it of course. After all the naysayers claiming that they "wont make their own timetable again" they are now pushing into a much reduced 3.4 bugriddled version and all ONLY to stick it to the haters. Never mind that their 3.4 "in time" will not be an accomplishment nor the jeesus-patch (again).
Btw....which patch is currently supposed to be the wunder-patch? 4.0? I m a bit out of the loop and my koolaid has run out back in 2015 ^^
Its pretty much the same tactic they did in the past. "90 days top" didnt work out because they massively cut down on cost and their development progress rate took a nose-dive.
Its great that some people can "have fun" in this thing but frankly...I m still living in 2012-2014, have all the wonderful things spinning in my head that Cash Roberts and Co announced without a shame, bashing other games and people in the process and overall behaved like "winners" already claiming great things to come putting other titles into the shadows and "sticking it to the publishers".
My what a long way we have come since then. It turns out that CiG is just as bad as all the big bad publishers combined but for me their dishonesty and prizetags make them even worse. Pretty much nothing they think of has the air of "breakthrough" or "never seen before" and they are spending more time in pre-alpha then other games complete development cycle. Some camps (*cough* fanatics*cough*) have countered this by bloating up "the dream" more and more even tho along the way CiG proves time and time again that they only slow down and get less things done then originally planned. Once in a while there is a life-sign from this corpse which is then again praised and celebrated as the second coming but I dont really see anything being done that might save this "ambitious" project. "Too ambitious for its own good" is just another term for "failed"...
Seriously....there isnt anything left in what Star Citizen could "stand out" and that already is a low goal compared to what it wanted to achieve a few years back. Now all it has as a novelty are space legs, thats it. Everything else is pretty much bad compared to the competition out there and that includes graphics as well. And tho I didnt check out X4 in detail it seems to be offering everything that SC does. Doesnt look as shiny? Oh but at least its a finished game, released and with actual working gameloops and not just 2 or 3 but the whole package. Give it a couple more years....see what kind of games will release then while Star Citizen is still busy handcrafting the next planet.
We used to talk about technical issues in this place or discuss grander things then just "Oh I made a trade run yesterday" blog-entries which currently pop up all the time then get replies for another 2 pages. Minutia reports of a 45 min run that didnt crash as if that was a milestone (which it is hahaha). Is that the "idea" of countering all this hate speech?
I mean really...is there ANYTHING IMPORTANT to report or discuss anymore? Do any of the latest patches since 3.3.5 stand out in any way besides "getting more FPS, more stable and I dont crash as often"?
People report how they made trade runs, even went through the mind numbing grind of saving up enough to actually buy anything ingame all the while claiming that this experience is "much better then in game X" when all I can see is preference and bias and nothing really that would stand out in any way. I find that mindset worrying especially when I afterwards go to twitch or YT in order to check out said claims and be met with the same old same mix of propaganda edited videos, honest attempts to showcase something going through the loops (boring me to tears) or shows of an utterly broken tech-demo. I dont even have to search for such material anymore having looked enough that YouTube thinks I am "really interested" in this topic shoving up more then enough stuff down my throat whenever I go check out YT
When people claim to have engaging and immersing sessions of gameplay spending rather "hundreds of hours" in SC then in any other boring game....where are they then? "Playing the game"? Lol certainly not when they have the time to visit a competing games forum in order to report their great fun....in words only mind you because so far there have been zero videos backing up any of the claims of superiority.
Occasionally when I ask about "whats new?" I get directed to the newest accomplishes of CiG which usually break down to "looks great, doesnt work" or are immediately excused with "will be addressed in the next patch". The ugly part is that some fanatics and super fanboys describe their experiences in a way that equals religious bliss while reality is unable to match that. But I played other games and have to see and endure them getting bashed for things that are even worse in SC IMO.....not going to shell out any money for entry, if its really so great any one of the videos or streams should be able to capture it at a moments notice. I just dont see any of that. The absolute best videos about Star Citizen are advertisement clips or fan-made machina's but actual gameplay is still as horrible as it was in 2015.
I get it.....Star Citizen absolutely needs the reinforcing cycle of pep talk and defense in order to keep going. By now even the fans probably have recognized this on a subconcious level, CiG doesnt even need to interfere anymore, their remaining SCD force is well trained and knows whats important. Just focus on individual "fun" rather then actual accomplishes. Spam everything with minutia "oh I did something mundane today" anecdotes and ignore any accusations or worries about capabilities out of hands because thats all "old news".
