The Type 10 needs a nerf already !

[IndigoWyrd]

Screenshot is still a Type-9 until proven otherwise.
We have no idea what this thing will look like yet, let alone what it will be good for, so all the speculation is moot at this point.

It could be a refit Type-9, it could be something completely different - we won't know until it becomes available.

 

[Ziljan]

Screenshot is still a Type-9 until proven otherwise.
We have no idea what this thing will look like yet, let alone what it will be good for, so all the speculation is moot at this point.

It could be a refit Type-9, it could be something completely different - we won't know until it becomes available.

We can only hope that they'll adjust the T10 to look more like the T9. But yeah, the two images available of the T10 look dramatically different from a T9. The T9 has two main engines with an awesome meaty thruster animation. It also only has two intakes which like organic parts of the ship rather than the 4 tacked on lego bricks on the front of the T10. But maybe we just need to see what kind of cool external animations the T10 has? It could have really cool unique hardpoint animations like the Corvette or the Vulture.

 

[777Driver]

Screenshot is still a Type-9 until proven otherwise.
We have no idea what this thing will look like yet, let alone what it will be good for, so all the speculation is moot at this point.

It could be a refit Type-9, it could be something completely different - we won't know until it becomes available.

Both screenshots I have seen are definitely not the T9. The devs even stated it was a T-10 during live stream. I think it is fairly obvious it will just be a beefed up T9.

Personally I'd just like to see some extra utility mounts, an additional class 8 internal, and that Class 8 FSD discovered during beta, hopefully a Class 8 FSD will cope with all the extra tonnage on that beast.

 

[EUS]

The nerf is baked in.
T-type progression:
T6 great jump range
T7 mediocre jump range
T9 kill-me-now jump range
T10 negative jumprange

 

[Vasco Sapien]

I'm already back in game grinding creds for this thing. I expect it to be VERY expensive.

I wonder if the new Thargoid Tech gold rush in Maia is feathering peoples pockets for this ships release.

 

[Spidey dmd]

Im disappointed in the last few ships. Two fish that suck and now another space cow..

 

[Arithon]

From the back comparing the T9 and T10, the T10 has eight small engine thrusters instead of two large. There is also a dorsal ridge on the Type-10.

From the front there are a number of differences, with more intakes and a number of (possible) hard-points.

A combat ship with a Lakon canopy's visibility would certainly be something new!

 

[777Driver]

From the back comparing the T9 and T10, the T10 has eight small engine thrusters instead of two large. There is also a dorsal ridge on the Type-10.

http://www.elite-dangerous-blog.co.uk/image.axd?picture=/Beyond/type-9-to-type-10-compare.jpg

From the front there are a number of differences, with more intakes and a number of (possible) hard-points.

http://www.elite-dangerous-blog.co.uk/image.axd?picture=/Beyond/type-10-defender.gif

A combat ship with a Lakon canopy's visibility would certainly be something new!

Looks like 4 engines in total with 2 exhaust nozzles per engine. 4 reverse thrusters over the two on the T9

Also looks like it retains the standard 2 small hardpoints either side of the bridge, plus 4 large hardpoints on top of each reverse thruster. Even that combined with the other standard 3 mediums on the T9 will make things interesting.

Should be fun kitting this thing out.

 

[shadragon]

Looks like 4 engines in total with 2 exhaust nozzles per engine. 4 reverse thrusters over the two on the T9

Agreed. I expect at least a 30% increase in base speed over the T-9, two more medium hardpoints, less cargo capacity, but tougher hull.

If REALLY lucky, a C7 FSD.

^^^ Pure Guesstimation ^^^

 

[777Driver]

Agreed. I expect at least a 30% increase in base speed over the T-9, two more medium hardpoints, less cargo capacity, but tougher hull.

^^^ Pure Guesstimation ^^^

Tbh I'd be surprised if they reduced the overall capacity. I am thinking more along the lines of a dedicated cargo slot, perhaps with anti corrosive tech built in.

 

[shadragon]

Tbh I'd be surprised if they reduced the overall capacity. I am thinking more along the lines of a dedicated cargo slot, perhaps with anti corrosive tech built in.

Perhaps, but (and this is speculation) I suspect the T-10 will carry less to fit all the extra goodies. More utility slots as well, forgot about them. Arithon's image above does show a narrower hull, with all else more or less the same, save thrusters. I'm using same logic as the T-6 / Keelback. All those extra goodies result in less cargo room.

T-6 5,5,4,4,3,2,2
KB 5,5,4,3,2,2


T-9 8,7,6,5,4,4,3,3,2 (532 Max cargo)
T-10 8,7,6,5,4,3,3,2 (516 Max cargo)

(Or something like that - I doubt they'd drop the C5 as that's where the fighter bay goes.)

If you want to deliver cargo in a high sec area, you use a T-9. If you want to deliver cargo in low sec or anarchy you'd use a T-10. If the Thargs start hyperdicting everywhere then the T-10 may not be negotiable.

