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Thargoids and Witch space

  • Yes

    Votes: 531 48.9%
  • No

    Votes: 42 3.9%
  • Both

    Votes: 492 45.3%
  • Neither

    Votes: 21 1.9%

  • Total voters
    1,086
Aye, I would indeed do so. Humans in "Eliteverse" are very varied though, we have High-G, Low-G, and so on variants - "humans" aren't something unified. Genetic engineering is rampant. Something what we (RL) might deem 'alien' is something very commonplace.


that means somewhere there are cat girls, in ED. I'm going to sit here and let it sink in. 5db.jpeg
 
1st question: If the Thargoids or an Alien species does appear in Elite which side of the galaxy would they appear on? And which would be the closest station they would reach?
2nd question: Does anyone know from the past elite games if you could ally with them?
3rd question: Is there a way to replicate there technology or getting there ships and stuff?
4th question: Would they be able to speak our language?
5th question: What do they look like?
6th question: Can we trade with them?
7th question: When we do get the ability to have crews can we have half crew human and half crew thargoid or full crew thargoid?
8th question: What kind of society structure would that have?
9th question: Can we visit there home worlds/worlds?
10th question: Probably the coolest of my questions can we play as them?
Update 1
11th question: When the thargoids do show up which major/minor factions would they ally or associate with?
Update 2
12th question: Which major/minor faction is doing research into Thargoids/Aliens?


1. Historically it was the Pleiades and Polaris, however seeing how they like witchspace they could be practically in your living room and you wouldn't know.. Lore does seem to speculate that they may have gone pretty far after the war... and other stories seem to link them to the LMC which is outside of our galaxy.
2. In a way... yes. You helped them, they gave you access to their station and a ship...I guess that would be technically allied.
3. Not in ED ...yet. In the last game you got to fly one of their ships also lore says that a lot of advanced tech like ECM and the Inter Species translator is of Thargoid origin.
4. Not natively but through a translator (see interspecies translator)
5. Sort of like a humanoid praying mantis only 4 arms 2 legs 3 digits each... bug like
6. Not yet...
7. I wouldn't count on that. You see we like air that is mostly nitrogen/oxygen... they like ammonia. Wouldn't work too well.
8. Hive society much like insects they evolved from. They are mostly female drones (meaning most don't reproduce) and are tasked with building and defending their colonies... other than that I don't know what passes for Thargoid fun but I wouldn't bet on them having adopted the game of UNO or family movie night.
9. Not yet...
10. I don't think that will happen, I could be wrong tho.
11. If I was to guess it would be the Alliance since they are who aided them in the last Elite game
12. Just about all major factions have spent considerable resources in attempting to study and research Thargoid science, however to this date only the Alliance has focused on attempting peaceful research into Thargoid society and tech as opposed to both Federation and Empire who in the past have cooperated in attempting to surpass Thargoid tech with the obvious purpose of conquest and potential eradication of the species. Currently I would imagine most major faction still maintain a healthy research budget, however if you're looking more into player generated content I can tell you that us friendly folks from the Canonn are dedicated to researching the galaxy's greatest scientific unknowns which for the most part will include the Thargoids at one point or another.
 
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1st question: If the Thargoids or an Alien species does appear in Elite which side of the galaxy would they appear on? And which would be the closest station they would reach?
2nd question: Does anyone know from the past elite games if you could ally with them?
3rd question: Is there a way to replicate there technology or getting there ships and stuff?
4th question: Would they be able to speak our language?
5th question: What do they look like?
6th question: Can we trade with them?
7th question: When we do get the ability to have crews can we have half crew human and half crew thargoid or full crew thargoid?
8th question: What kind of society structure would that have?
9th question: Can we visit there home worlds/worlds?
10th question: Probably the coolest of my questions can we play as them?
Update 1
11th question: When the thargoids do show up which major/minor factions would they ally or associate with?
Update 2
12th question: Which major/minor faction is doing research into Thargoids/Aliens?