Yeah....Star Citizen is broken for years now, progress happens at a pace that puts snails to sleep but if you observe a large enough timeline (say...the last 4 years) then you can still score some pointsin a discussion where people are worried about SC not going anywhere....
Its sad to see that the insufficient and bugged state of Star Citizen has become the norm in peoples minds which makes everything that bizarrely works once in a while a special occurrence demonstrating how SC is "going places, just you wait, NOW its going to show everybody"
Its a grudge of mine not because I "hate" Star Citizen as some like to say but because I dont forget or are so new to the project that I wouldnt know. First impressions count. And with all the things that CiG handled absolutely horrendous over the years from community interaction to deceptive claims and providing eye candy and smoke and mirrors instead of real accomplishes the "bar" to swing my assessment around is really really high. That would be the point at which I come around to admit that even tho it was a bumpy road I can see CiG "getting there". I need more then just an increase in FPS or "less crashing" in order to get me into their camp. Running their toxic fanbase run over everybody unrestricted hasnt help and as some have said already.....this "game" might very well be dead upon release simply for the years of community interaction with the real world.
The Free flight weekends are not a good indicator.
What? You mean the few "new accounts" and faces suddenly popping up reporting how this is a great game and everything works, well worth sinking a few hundred bucks into...basically regurgitating everything that the "hardcore WKs" did for the last couple of years is in any way sufficient to show improvement? *laughs* you realize that all this could very well be orchestrated and pretense? Its the internet after all. I can make a new account and change my behavior at any time...I m sure I could be a beloved member of the SC community "if I wanted to" simply by writing stuff I dont mean or lying about my true opinion. Works any which way.....
Its simply not large enough to give a good rapport about "the waters" and the public's opinion and stance to the matter. Carefully optimistic or confident. Hyped or reserved. I only see the same old fortified camps arguing about tidbits and a select few "new faces" popping in usually to bolster the yes-camp. The quality of these reports usually reveals the writers true intentions. If Star Citizen really would ve made massive improvements or managed to capture new blood due to its qualities we would see a much larger movement then a few thousand "loyals" could manage with their multiple accounts. But thats not the case. Its just the size of both opposite camps blotting out the middle ground. New people tend to try to stay "neutral" or "impressed but worried at the same time". This usually doesnt last long until they come under attack whenever one of the trained attack dogs has a bad day lashing out at everything and everybody inevitably pushing middle ground people to the "hater" camp.
After all....it takes a special kind of mindset (certainly not "neutral" or "unbiased") to describe Star Citizen in its current form as "incredible and great"...not when actual footage doesnt resemble these terms so it must be fabricated or the person reporting this is prone to exaggeration. Its just too much in one go, the fake accounts usually dont know how to be "subtle". Even the ones we have remaining here (grin) tend to stay very low on the radar knowing how going overboard only hurts em. On the other hand....saying negative things about Star Citizen doesnt fit the same category simply because....well....hardly anything works and it IS an (pre-)alpha. But most fanatics claim that Star Citizen "already offers more and better gameplay then all these boring games out there". It was making the public curious about this upcoming game but that train has gone as well (pun intended). After all most of these claims are simply verbal rebukes or attempts to counter the truth. Some here have even admitted to play "devils advocate" simply to "balance" all the negativity. Weak excuse really especially if it doesnt reflect your standing, just trolling or trying to reach an artificial balance that SC simply doesnt deserve.
Star Citizen really had more then enough chances over these long years. Now, according to the "more sane" voices defending it all it can hope for is that "there is some kind of game in there" which is really pathetic and hilarious when you remember how it all started....I do and I wont simply forget the uncomfortable facts just to "give it a chance".
I think you're nitpicking a bit on the patch contents there Fritz, compared to my recollections on how it was prior to 3.0, this is a welcome improvement...
I'm by no means a new account, a cult member or fanboi of any description. I'm merely a returning backer...to a lesser degree than previously, I've been around that block before. I'm also not prone to falsely exaggerating nor blindly defending the current state of SC...but I do give honest credit where credit is due on what I experience as a run of the mill, ordinary player in SC....both the good and the frankly awful.
Perhaps you should reserve such wholly judgemental commentary until such time as you've at least sampled a free fly weekend of the current offerings? CiG's business practises may be bordering on criminal, their marketing strategies predatory...but enjoying what's currently presented in SC is neither a crime nor any reason for needlessly pointed fingers and tar brushing derision.
As usual, rep for the viewpoint and the interesting read though
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