Whatever we end up with, be assured Vindicator Jones will have it spooled up with hull reinfs and be in a RES within a day of it coming out.

 

[Lightspeed]

From the back comparing the T9 and T10, the T10 has eight small engine thrusters instead of two large. There is also a dorsal ridge on the Type-10.

http://www.elite-dangerous-blog.co.uk/image.axd?picture=/Beyond/type-9-to-type-10-compare.jpg

From the front there are a number of differences, with more intakes and a number of (possible) hard-points.

http://www.elite-dangerous-blog.co.uk/image.axd?picture=/Beyond/type-10-defender.gif

A combat ship with a Lakon canopy's visibility would certainly be something new!

An intriguing visual analysis ! +1

 

[CMDR Kantos Kan]

Tbh I'd be surprised if they reduced the overall capacity. I am thinking more along the lines of a dedicated cargo slot, perhaps with anti corrosive tech built in.

Same here. For its size, you would think the T-9 would be able to carry a lot more. That's really what I would like, a real, massive freighter. I have an Imperial Cutter that I use when doing CGs or having to haul a lot of stuff but, sometimes, I like flying the T-9. It's just that feeling of a massive ship that I love. I hope the T-10 will give me even more that feeling, although I don't expect it to approach the Cutter's cargo capacity

 

[Lightspeed]

Both screenshots I have seen are definitely not the T9. The devs even stated it was a T-10 during live stream. I think it is fairly obvious it will just be a beefed up T9.

Personally I'd just like to see some extra utility mounts, an additional class 8 internal, and that Class 8 FSD discovered during beta, hopefully a Class 8 FSD will cope with all the extra tonnage on that beast.

Agreed. I expect at least a 30% increase in base speed over the T-9, two more medium hardpoints, less cargo capacity, but tougher hull.

If REALLY lucky, a C7 FSD.

^^^ Pure Guesstimation ^^^

777 refers to the existence of a class 8 FSD

 

[Deleted member 38366]

If it can fire 4x C2 Mining Lasers + defensive Weapons, has sufficient Cargo and Internals - it's a keeper!

I'm so going to make that thing a heavy Mining Rig

 

[777Driver]

777 refers to the existence of a class 8 FSD

Yeah, referring to what was found during Beta - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/373106-8A-FSD-Huh

Class - 8A
Mass - 160.0 Tonnes
Optimal Mass - 3700 Tonnes
Max Fuel per Jump - 12.8 Tonnes
Cost - 162,586,490 cr

 

[Cmdr Tel]

I think the current Beluga outbreak some stations are having might be story related.

Nah! It's just mating season. Leave them alone we want the Narwhal.

 

[Lightspeed]

Both screenshots I have seen are definitely not the T9. The devs even stated it was a T-10 during live stream. I think it is fairly obvious it will just be a beefed up T9.

Personally I'd just like to see some extra utility mounts, an additional class 8 internal, and that Class 8 FSD discovered during beta, hopefully a Class 8 FSD will cope with all the extra tonnage on that beast.

Agreed. I expect at least a 30% increase in base speed over the T-9, two more medium hardpoints, less cargo capacity, but tougher hull.

If REALLY lucky, a C7 FSD.

^^^ Pure Guesstimation ^^^

Yeah, referring to what was found during Beta - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/373106-8A-FSD-Huh

Class - 8A
Mass - 160.0 Tonnes
Optimal Mass - 3700 Tonnes
Max Fuel per Jump - 12.8 Tonnes
Cost - 162,586,490 cr

Coriolis.io lists a 6A for the Type 9 as being:
Mass - 40 tonnes
Optimal Mass - 1440 tonnes
Max Fuel per Jump - 8.0 tonnes
Cost - 16,179,530 cr

So with such a big difference, a class 8 FSD would be for a MUCH bigger ship, maybe the Fleet Carrier?

Class 7 somewhere between for the Type 10 ? Coriolis gives optimal mass for a 7A as 2700 tonnes.

 

[SpaceScania]

Tbh I'd be surprised if they reduced the overall capacity. I am thinking more along the lines of a dedicated cargo slot, perhaps with anti corrosive tech built in.

I am really hoping that the T-10 is the answer for everyone who have been clamoring for a buff of the T-9’s cargo capacity. How many posts have we seen asking for another class-8 cargo slot to help the T-9 compete with the Cutter. I will be somewhat disappointed if the T-10 doesn’t carry more cargo than the T-9. Charge me triple the credits if you must, but please give us a ship that looks and feels like it was designed to carry cargo and indeed carries the most.

 

[Tadeus72]

Well it's called the Defender. I'm afraid we will still need a T-9 buff to get a good "pure" heavy hauler. Which isn't bad. The T9 needs a buff either way. It's pretty much the only ship in the game that seems to be made with a different design philosophy. Most ships in the game don't have to sacrifice much (or often nothing at all) for their specialization. The Type 9 sacrifices everything for cargo capacity that isn't even close to best in class. It makes no sense when you look at all the other ships.