1. Historically it was the Pleiades and Polaris, however seeing how they like witchspace they could be practically in your living room and you wouldn't know.. Lore does seem to speculate that they may have gone pretty far after the war... and other stories seem to link them to the LMC which is outside of our galaxy.
2. In a way... yes. You helped them, they gave you access to their station and a ship...I guess that would be technically allied.
3. Not in ED ...yet. In the last game you got to fly one of their ships also lore says that a lot of advanced tech like ECM and the Inter Species translator is of Thargoid origin.
4. Not natively but through a translator (see interspecies translator)
5. Sort of like a humanoid praying mantis only 4 arms 2 legs 3 digits each... bug like
6. Not yet...
7. I wouldn't count on that. You see we like air that is mostly nitrogen/oxygen... they like ammonia. Wouldn't work too well.
8. Hive society much like insects they evolved from. They are mostly female drones (meaning most don't reproduce) and are tasked with building and defending their colonies... other than that I don't know what passes for Thargoid fun but I wouldn't bet on them having adopted the game of UNO or family movie night.
9. Not yet...
10. I don't think that will happen, I could be wrong tho.
11. If I was to guess it would be the Alliance since they are who aided them in the last Elite game
12. Just about all major factions have spent considerable resources in attempting to study and research Thargoid science, however to this date only the Alliance has focused on attempting peaceful research into Thargoid society and tech as opposed to both Federation and Empire who in the past have cooperated in attempting to surpass Thargoid tech with the obvious purpose of conquest and potential eradication of the species. Currently I would imagine most major faction still maintain a healthy research budget, however if you're looking more into player generated content I can tell you that us friendly folks from the Canonn are dedicated to researching the galaxy's greatest scientific unknowns which for the most part will include the Thargoids at one point or another.

Thankyou for taking the time to write this and all of you who are contributing. I will have to take a look at the first question you answered will have to find where that is at.

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I do see that there is a Permit required for Polaris interesting. Although is Pleiades a system?
 
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Thankyou for taking the time to write this and all of you who are contributing. I will have to take a look at the first question you answered will have to find where that is at.

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I do see that there is a Permit required for Polaris interesting. Although is Pleiades a system?

The Pleiades are a constellation with 7 stars. Look for Pleione (which is where you encountered the Thargoids in Frontier First Encounters) and of course Merope which is a hotly debated system right now because it is the star system the is being referenced by the Unknown Artefact (UA for short or AEO if you go by Galnet).
 
"The Pleiades" is the name of a cluster of stars visible to the naked eye from Earth; you can find them around what is called in the game the "Pleiades nebula", about 500 LY from Sol.

It should be pointed out that in FFE, the Pleiades were not directly related to the Thargoids. An experimental Alliance-funded long-range exploration ship was ambushed and destroyed while in a Pleiades star (can't recall which one), presumably by the INRA, and part of the FFE storyline was to fly to that star, find the wrecked spaceship and retrieve the data which then pointed you to Polaris, where a Thargoid outpost / transport ship was located.
 
The Thargoids are coming:- Huge fleet discovered near Barnard Loop

Check out this shot I just took.


Weird...think a few issues with pixels in exploring??

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"The Pleiades" is the name of a cluster of stars visible to the naked eye from Earth; you can find them around what is called in the game the "Pleiades nebula", about 500 LY from Sol.

It should be pointed out that in FFE, the Pleiades were not directly related to the Thargoids. An experimental Alliance-funded long-range exploration ship was ambushed and destroyed while in a Pleiades star (can't recall which one), presumably by the INRA, and part of the FFE storyline was to fly to that star, find the wrecked spaceship and retrieve the data which then pointed you to Polaris, where a Thargoid outpost / transport ship was located.


Ah okay I might have to take a trip out to Polaris. Someone mentioned that when you got a ship from them in the previous game you were near a system although I am having trouble figuring out which system that is. Although I guess my first stop will be the Polaris system or at least the systems around it.
 
OK, I've found my old notes I made back when I played FFE. The Thargoid ship/station/whatever you found in Polaris transported/teleported you to the Miackce system, in galactic sector [+37, +114].

You won't find "Miackce" on the ED galactic map; it's a procedurally-generated random name, now replaced by the alphabet-soup randomized nomenclature.

Sector co-ordinates have changed somewhat, too, but I think it's roughly analogous to adding a zero to the current galactic co-ordinates. So it should equate to somewhere out around +370, 0, +1140 in the current co-ordinate system. Or, 1200 LY from Sol in the general direction of the Lupus Dark Region nebulae, out in the middle of the PRAEA EUQ sector. Which isn't permit-locked.

I seem to recall Miackce was just a Thargoid fleet waypoint, no planets or stations, just a mass of Thargoid ships floating there while you talked to them. If you revisited the system later in your superfast Thargoid gift-ship, there wasn't anything there - the fleet had moved on. So this doesn't really help in finding an actual Thargoid planet or space station.
 
