General / Off-Topic (Theme) Parkitect General Discussion

0BobTheJanitor · May 23, 2016

It's games like these that remind me how much of a POS Unity is. Running a small park 300 people with not much scenery on a GTX760 and the game doesn't get 40 fps when zoomed out. My GPU may be old, but it's not that weak, considering the art style for the game. What can I blame the devs for? They don't control the renderering engine. Too many draw calls, what's the issue here? I know the game is in Early Access, but it can't run THIS poor, can it?

This is why I'm making my own game engine, one that actually utilizes all the power of a GPU. [mad]

joeybolufe · May 23, 2016

Yea even with my 980 I get about the same fps when zoomed out. Unity is such trash.

0BobTheJanitor · May 23, 2016

Kerbal, in the rocket silo where you have all the Kermans walking around, the game just tanks if I look at them. [knockout]

Helena · May 23, 2016

That's why it is not really clever to make RCT game with Unity...

Cities Skylines managed to do it pretty ok however! hmm.

cerealfruitcakes · May 23, 2016

Helena said:
That's why it is not really clever to make RCT game with Unity...

Cities Skylines managed to do it pretty ok however! hmm.

The devs of Cities Skylines made two previous city transportation games, Cities In Motion 1 & 2. Parkitect is being made by just a couple of people. They'll figure things out, hang in there guys. [up]

Periocus · May 23, 2016

Actually it is three people.

One programmer, one designer, one making sounds and music.

There are some issues, but i trust he will get it done. Though the scrawling, when the park is filled, is a bit annoying at the moment.
I wonder how he will solve the ferris wheel issue. Guests have to make 16 rounds and are sad then.
So i do not build a wheel at the moment.

What i also do like is that if jam-full trashcans, trash or vomit are done the rating does not go up right away, because the guest who "noticed" it does not know.

They have a devblod too:
http://devlog.themeparkitect.com/

cerealfruitcakes · May 23, 2016

couple = 2, I was close [tongue]

Periocus · May 23, 2016

Yes you were.[yesnod]

joeybolufe · May 23, 2016

cerealfruitcakes said:
Parkitect is being made by just a couple of people. They'll figure things out, hang in there guys. [up]

Yea I totally understand haha It just shows how bad the Unity engine is. It's nothing really against the devs of the game.

gregorburns · May 23, 2016

joeybolufe said:
Yea I totally understand haha It just shows how bad the Unity engine is. It's nothing really against the devs of the game.

Unity is not "bad" as such, it is more to do with the way it is marketed. A lot of people use Unity thinking they can just make any old game with no experience whatsoever in programming and because of this target audience, the way the engine has grown is in a direction towards those people, so it is difficult to make a game as complex as a theme park sim. I can see why small dev teams want to use it, and some great things can be done with it (Cities Skylines for example) but it has it's limitations.

0BobTheJanitor · May 23, 2016

gregorburns1 said:
Unity is not "bad" as such, it is more to do with the way it is marketed. A lot of people use Unity thinking they can just make any old game with no experience whatsoever in programming and because of this target audience, the way the engine has grown is in a direction towards those people, so it is difficult to make a game as complex as a theme park sim. I can see why small dev teams want to use it, and some great things can be done with it (Cities Skylines for example) but it has it's limitations.

It's both, bad, and it's marketed wrong. If in the hands of those who can modify the source code for their needs its good, but if you're doing that why not just make an engine yourself? Doesn't have the be complex, just abstract the graphics layer, implement some physics and component functionality, and modify it from there, you'll have more control. [yesnod]

If you don't do heavy modification or don't do something nonintensive it seems to just chug. Why give bare bones functionality if those functionalities are terrible?

Dalenotchip · May 23, 2016

Unity. Like any tool it's perfectly good for what it is made for. The minute you try to stretch it beyond it's means you get crap. (RCTW). If they Keep Parkitect within the scope of the engine it will be a good game, and so far it looks like they are.

Just like a Wrench. It's great to turn bolts. Makes a crappy hammer. Sure you might get the nail in, but it was a bad experience doing it.

DarkRider2k3 · May 28, 2016

Periocus said:
Actually it is three people.

I wonder how he will solve the ferris wheel issue. Guests have to make 16 rounds and are sad then.
So i do not build a wheel at the moment.

Didn't the old RCT games have this issue? I used to have to set them to 1 rotation just to keep peeps from getting super angry. "I WANT OFF THIS RIDE!!!"

Adri · Sep 5, 2016

Dalenotchip said:
Unity. Like any tool it's perfectly good for what it is made for. The minute you try to stretch it beyond it's means you get crap. (RCTW). If they Keep Parkitect within the scope of the engine it will be a good game, and so far it looks like they are.

Just like a Wrench. It's great to turn bolts. Makes a crappy hammer. Sure you might get the nail in, but it was a bad experience doing it.

Yeah, Parkitect is better with the Texel Raptor engine.

Joël · Sep 5, 2016

Adri said:
Yeah, Parkitect is better with the Texel Raptor engine.

Parkitect uses the Unity engine (which has been discussed some posts above this one).

Also, I find Parkitect a lovely game. [heart]

Periocus · Sep 5, 2016

The new warehouse - depot system is just awsome. Just tested it, because it has gone live today.

Also the change in the hauler system is a nice idea. You can really do a system of supply paths and backlot.
Really wish we will get that all in Planet Coaster too. Also a restroom and a training center where we have to send the entertainers.

Also noticed how nice it is when the guests stay in line when a ride is broken and if you don't repair it they will get sad.

Gysan · Sep 6, 2016

Periocus said:
The new warehouse - depot system is just awsome. Just tested it, because it has gone live today.

Also the change in the hauler system is a nice idea. You can really do a system of supply paths and backlot.
Really wish we will get that all in Planet Coaster too. Also a restroom and a training center where we have to send the entertainers.

Also noticed how nice it is when the guests stay in line when a ride is broken and if you don't repair it they will get sad.

That is so cool. Seems like Parcitect takes out the turns more than any of the new park simulations games in new innovative management gameplay. Especially the transports of goods into the park. [up]
Planet Coaster are yet to see how good the management gameplay will be. Right now it haven't flesh out anything new that an earlier instalment haven't already done.

SydVic · Sep 6, 2016

Gysan said:
That is so cool. Seems like Parcitect takes out the turns more than any of the new park simulations games in new innovative management gameplay. Especially the transports of goods into the park. [up]
Planet Coaster are yet to see how good the management gameplay will be. Right now it haven't flesh out anything new that an earlier instalment haven't already done.

Yes, I really swallowed my pride and bought the EA of parkitect. I've thought, that I would never buy an Early-Access game but it's such a charming little game and the management functions are really promising...so I really think it is worth supporting it [yesnod] I don't really play it much for now because it has no campaign (and I'm not the sandbox-guy

) but I'm really looking forward to the implementation of scenarios

SoapyIllusion · Nov 17, 2016

Anyone still playing this? How Do Management functions compare to Planet Coaster