OK, I've found my old notes I made back when I played FFE. The Thargoid ship/station/whatever you found in Polaris transported/teleported you to the Miackce system, in galactic sector [+37, +114].

You won't find "Miackce" on the ED galactic map; it's a procedurally-generated random name, now replaced by the alphabet-soup randomized nomenclature.

Sector co-ordinates have changed somewhat, too, but I think it's roughly analogous to adding a zero to the current galactic co-ordinates. So it should equate to somewhere out around +370, 0, +1140 in the current co-ordinate system. Or, 1200 LY from Sol in the general direction of the Lupus Dark Region nebulae, out in the middle of the PRAEA EUQ sector. Which isn't permit-locked.

I seem to recall Miackce was just a Thargoid fleet waypoint, no planets or stations, just a mass of Thargoid ships floating there while you talked to them. If you revisited the system later in your superfast Thargoid gift-ship, there wasn't anything there - the fleet had moved on. So this doesn't really help in finding an actual Thargoid planet or space station.

It seems the thread has been merged with another thread.

Ah okay thank you did the Thargoids have a home planet or any planets that they used?
 
11. In FFE, the Alliance were their friends, who sided with the Thargoids against the INRA, the top-secret super-evil joint Empire/Federation anti-alien agency. One could argue that the Alliance was created in FFE specifically to give the Thargoids a human faction they could be friendly with. Whether this historic alignment remains or is forgotten, remains to be seen.

THIS
and the link to the time line above.

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Timeline

does anyone have a link to the story content around the Alliance Thargoid treaty?
 
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Ah okay thank you did the Thargoids have a home planet or any planets that they used?

It's assumed they did, though I don't think any of the incarnations of Elite not the official (canonical) novels and stories mention where it is or it's physical description. I seem to recall one of the short stories suggesting the Thargoids may even be a nomadic species, moving through the galaxy in their fleet and never settling in one place for very long - if so, then perhaps some other even more xenophobic alien race destroyed their original homeworld long ago.

does anyone have a link to the story content around the Alliance Thargoid treaty?

I don't know if there ever was a formal "treaty". All we know about the post-FFE-pre-FD timeline, as far as the "official canon" is concerned, are the in-game newspaper articles (the FFE precursor to Galnet) that appeared long after the main FFE storyline was completed. You can read them on this old webpage: http://www.jades.org/3255.htm

The FFE game was notoriously glitchy, and one of the glitches was how the newspapers worked, or rather didn't work properly, with articles sometimes appearing in random (non-chronological) order and game-relevant place-names replaced with the name of the planet you happened to be on when reading the article. It's uncertain whether or not anyone was ever actually supposed to read those articles, or if they were part of a planned continuation of "the plot" that was abandoned. So it's uncertain exactly how "canonical" they should be considered.
 
I voted yes to targoids. But I didn't know what witch space was. I thought it was a joke since it's Halloween tomorrow. After knowing what witch space is, I would leave it up to the devs. I have no idea if it would be good or bad.
 
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It's assumed they did, though I don't think any of the incarnations of Elite not the official (canonical) novels and stories mention where it is or it's physical description. I seem to recall one of the short stories suggesting the Thargoids may even be a nomadic species, moving through the galaxy in their fleet and never settling in one place for very long - if so, then perhaps some other even more xenophobic alien race destroyed their original homeworld long ago.



I don't know if there ever was a formal "treaty". All we know about the post-FFE-pre-FD timeline, as far as the "official canon" is concerned, are the in-game newspaper articles (the FFE precursor to Galnet) that appeared long after the main FFE storyline was completed. You can read them on this old webpage: http://www.jades.org/3255.htm

The FFE game was notoriously glitchy, and one of the glitches was how the newspapers worked, or rather didn't work properly, with articles sometimes appearing in random (non-chronological) order and game-relevant place-names replaced with the name of the planet you happened to be on when reading the article. It's uncertain whether or not anyone was ever actually supposed to read those articles, or if they were part of a planned continuation of "the plot" that was abandoned. So it's uncertain exactly how "canonical" they should be considered.

Ah them being nomadic would make sense. Although if another alien species did destroy there homeworld then there are bigger worries than the Thargoids. Still hope I can find something out there in the vast amount of space. Would be nice if the devs do make it were the alliance and the thargoids at least trade tech.
 
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